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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4830 on: November 20, 2021, 07:26:25 PM »
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Did you realize this Cobert guy that is mentioned here often, him and his team have cracked the Zodiac case in California that goes back to the 60s.  The famous case has been cracked in such compelling fashion the cops have even admitted its "irrefutable" evidence.  I guess this guy named Poste they believe was the killer.
They have not cracked the Zodiac case.

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I believe that it's been solved, but the FBI is holding back info on the solution...basically to keep it going. The longer the public stays fixated on Zodiac, the better it is for the FBI.

Just like Hoffa. Except FBI has no idea about Hoffa (and Cooper).
Keep digging. FBI.  Hopefully not in the dredge spoils pile Cooper's in.

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Here's what went down: I got this story from a big developer in Dubai.

Cooper was ordered by Hoffa to do the skyjack, to replace money that was lost in the Teamsters pension fund.
When Cooper presented the money to Hoffa, he demanded a bigger cut than initially agreed upon.
Cooper was summarily dispatched into the Columbia, and some bundles thrown in with him.

In  1975, Hoffa found out the money he gave to the accountants was never put back into the pension fund, but was used for another round of development in Las Vegas without his knowledge. When Hoffa complained about this, he was dispatched by mob bosses and buried in a smellier place than Cooper.

The weird thing is, Cooper didn't seem to have planned this out very well. Cooper was kind of naive and inept when it came to his dealings with Hoffa, much like Carr said. It's amazing how Carr figured that out.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4831 on: November 21, 2021, 01:52:59 PM »
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Did you realize this Cobert guy that is mentioned here often, him and his team have cracked the Zodiac case in California that goes back to the 60s.  The famous case has been cracked in such compelling fashion the cops have even admitted its "irrefutable" evidence.  I guess this guy named Poste they believe was the killer.
They have not cracked the Zodiac case.

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Not even close. Problem is, just like with the Rackstraw garbage, people will see it and assume that it is true.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4832 on: November 22, 2021, 12:59:56 PM »
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Did you realize this Cobert guy that is mentioned here often, him and his team have cracked the Zodiac case in California that goes back to the 60s.  The famous case has been cracked in such compelling fashion the cops have even admitted its "irrefutable" evidence.  I guess this guy named Poste they believe was the killer.
They have not cracked the Zodiac case.

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Not even close. Problem is, just like with the Rackstraw garbage, people will see it and assume that it is true.
Officially no.  But they believe they have identified him.  He died in 2018.  I cant open your link.  A pop up comes up trying to get me to subscribe to the San Fram chronicle.  NO thanks.    There is some steam to this investigation and this Poste fella that died in 18.   

Back to DB Cooper, have any of you including Bruce or EU looked at Forrest Fenn as a possible suspect?  Do you realize who Forrest Fenn is?  There is a very good recent YouTube show on him.  I posted the link. 
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4833 on: November 22, 2021, 02:14:15 PM »
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Did you realize this Cobert guy that is mentioned here often, him and his team have cracked the Zodiac case in California that goes back to the 60s.  The famous case has been cracked in such compelling fashion the cops have even admitted its "irrefutable" evidence.  I guess this guy named Poste they believe was the killer.
They have not cracked the Zodiac case.

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Not even close. Problem is, just like with the Rackstraw garbage, people will see it and assume that it is true.
Officially no.  But they believe they have identified him.  He died in 2018.  I cant open your link.  A pop up comes up trying to get me to subscribe to the San Fram chronicle.  NO thanks.    There is some steam to this investigation and this Poste fella that died in 18.   

Back to DB Cooper, have any of you including Bruce or EU looked at Forrest Fenn as a possible suspect?  Do you realize who Forrest Fenn is?  There is a very good recent YouTube show on him.  I posted the link.

The Cold Case tema believes they have identified him just like they identified Rackstraw as Cooper. Law enforcement says otherwise. There is no good evidence that links Poste to the Zodiac killings, at least as far as I have seen.

Darren did one of his podcasts on Forrest Fenn. Interesting story, but not a good Cooper suspect in my opinion.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4834 on: November 22, 2021, 07:56:58 PM »
I skimmed and scanned the Internet with your encouragement and found a bit about Fenn:

1. Born in 1930. Hence, he was 41 in 1971.
2. Was a fighter pilot in Vietnam. Flew over 300 missions in less than one year.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4835 on: November 23, 2021, 12:15:23 PM »
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I skimmed and scanned the Internet with your encouragement and found a bit about Fenn:

1. Born in 1930. Hence, he was 41 in 1971.
2. Was a fighter pilot in Vietnam. Flew over 300 missions in less than one year.

