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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Chaucer on December 06, 2022, 08:49:16 PM »
I mean a transcription of all of the voice communications between the NWA ground personnel such as Al Lee and Paul Soderlind over the ARINC radio frequency until ~8:20 and the ARINC phone patch after ~8:20. We have the ARINC TTY up until 8:20 and nothing after. Obviously, the ARINC teletype was a very abbreviated summation of the actual comms. The full transcription of these comms exist (according the Larry Carr).

I think you'd agree that they would be invaluable.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Robert99 on December 06, 2022, 04:24:14 PM »
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I have seen the WSHM’s analysis.

That said, this is the ARINC TTY which is distinct from the ATC transcripts.

Either way, this demonstrates that there were no nefarious redactions in the ARINC TTY.

I agree with you that the transcription of the ARINC TTY would be an important find.

In your last sentence above, you actually mean the transcripts of the voice communications over the ARINC radio patch, correct?  This would include all communications over the ARINC radio link with the airliner and would include the communications that the ARINC personnel then summarized in their teletype transcripts.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Chaucer on December 04, 2022, 06:54:12 PM »
I have seen the WSHM’s analysis.

That said, this is the ARINC TTY which is distinct from the ATC transcripts.

Either way, this demonstrates that there were no nefarious redactions in the ARINC TTY.

I agree with you that the transcription of the ARINC TTY would be an important find.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Robert99 on December 04, 2022, 02:28:24 PM »
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During the weekend of Cooper Con, I had the distinct honor of being invited - along with some other Cooper researchers - to the residence of the grandson of Ralph Himmelsbach. He had inherited his grandfather's NORJACK files, and he felt they would be of more value to us than him.

There were many things of value in Himmelsbach's stash, but among them was the complete, intact, unredacted ARINC teletype from the night of the hijacking. I suspect that it is the original from the night of the hijacking. Regardless, it is a priceless piece of information.

Based on my analysis, the comparison of these ARINC teletype copies  with those previously released reveal NO redactions related to the Flight 305. Any inconsistencies can be explained by being communications not related to the Flight 305 hijacking. Thus, these complete, intact ARINC teletype do NOT indicate any attempt to conceal, cover up, or obfuscate on the part of the FBI, FAA, or NWA.

Here, in their entirety, are the complete ARINC teletype printouts from Ralph Himmelsbach's own files:

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I will have more interesting files forthcoming. Enjoy!

Chaucer, let me remind you once again that it was the WSHM digital group's analysis of the ARINC teletype transcripts that led them to conclude that some were missing. 

Further, what you have just posted does not include the transcripts of the radio communications over the ARINC radio patch and has nothing to do with the Seattle Air Traffic Control radio transcripts where I am claiming that there are 19 segments that were redacted.

Do you have a copy of the WSHM digital group's analysis of the ARINC teletype transcripts?  If not let me know, and I will contact them and see if they are willing to release it to you.  While I have a copy of this analysis, it is a WSHM work product and I would prefer to have their consent before passing it on to others. 

When you get a copy of it, you can argue directly with them and I will stay out of it until you, or someone comes up with a copy of the unredacted Seattle Air Traffic Control radio transcripts.  Then I will rejoin the fray.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Chaucer on December 04, 2022, 12:47:34 AM »
During the weekend of Cooper Con, I had the distinct honor of being invited - along with some other Cooper researchers - to the residence of the grandson of Ralph Himmelsbach. He had inherited his grandfather's NORJACK files, and he felt they would be of more value to us than him.

There were many things of value in Himmelsbach's stash, but among them was the complete, intact, unredacted ARINC teletype from the night of the hijacking. I suspect that it is the original from the night of the hijacking. Regardless, it is a priceless piece of information.

Based on my analysis, the comparison of these ARINC teletype copies  with those previously released reveal NO redactions related to the Flight 305. Any inconsistencies can be explained by being communications not related to the Flight 305 hijacking. Thus, these complete, intact ARINC teletype do NOT indicate any attempt to conceal, cover up, or obfuscate on the part of the FBI, FAA, or NWA.

