Author Topic: Suspects And Confessions (Read 1302394 times)

snowmman · « **Reply #4860 on:** December 19, 2021, 02:48:18 AM »

Karen McCoy's obit in 2020
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Bruce may find this part interesting
"She was indeed a warrior, a fierce fighter, and a survivor. She survived severe childhood abuse, making her empathetic to those in psychic pain."

Sounds like she was a positive contributor to society after Richard. Interesting job history.

Is this the Chante McCoy? She's an author.
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Karen's daughter is Chante Teresa McCoy. There is the Salt Lake City connection, so maybe yes? Chante Teresa McCoy is Salt Lake City, as is Chante McCoy the author.

Is this a case of a person who likes stories, weaving a story?

interestingly, Chante's middle name is misspelled on Richard's gravestone.
Oh well.
and why the heck would Richard's SSN be on his gravestone??

The gravestone has her birthday right. Oct 4 1966. So she's 55 years old this year

snowmman · « **Reply #4861 on:** December 19, 2021, 02:59:20 AM »

that little metal oval thing on his gravestone covers a picture of him in his uniform, from vietnam I guess.

attached

snowmman · « **Reply #4862 on:** December 19, 2021, 03:04:19 AM »

McCoy's death certificate. That "gunshot wound of chest" will always get you. "shot during apprehension by FBI" ...

DBfan57 · « **Reply #4863 on:** December 19, 2021, 06:54:17 AM »

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Richard McCoy is a worthy candidate for the DB Cooper list. After all, he did hijack a jet plane and got away with the moolah.

As for concerns about helping Karen McCoy escape federal prosecution, she seemed very capable of doing that on her own.

Now Chante and Rick, with the help of Dan Gryder, have opened a can of investigatory worms by their confession, even if they don't want to accept that fact. Asking questions about Karen McCoy and her relationship with the FBI seems legitimate.

Chante and Rick are now claiming their mother was an accomplice in two skyjackings. So, they need to explain how she avoided prosecution. Keeping quiet about Mommy for 50 years doesn't cut it. After all, Karen successfully sued Calame and Rhodes. Then became a Ph.D. Social Worker in Salt Lake City. Really? Her employing agency did not do a background check? What's the story here? Was the price of her freedom betraying her husband in 1974?

Further, how do Chante and Rick feel nowadays since Aunt Denise has changed her story at T-Day in 1971?

There's a stink that lingers over the McCoy family and it ain't going away.

Did anyon ever question the guy that escaped with McCoy from Lewisburg? I mean, they were close because they were on the run together and he likely asked Richard, " did you pull off the skyjacking on that fateful night of Thanksgivng Eve of 1971, the Cooper case?" Maybe McCoy gave him a straight answer or maybe he was evasive. I know people never believe convicts. But what would the guy have to gain by lying in this case? I wonder if McCoy told him either way if it was him or not? I wonder if he is still alive?

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #4864 on:** December 19, 2021, 05:52:04 PM »

The short answer is "Yes."

The longer answer to your question can be found in Calame and Rhodes' book. Melvin Walker was returned to prison, found religion, and became a preacher upon his release. It is my understanding that he aided Calame and Rhodes in the writing of their book. Whether McCoy confessed the Cooper hijacking to Walker is unknown publicly at this time, as far as I know.

snowmman · « **Reply #4865 on:** December 19, 2021, 07:55:30 PM »

Melvin Dale Walker

Born in Morley, Scott, Missouri, USA on 3 Feb 1939 to Alvin Morris "Baldy" Walker and Johanie M Nolen. Melvin Dale Walker passed away on 1 May 1997 in Houston, Harris Co., Texas.

Five feet eight inches tall, 174 pounds, with receding dark brown hair and blue eyes. Occupations: construction worker, laborer, salesman, trucker. Walker has engaged in gunfights with police officers to avoid arrest in the past.

The "D.B. Cooper: The Real McCoy" book puts his description in 1972 as (page 187-189)
"Melvin Dale Walker, age thirty-two, male Caucasian, five foot ten and 180 pounds. "

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2nd and 3rd pic attached apparently from post-prison life.

he was #327 on the FBI's 10 most wanted list (over time). Only on the list for three weeks before they caught him. At least one top ten listee was only on the list one day before apprehension (per You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ) I guess some were caught caught or removed before they got published.