Yes Bruce and he was the guy that planted that box with a million dollars worth of treasure.  It was found not long before his death a few years back. 
 

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« Reply #4836 on: November 23, 2021, 02:37:32 PM »
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I skimmed and scanned the Internet with your encouragement and found a bit about Fenn:

1. Born in 1930. Hence, he was 41 in 1971.
2. Was a fighter pilot in Vietnam. Flew over 300 missions in less than one year.

Yes Bruce and he was the guy that planted that box with a million dollars worth of treasure.  It was found not long before his death a few years back.

Any photos of Fenn? What Tactical Unit was Fenn attached to ? His years of service in VN ?
 

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« Reply #4837 on: November 23, 2021, 02:55:28 PM »
I couldn't find that info, G. But then I couldn't get past the Google log jam concerning his treasure hunt. 4 or 5 five guys died looking for it, and the cops were really pissed at Fenn for the whole shebang. One seeker had to be rescued twice from the same National Park, one month apart in time. The Park Service charged him for the second rescue, too.

As for tactical units, I suspect that he flew off a carrier. I don't really see a land-based fighter pilot making daily sorties. Could, though.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4838 on: November 24, 2021, 03:54:03 PM »
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I couldn't find that info, G. But then I couldn't get past the Google log jam concerning his treasure hunt. 4 or 5 five guys died looking for it, and the cops were really pissed at Fenn for the whole shebang. One seeker had to be rescued twice from the same National Park, one month apart in time. The Park Service charged him for the second rescue, too.

As for tactical units, I suspect that he flew off a carrier. I don't really see a land-based fighter pilot making daily sorties. Could, though.

There is a good recent YouTube show released within last 3 months at the very latest.  Maybe even more recent?  Its a guy whose name I forget doing a very detailed look at the comparisons.  He seems to think its possible that it could have been Fenn.  In 1971 I guess he was penniless.  Then in 72 somehow he comes up with the money to build a multi million dollar business.  And there is more than that obviously.  Another guy to look at and this guy loved myseries as the treasure hunt was the big thing.  There is still another active treasure hunt with many of the treasures still out there waiting  There is a book called the Secret.  And their are poems, clues to each of these buried precious gems.  One was in St Augustine FL and they were close but hit the ground with shovels and still have not found it to my knowledge.  One is in Manhattan.  Its a very interesting case.  Josh Gates has a special on it. On that show of his that EU and I believe you were on?  Expedition Unknown.  So that may be a  good source.  Josh even did one on the theft of the ruby slippers from the Wizard of Oz.  But back to Forrest Fenn.  Quite an interesting fella to say the least.  Id say he is more likely to  be Cooper than McCoy.  But that isnt saying much now I guess.  Happy Thanksgiving to all on this the 50th anniversary
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4839 on: November 25, 2021, 01:27:22 PM »
I love it when a random ranter on the Internet makes up his own suspect.
Today we have Jumper34 from 2019 putting his microscope on Najeeb E. Halaby.
He makes a case for it in a review of Najeeb's 1978 memoir.

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This guy was the head of the FAA, a CEO of a major airline, test pilot, and he parachuted a couple of times. He describes where he was when JFK was shot and when Pan Am 93 was hijacked in great detail. However, he fails to mention he was meeting with President Nixon on the day DB Cooper hijacked flight 305! This book is meant to be his alibi. It is a division. Najeeb mentions briefly that he started out after WWII with the Army Officer of Research and Intelligence, a combination of the OSS and Army Research and Analysis group. He was....a spy, circa 1946.

Halaby talks about his support for the supersonic jet program and how he was the main proponent of the program. The tie left behind by DB Cooper had a very rare type of titanium on it, the kind found in the SSJ program. Halaby was never questioned by the FBI regarding his meeting with Nixon the day of the HJ. Of course, this was the main purpose of my reading the book.

He conflicts himself on numerous occasions. In the beginning of the book he has disparaging words about President Johnson, but changes his tun later in the book about Johnson and his leadership. His dealings with Nixon are the same. he intimates that he can't stand him, yet he brings on a friend of Nixon's to be on the Board of Directors. His statements about Nixon and his staff contradict his actions.

