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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on March 01, 2021, 02:20:44 PM »
I believe a drink is in order about now  :chr2:

Hold your fire, hold your fire...I need to reload  :rofl:
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on March 01, 2021, 02:17:49 PM »
I seriously doubt it took months to resolve. they didn't have a clue it was or could of been missing when the plane landed in Reno. 8 years go by and the stories begin.

If the emergency system was not on the plane it's pretty obvious they were wrong with the assumptions given in 1978. no documents about it missing two days later or after testing. that's critical. they noticed it missing among all the other placards? why didn't the other placards come off or why would it be on the wall vs the door where the other placards were?

 The door could of been open hiding it from Cooper but I don't see it in the video or the still. that was my one thing holding back from saying it might not of come from 305. if it becomes beyond a shadow of doubt, which appears to be close based on what is known then Hicks becomes questionable. something is wrong somewhere...

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DB Cooper / Re: General Questions About The Case
« Last post by georger on March 01, 2021, 02:05:26 PM »
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I remember someone stating (georger? Bruce?) that there were witnesses on the ground who reported seeing flames or something burning falling from the plane. Can someone refresh my memory on this please?

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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by EU on March 01, 2021, 02:00:30 PM »
Regarding what all of this means concerning 305 is another matter.

The FBI sat on the Hicks' find for months in order to verify that it came from 305--which they did. Now we're being asked to believe that they F'd this up and that someone overlooked that there actually wasn't a red handle to pull on 305 after looking into this very basic thing for months. I'm having a very hard time swallowing that especially considering that I have no reasonable explanation for how such a placard finds its way into the woods after separating from the interior cone of a 727 during flight to begin with.
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on March 01, 2021, 01:56:29 PM »
It's even worse in the cockpit today. so many things can go wrong if they are not followed to the T. confusion can happen with a lot of things turned off and on and not discovered until an accident occurs. design errors are found the hard way.
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on March 01, 2021, 01:49:52 PM »
The FAA and NTSB can't catch everything. sadly, new rules will apply after an accident. it was obvious in the 727 that crashed. the stew used the normal stair release and nothing happened. they discovered she didn't know about the emergency handle and nobody realized the normal stair control door would hide the function when left open. they can suggest, recommend and force rules. it depends on the problem.

They suggested having the door swing the opposite direction, never happened. proper training about the functions, probably was done. and better placards with better instructions. not sure if that happened either.
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by EU on March 01, 2021, 01:39:52 PM »
The Hicks' placard is clearly unique in terms of its wording and size. It does make sense that there would be a handle to pull like shown above. It makes sense to me if the cavity concealing the red handle is different than the two-hole version we're seeing. Otherwise I'm simply at a loss for how it all adds up.

These placards are approved by the FAA and are very clearly and specifically worded so as not to confuse people during an emergency. References to opening a door strikes me as very specific, plus the fact it simply says pull the handle after that. It doesn't add an extra instruction to break the plastic cover panel.
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on March 01, 2021, 01:36:32 PM »
It's very frustrating watching these video's taken inside the stairs. I find myself screaming at the video like a horror movie. they bypass the control box every single time. they have no problem shoving your face into the flight data recorder  :rofl:
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on March 01, 2021, 01:34:21 PM »
A guess would be the placard was placed above the panel with the two holes as sort of a step 2 operation. we see multiple placards on the main control box.

I have shown a picture in the past that possibly shows this placard above the small panel. the problem is it'as screenshot of a camera panning inside the stairwell. only a corner is captured. I will have to put it on Google drive to post. can't get it small enough without distorting the pic.
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on March 01, 2021, 01:26:36 PM »
As mentioned before. the panel with the holes in it has instructions as well. those could be for removing the panel and the plastic cover. not a lot of room for all the instructions.

The normal stair release box has 5-6 placards when it's relatively simple instructions. push down on the button and move forward and pull back. pretty simple and yet it's loaded with placards?
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