Melvin Dale Walker #327 October 16, 1974 Three weeks

snowmman · « **Reply #4866 on:** December 19, 2021, 08:11:27 PM »

1974 Press Photo Melvin Dale Walker escorted to Norfolk federal building

Nice shirt (center)

DBfan57 · « **Reply #4867 on:** December 19, 2021, 09:01:02 PM »

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The short answer is "Yes."

The longer answer to your question can be found in Calame and Rhodes' book. Melvin Walker was returned to prison, found religion, and became a preacher upon his release. It is my understanding that he aided Calame and Rhodes in the writing of their book. Whether McCoy confessed the Cooper hijacking to Walker is unknown publicly at this time, as far as I know.

Thanks Bruce. No hard feelings. We all seek the truth and it’s very difficult in this case

377 · « **Reply #4868 on:** December 19, 2021, 10:08:08 PM »

So Chante is 55? Remarkable. I saw her recently and I’d have guessed much younger. Pretty and sharp. Losing her dad that way must have been very traumatic.

Besides the age issue arguing against McCoy being Cooper, I think McCoy’s concern about pingers (243.0 MHz locator beacons) distinguishes him from Cooper. McCoy was justifiably concerned about pingers being packed into the rigs supplied by the FBI. That’s why he brought his own rig. As a military pilot McCoy undoubtedly knew about pingers. During his Vietnam combat flying he may have heard a few on his UHF GUARD frequency. Cooper seemed totally unaware of the pinger risk. I see it as a strong argument against McCoy and Cooper being the same person.

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snowmman · « **Reply #4869 on:** December 19, 2021, 10:23:18 PM »

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So Chante is 55? Remarkable. I saw her recently and I’d have guessed much younger. Pretty and sharp. Losing her dad that way must have been very traumatic.

Chante apparently hiked the Pacific Crest trail in 2018. That's a big deal. (2650 miles) Good on her.
I suspect there were some good aspects to her dad that she inherited.

snowmman · « **Reply #4870 on:** December 19, 2021, 10:29:47 PM »

Here's the citation for McCoy's Distinguished Flying Cross. He also received Purple Heart and a Army Commendation Medal
It was 1968, so it was Lyndon B. Johnson who awarded it.

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Richard F. McCoy
AWARDS BY DATE OF ACTION:1 of 1

Distinguished Flying Cross
AWARDED FOR ACTIONS
DURING Vietnam War
Service: Army
GENERAL ORDERS:
Headquarters, 9th Infantry Division, General Orders No. 2816 (April 29, 1968)

CITATION:
The President of the United States of America, authorized by Act of Congress, July 2, 1926, takes pleasure in presenting the Distinguished Flying Cross to Warrant Officer One (WO-1) Richard F. McCoy (ASN: W-3155317), United States Army, for heroism while participating in aerial flight, as evidenced by voluntary actions above and beyond the call of duty in the Republic of Vietnam. Warrant Officer McCoy distinguished himself exceptionally valorous actions during the early morning hours of 8 November 1967, while serving as a helicopter pilot with the Air Cavalry Troop, 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment, in the air over a Vietnamese Popular Forces compound at Xa Duy Can, 7 miles northwest of Tanh Linh, Vietnam. Upon hearing that the compound was in the process of being overrun by a large Viet Cong force, Warrant Officer McCoy volunteered to fly his aircraft to the scene in support of the friendly forces, in spite of poor visibility due to thick ground fog and intermittent cloud layers, and a complete lack of tactical maps of the area. Flying by instrumentation and radio alone, Warrant Officer McCoy located the compound and came under automatic weapons and small arms fire. With the position of the compound marked by a flare and the firefight marked by tracer rounds, Warrant Officer McCoy began a series of firing passes, launching rockets directly into the Viet Cong positions until all his ammunition was expended. Due to his courageous flight and highly accurate fire, the enemy was completely routed, leaving 20 bodies behind. Warrant Officer McCoy's outstanding flying ability and devotion to duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his unit and the United States Army.

