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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by georger on Today at 12:07:02 AM »
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If Sheridan matches to 1%, That still leaves a ton of people who would also test positive. Odds would still be a false positive.

If he was a match to 1%, I doubt the FBI would be releasing anything that showed that, regardless of who asked for it.

How could there be a 1% match? Match to what? PLEASE EXPLAIN!!

Georger, I will readily admit that I know little to nothing about DNA and any of the terms being thrown around here. It's simply not my thing, which is why I stay out of this conversation for the most part. I was simply quoting someone else that said "1%". The point that I was trying to make is this: We have always been told that the DNA that they have (if it's even Cooper's) can only eliminate someone. So if they had a comparison that could not eliminate someone, I doubt very seriously they would release that info on a FOIA request. That's just my opinion.

FBI 21625 lab report indicates a standard codis test was done which returned a partial profile on 9 loci of some value, enough to exclude but not enough to match. Kit used was the AmpFSTR Profiler Plus PCR Amplification Kit (PE Applied Biosystems, Foster City, CA) - a 2001 multiplex PCR reaction kit designed to amplify nine tetrameric repeat loci on nine separate chromosomes plus a homologous region of the Amelogenin gene on the X and Y chromosomes which indicates sex. Manual for kit is still available   You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login › sfs › cms_040971

FBI 21625 ends with: No other dna examinations were conducted.  Which implies no Mitochondrial examination was done, which is interesting given the fact many have claimed the nuclear dna specimen(s) were 'degraded'? Some labs would move on to a Mitochondrial test if the specimens are too degraded to profile full codis nuclear results. In addition it says two specimens (swabs?) from two items were combined for analysis, a Q40 and a Q41.

From the information to date, I dont see there are grounds for talking about 'matches' of any kind. Exclusion perhaps, but not 'matches'. My stance is very conservative. 

let me attach the file...
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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by Parrotheadvol on April 13, 2021, 11:41:33 PM »
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If Sheridan matches to 1%, That still leaves a ton of people who would also test positive. Odds would still be a false positive.

If he was a match to 1%, I doubt the FBI would be releasing anything that showed that, regardless of who asked for it.

How could there be a 1% match? Match to what? PLEASE EXPLAIN!!

Georger, I will readily admit that I know little to nothing about DNA and any of the terms being thrown around here. It's simply not my thing, which is why I stay out of this conversation for the most part. I was simply quoting someone else that said "1%". The point that I was trying to make is this: We have always been told that the DNA that they have (if it's even Cooper's) can only eliminate someone. So if they had a comparison that could not eliminate someone, I doubt very seriously they would release that info on a FOIA request. That's just my opinion.
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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by georger on April 13, 2021, 11:28:34 PM »
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If Sheridan matches to 1%, That still leaves a ton of people who would also test positive. Odds would still be a false positive.

If he was a match to 1%, I doubt the FBI would be releasing anything that showed that, regardless of who asked for it.

How could there be a 1% match? Match to what? PLEASE EXPLAIN!!
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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by georger on April 13, 2021, 11:24:47 PM »
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If Sheridan matches to 1%, That still leaves a ton of people who would also test positive. Odds would still be a false positive.

Not sure what you mean?  Given the nature of the data the FBI has, the FBI has said many times the data can only EXCLUDE. There cant be any MATCHES let alone a "match" to 1% with anyone. ?

Sheridan can only be EXCLUDED or not, nothing more. The FBI does NOT have a full codis profile to begin with! There can be no "matches" to anything or anyone!

I wish you people would get this straight.  ;)

 
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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by Parrotheadvol on April 13, 2021, 10:42:29 PM »
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If Sheridan matches to 1%, That still leaves a ton of people who would also test positive. Odds would still be a false positive.

If he was a match to 1%, I doubt the FBI would be releasing anything that showed that, regardless of who asked for it.
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by georger on April 13, 2021, 03:51:43 PM »
Part 52 LAB REPORTS INCLUDING DNA: pages: 21601-08, 21615-17, 21624-25 dna, 21728-29, 21755-56, 21868-69, 

These are the pages people are starting to post including FJ ... these pages are merely clerical reports that may not contain hard information.
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by georger on April 13, 2021, 03:36:43 PM »
Why are Fortune Seekers attracted to crime stories and crime mysteries ? Here's one explanation -

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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Chaucer on April 13, 2021, 11:35:53 AM »


They are certainly very, very similar. I'd suggest that any differences are caused by the transferring of images into the newspaper format.
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DB Cooper / Re: CooperCon 2021
« Last post by DBfan57 on April 13, 2021, 05:01:23 AM »
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CooperCon 2021 UPDATE:

Location: Kiggins Theatre, Vancouver, WA

Dates: Friday, November 19, 2021 - Sunday, November 21, 2021

Schedule (Overview):

Not sure where Mucklow  lives?  I know Shafner is in S Carolina somewhere no doubt with a new last name?  If Tina does not live close, its going to cost them money to fly there, money for a hotel, and really, its something they have tried to avoid over the years.  So getting them to come is a stretch.  Dont you think?  It would sure help if there were funds available to offer them the cost of the flight and hotel.  That way they might be motivated?  Just a thought.  Would it be worth the investment to get one of the two main stewardess's present that "knew him"?  They are after all the star witness's in this case.  The only two that have a  snowball in hell's chance of identifying his voice lets say?  The cigarettes are gone forever.  Stupid beyond words.   So I believe that Mucklow is the key to this entire thing.  Still alive and healthy as far as I know?

>>> Friday, November 19th, Evening Social at Portland, OR location yet to be determined.
>>> Saturday, November 20th, Conference from 10a - 4p at Kiggins. Evening Social at Vancouver, WA location yet to be determined.
>>> Sunday, November 21st, Conference from 10a - 4p at Kiggins. Evening Social at location yet to be determined.

Confirmed Guests and Speakers as of today:

Brian Ingram
Catherine Scott (Capt. Scott's daughter)
Mary Jean Fryar (former FBI)
Tom Kaye
Bruce Smith
Mark Meltzer (377)
Vern Jones
Eric Ulis
Darren Schaefer (Master of Ceremonies)

-My plan is to reach out to several other people who have a connection to the case. I'll post updates as required.
-Also, I'll be creating a website for CC21 which will be LIVE soon.
-Additionally I'm planning on a conference that has plenty of panel discussions about several topics while actively engaging the attendees.
-There will be some giveaways and fun activities too.
-I'm also working to have tables set-up featuring items from local businesses.
-Finally, I will have T-shirts available with the CC21 logo (below).

Feel free to post ideas or thoughts.
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DB Cooper / Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Last post by DBfan57 on April 13, 2021, 04:52:54 AM »
I am no money expert, so here is a question.  Lets say Cooper is still out there, in his 90's and has some of the money put away in a safe, dry place. Not sure if the money was in pristine condition when they gave it to him?  You know when you go to an ATM and get "new money"?  If that money was in similar condition, now after 50 years would it look the same as the day he stole it?  IE, you know how old newspaper's start to turn yellowish?  The paper starts to show its age?  Would this money do that or not?  Would it be the same as the day he stole it if he took very good care of it?  And like others, I am not buying into that theory put out by the so called money expert that it would have shown up.  Being all in $20s and if he spread it out it could certainly have slipped through the cracks. 
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