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DB Cooper / Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Last post by DBfan57 on Today at 07:44:46 PM »
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...that "only in French" comic book about Dan Cooper...

You've mentioned that a few times in the last few days, and it has been pointed out that Flyjack has determined that the comic was printed in as many as 16 languages, including 2 variants of Spanish, Spain's and Mexico's. But not in English.

I would think the Canadian search would be we most relevant?  Shutter answered me on the subject also.  I was not aware of the Spanish. Yikes, he did mention Mexico City didn’t he.  Imagine how many comic book stores are there!  I think that would be a wild goose chase.  There are some that believe “there are no such thing as coincidences “.  I’m sure you have heard that,  I do not think the comic is irrelevant
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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by EU on Today at 07:44:16 PM »
A word to anyone who wants to challenge me regarding the Western Flight Path in an arrogant and condescending manner...put up or shut up.

Again, let's have a debate like that LIVE during a podcast or Facebook LIVE event or something else like it where things can be responded to in real time and a more comprehensive answer can be forthcoming.

Otherwise, simply avoid making pronouncements like "Wrong." At a minimum if you're going to do that, know what the F you're talking about.

Beyond that I welcome and enjoy a collegial discussion and my theories being challenged. It's just tiring to be lectured to.
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DB Cooper / Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Last post by DBfan57 on Today at 07:38:34 PM »
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I don't think anyone has made a travel for that reason...you might want to look for a comic book store to try and get some answers..

I may search in Quebec, but not knowing French might make it tough,  But I really think it’s worth looking in to and I’m surprised a bigger deal was not made of it back then by FBI.   Thanks
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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by EU on Today at 07:35:35 PM »
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If the airliner had been tracking down the centerline of V-23 at the time Cooper jumped, all Rataczak would have to say to whoever he was talking to on the radio, "Cooper jumped, we are inbound on radial so-and-so of the so-and-so VORTAC, and so-many DME miles from the station."

Rataczak's "mark your maps" remark supports the belief that the airliner was on the WFP and didn't know its exact position when Cooper jumped.
That's an assumption of yours with no concrete evidence to support it.

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ATC simply made certain other aircraft stayed out of the way and directed the F-106's as well as the T-33.
The F-106s were essentially remotely flown via computer. The pilots did little except takeoff and land.

"A datalink with NORAD's SAGE system meant that radio silence could be maintained throughout the intercept, while an autopilot allowed the ground controllers to "fly" the aircraft during the final approach to the target. A Tactical Situation Display (TSD) between the pilot's feet showed a moving map of the route across the ground during the intercept."

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Moreover, I'm dubious that a civilian ATC such as Ammerman would have the authority to order headings and altitude for a military aircraft. Certainly, civilian and military ATC would work together, but I'm not convinced a civilian like Ammerman could actually tell the military aircraft what to do. Could be wrong about that, but I'd like to see confirmation.

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However, as is not uncommon, Scott doglegged the portion that went from Maylay to either Canby or Eugene (I'm not certain).
If you have evidence of this, I'd love to see it.

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This had the benefit of offering a more direct path south that largely avoided the major population centers of downtown Vancouver and downtown Portland.
First, the 305 was never over concentrated population centers while Cooper was on board. Second, on the off chance Cooper left the bomb on board to detonate, 305 was never over Vancouver and routed along I-5 which obviously would not be populated. Any course change like the one you suggest is unnecessary.

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Importantly, Ammerman told me that once the T-33 pulled in behind 305 ( which appears to be at a point near Ridgefield)
Wrong. The T-33 pilot says that he was directed toward Lake Oswego, then turned south three miles behind 305 which means the T-33 intercepted 305 near Lake Oswego and not Ridgefield. (Norjak: The Investigation of D.B. Cooper, Himmelsbach, p. 46-47)
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Therefore, it suggests that 305 was not flying all over the place in and around Vancouver, PDX and Portland as depicted on the FBI Flight Path map.
See above.

You really need to learn how to communicate civilly.

I will not bother addressing every point because I don't feel like it. That said, much of what I asserted came from Ammerman himself. Whether you want to believe he was directing military aircraft or not is irrelevant. The fact is, he did.

Also, regardless of what Himmelsbach stated in his book, according to Ammerman the T-33 was directed north over Sauvie Island then in behind 305 as I stated northwest of PDX. Again, this is according to Ammerman.
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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by Chaucer on Today at 07:14:01 PM »
He would also likely have 25lbs of money tied to him. If he landed in the Columbia that night, his survival would be nearly impossible.
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on Today at 06:49:48 PM »
Should be visible now?
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on Today at 06:42:32 PM »
Ok, I know what the deal is....fixing..
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by haggarknew on Today at 06:41:47 PM »
Nope although it does say "one hidden"
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on Today at 06:36:09 PM »
I see it on...you guys can't? is my name showing in the bottom left on the main page?
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by haggarknew on Today at 06:35:20 PM »

 
I  realize that Georger
doesn't  need me to defend him. That being said, I take offense at the statement claiming Georger has contributed little to nothing to this forum (or case). Although I understand he can be abrasive at times (I could be under stating this lol) I, for one, very much appreciate his contributions! Defending the actual FACTS is just one of his many contributions, in my humble opinion.
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