snowmman · « **Reply #4871 on:** December 19, 2021, 10:31:14 PM »

"Upon hearing that the compound was in the process of being overrun by a large Viet Cong force, Warrant Officer McCoy volunteered to fly his aircraft to the scene in support of the friendly forces, in spite of poor visibility due to thick ground fog and intermittent cloud layers, and a complete lack of tactical maps of the area. Flying by instrumentation and radio alone, Warrant Officer McCoy located the compound and came under automatic weapons and small arms fire. With the position of the compound marked by a flare and the firefight marked by tracer rounds, Warrant Officer McCoy began a series of firing passes, launching rockets directly into the Viet Cong positions until all his ammunition was expended. "

pretty ballsy. no maps. ground fog, intermittent clouds. Volunteers to fly in and kick ass.

snowmman · « **Reply #4872 on:** December 19, 2021, 10:48:05 PM »

Richard F. McCoy
U. S. Army Register, volume 2 1968
page 667
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McCoy Richard F
W-3155317
Basic Branch AV?
Temp Grade WO1
Temp DOR (DA/MO/YR) 14/02/67
Perm Grade WO1
Prom Elig Date 14/02/70
Basic Pay Entry Date 31/03/62
Component USAR
Curr Svc Agrmt 7
Civ Ed Level 7
Mil Ed Level 8
DOB 07/12/42 (DA/MO/YR)

Warrant Officer 1 (WO1) is the first and lowest Warrant Officer rank in the Unites States Army.
Warrant officers are considered the tactical and technical experts of the Army. WO1 is the base-level rank, and primarily support operations from team or detachment through a battalion.

History of the Army warrant officer program
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JAG · « **Reply #4873 on:** December 19, 2021, 10:56:37 PM »

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"Upon hearing that the compound was in the process of being overrun by a large Viet Cong force, Warrant Officer McCoy volunteered to fly his aircraft to the scene in support of the friendly forces, in spite of poor visibility due to thick ground fog and intermittent cloud layers, and a complete lack of tactical maps of the area. Flying by instrumentation and radio alone, Warrant Officer McCoy located the compound and came under automatic weapons and small arms fire. With the position of the compound marked by a flare and the firefight marked by tracer rounds, Warrant Officer McCoy began a series of firing passes, launching rockets directly into the Viet Cong positions until all his ammunition was expended. "

pretty ballsy. no maps. ground fog, intermittent clouds. Volunteers to fly in and kick ass.

Yes it was, very heroic, he was basically like Rambo in this event.

Robert99 · « **Reply #4874 on:** December 20, 2021, 01:38:36 AM »

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Richard F. McCoy
U. S. Army Register, volume 2 1968
page 667
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McCoy Richard F
W-3155317
Basic Branch AV?
Temp Grade WO1
Temp DOR (DA/MO/YR) 14/02/67
Perm Grade WO1
Prom Elig Date 14/02/70
Basic Pay Entry Date 31/03/62
Component USAR
Curr Svc Agrmt 7
Civ Ed Level 7
Mil Ed Level 8
DOB 07/12/42 (DA/MO/YR)

Warrant Officer 1 (WO1) is the first and lowest Warrant Officer rank in the Unites States Army.
Warrant officers are considered the tactical and technical experts of the Army. WO1 is the base-level rank, and primarily support operations from team or detachment through a battalion.

History of the Army warrant officer program
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The Army established the Warrant Officer program for Helicopter Pilots in the early 1950s and based it at Fort Rucker, AL. Upon completion of the helicopter training, the students were promoted to Warrant Officer 1. I happened to know some of the earliest graduates of that program. The people I knew were senior sergeants and WW2 veterans who were Army careerists when they entered the program.

The Army Warrant Officer helicopter pilot training program was somewhat along the lines of the USAF cadet pilot training program where students entered as cadets and graduated as Second Lieutenants.

Commissioned Officers also became helicopter pilots but retained their commissioned rank upon graduation. I believe they were trained at a base in Texas rather than Fort Rucker. I believe Army and other US government civilians received helicopter pilot training at the same Texas base.

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