His vacillating on his positions on Nixon are interesting, if you read into this from the perspective that Halaby had something to do with the hijacking. He was CEO of Pan Am during the hijacking and was "fired" exactly 4 months after the hijacking. He went on to form a business that sold airline security equipment and helped other countries come up to US standards in international airline travel.

In 1959, Robert Maheu (of Hughes Aircraft) was setting up King Hussein of Jordan with women in 1959. Of course, Hughes Aircraft is synonymous with CIA. Years later, this former spies daughter married King Hussein of Jordan. Isn't this an odd circle of events?

In response to Pan Am flight 93 being hijacked in Beirut on September 6, 1970, President Nixon signed anti-hijacking legislation on September 11, 1970. Now you know why September 11, 2001, the planes were hijacked.
 

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« Reply #4840 on: November 25, 2021, 04:46:47 PM »
I worked at Hughes Aircraft. The stories I heard from the Howard Hughes days were truly amazing. Even after Howard died the company was making lots of exotic things for the CIA, NSA and other spooky customers. I had enough clearances to see some of the really exotic stuff. No files on aliens or their tech though. I looked. I think you needed the special remote viewing clearance for that stuff. 😉

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« Reply #4841 on: November 25, 2021, 04:55:37 PM »
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I worked at Hughes Aircraft. The stories I heard from the Howard Hughes days were truly amazing. Even after Howard died the company was making lots of exotic things for the CIA, NSA and other spooky customers. I had enough clearances to see some of the really exotic stuff. No files on aliens or their tech though. I looked. I think you needed the special remote viewing clearance for that stuff. 😉

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so I guess you're part of the coverup ? :)

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4842 on: December 16, 2021, 01:15:45 PM »
This recent video by Dan Gryder, 'DB Cooper, Deep Family Secrets", released on the 13th of December, is very compelling in my opinion.  Mr Richard Floyd McCoy deserves another long long look.  I find Gryder to be very intelligent and articulate and he has presented perhaps the best case I have ever seen.  I know many of you will not agree and will actually hope to hell he is wrong.  But what if he is right?  I find the late FBI agent in charge, you know his name, I wont try to spell it, to be incompetent and I will never know how he made it to that position.  My only problem with them losing the cigarettes deliberately, is they did not know about DNA in the 70s.  But I do not know when they lost the cigarettes.  Gryder sure put his work in, you have to give it to him.
 

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« Reply #4843 on: December 16, 2021, 01:19:27 PM »
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This recent video by Dan Gryder, 'DB Cooper, Deep Family Secrets", released on the 13th of December, is very compelling in my opinion.  Mr Richard Floyd McCoy deserves another long long look.  I find Gryder to be very intelligent and articulate and he has presented perhaps the best case I have ever seen.  I know many of you will not agree and will actually hope to hell he is wrong.  But what if he is right?  I find the late FBI agent in charge, you know his name, I wont try to spell it, to be incompetent and I will never know how he made it to that position.  My only problem with them losing the cigarettes deliberately, is they did not know about DNA in the 70s.  But I do not know when they lost the cigarettes.  Gryder sure put his work in, you have to give it to him.
With all due respect, no one gets credit for hard work. Gryder may have put a lot of effort into his presentation, but it is inherently flawed. The evidence against McCoy being Cooper is substantial, and additionally, Gryder ignores the science in the case which is a fatal flaw.
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« Reply #4844 on: December 16, 2021, 01:25:43 PM »
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This recent video by Dan Gryder, 'DB Cooper, Deep Family Secrets", released on the 13th of December, is very compelling in my opinion.  Mr Richard Floyd McCoy deserves another long long look.  I find Gryder to be very intelligent and articulate and he has presented perhaps the best case I have ever seen.  I know many of you will not agree and will actually hope to hell he is wrong.  But what if he is right?  I find the late FBI agent in charge, you know his name, I wont try to spell it, to be incompetent and I will never know how he made it to that position.  My only problem with them losing the cigarettes deliberately, is they did not know about DNA in the 70s.  But I do not know when they lost the cigarettes.  Gryder sure put his work in, you have to give it to him.
With all due respect, Doc, no one gets credit for hard work. Gryder may have put a lot of effort into his presentation, but it is inherently flawed. The evidence against McCoy being Cooper is substantial, and additionally, Gryder ignores the science in the case which is a fatal flaw.
Just what is the evidence against him being Cooper?  The alibi for his location?  Not good enough