Here, in their entirety, are the complete ARINC teletype printouts from Ralph Himmelsbach's own files:

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I will have more interesting files forthcoming. Enjoy!
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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by andrade1812 on December 02, 2022, 08:31:34 AM »
Petersen wasn't the only new suspect, Milton Vordahl was also connected to the particles. The big discussions are on the DZ and the Facebook group.
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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by RaoulDuke24 on December 01, 2022, 04:54:09 PM »
Revisiting the Cooper world after learning about the New Eric Ulis suspect. Was surprised there wasn't much chatter here about it. And it seems Eric doesn't post here much anymore(?)

What are everyone's thoughts on Vince Petersen? My takeaways are as follows:

1. He is unique in the sense that he is really the first suspect to actually be connected to any physical evidence.

2. I'd like to see a photo of him taken closer to the time of the hijacking. I've seen 2 photos --- one taken 12 years before the hijacking and one taken 20+ years after. Not sure what the deal is with that.

3. History of smoking and drinking?

4. Did he have a criminal mind? Was he the type of guy that would do something like this?

5. Eric said the former supervisor named Vince and only Vince as the guy to look into among the 8 who worked in that department. Did Eric look into the other 7 guys as well?

6. I tried to find an obituary of this guy but had no luck. Anyone else?

For those of you who were at CooperCon, what was the general reaction/response to Eric's unveiling of this new suspect?
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by snowmman on November 29, 2022, 12:23:03 AM »
congrats Bruce!
You're doing the exact right thing getting rid of your 14 years of notes.

"Light is Right"

I have a friend who likes to say "Nothing weighs nothing" when pondering what to carry and what to leave behind.

Move fast, move light!
Good luck!
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Unsurelock on November 28, 2022, 10:52:48 PM »
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Big News - I'm Retiring

Yup, after CC22 next week I will officially retire as Mayor of Cooperville. I want to live a simpler life and one more closely connected to nature. My reasons for coming to Washington 32 years ago have concluded, so I will be leaving the Evergreen State and going into the big unknown. Some destinations are known in the short term. On November 22 I will be returning to NY to finish closing out my mother's house and selling it. Closing on the house is expected to take place around February 1, 2023, and at that point I will slide into my pick-up and drive to Key West to go for a swim in the warmest ocean water I can find. I'm also thinking of parking in long-term at Miami International and heading to Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands for a week or two.

After that, I will head back to Eatonville to finish cleaning-out all my stuff from my rental RV on a buddy's six acres. After that, I don't know - the desert? French Polynesia? Santa Fe? Buy a boat and sail the ocean blue?

As a result of these life changes, I will be traveling light - very light. Hence, I cannot and will not take my Cooper stuff with me. I have 14 years worth of notes, interviews, and investigations. Do any of you want it? Also, I will be giving away all the Cooper references materials and books I have accumulated since 2008. You want any? Galen has got dibs on my copy of Himms' NORJAK, GG's Skyjack, and HAHAHA. Other than that, it's all up for grabs and I'll be bringing it down to Vancouver next week. First come, first serve.

Lastly, I will always continue to answer questions from those who call, chat on podcasts, and sell my books - DB Cooper and the FBI, 3rd Edition.

So, adios my friends. Love you all.

Bruce,

Thanks for all of your positivity and cheer through all of the sifting, sorting and debating. You're one of the few who seem incapable of turning troll. Like Bruce Banner without the rage monster. Wish you all of the best. Enjoy your retirement, amigo.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by nickyb233 on November 28, 2022, 07:11:35 PM »
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The Grey Cup happened the Sunday after the hijacking in Victoria, B.C. During the pregame activities a man wearing what appears to be a suit parachutes onto the field. Wonder if he was ever checked out? I remember the Cooper letters that were probably fake saying that he enjoyed the Grey Cup.

I've only seen the halftime show that had jumpers parachute down on to the field. Do you have footage of the pregame?
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