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DB Cooper / Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
« Last post by georger on May 15, 2022, 02:31:18 PM »
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    How about Georger?

Only the FBI can explain what they have and the significance of it - Georger tried and failed to set the stage for this years ago.

The problem for the Cooper case now is a total lack of credibility ... on all fronts. Gridlock of competing interests!

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DB Cooper / Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
« Last post by haggarknew on May 15, 2022, 01:59:31 AM »
    How about Georger?
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by georger on May 14, 2022, 11:29:56 PM »
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I figured I would post my RAW notes from Part 70.  I am a total amateur/hack, whatever you want to call it, but this is me skimming/scanning through Part 70 and just taking notes based on topics that I have read here on the forum and elsewhere.  It isn't some comprehensive thing, but if it happens to peak the interest of someone more knowledgeable or someone new to the case....then great, better than dying on my laptop -- I can't even explain why I do this lol -- CHEERS !

Part 70:
- Page 13, Cossey has not provided the serial numbers of the parachutes. (9/5/72)
- Page 51, description of the paper bag that Cooper was carrying from the bathroom.
- Page 75, Cossy describing the parachutes.
- Page 85, Interview with a parachutist from Elsinore, trying to determine if he is the man who spoke to one
of the managers about jumping out of an air plane.
- Page 94, 95, more about an individual who was at Elsinore asking about jumping from a 727.
- Page 147, some parachuting club put on a sky diving show where at the end 3 men jumped from a 727 at
20,000 feet.
- Page 163, FBI lab request for studying money and separating to determine exact amount.
- Page 168, lab result stating approximatley $5800.
- Page 309, memo describing how Seattle First National Bank packed and banded the money.  Money was put in
packets of $2000 each and banded with bands labeled as Seatle First National Bank, Federal Reserve or bands
of other banks.  Similar information on page 317.
- Page 322,323, discussion of a VOR transmitter and receiving device as a possibility that the hijacker could
have used to locate a specific area on the ground to jump over.
- Page 340, Remarks about McCoy as suspect July 1980.  It's kind of like the FBI is circling back from 1972
for some reason.

page 309 how the money given to Cooper was prepared.  This page is ambiguous as hell. Paper bank bands from Sea First, Fed Reserve, or "quite possibly" bands from other banks were used ......... but NO IDENTIFYING MARKS WERE ON THESE BANDS! dUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! 

This kind of crap is why people give up on the Cooper case and everyone in it!

Have a NICE DAYEEEEEEEEE.

Ckret was wrong and a  liar, the same for Georger, the same for Grandma Moses .............

No paper straps were seen because all paper straps had dissolved. All asteroid impact sphericals are a lie - it never happened! 
 

Lol, yes I read it the same way -- it was unclear and confusing.

FBI agents as a rule, dont have time to work at banks and do banking  much less type out instructions to others and banking procedures .... so who was the banking expert behind this piece of expertise! ?  I hope it was none other than Himmelsbach but who knows. Obviously somebody talked to somebody who talked to somebody who talked to somebody ... the source for this expert testimony in the Cooper case. Conflicts with everything Ckret said years later, based on interviews he did. Oh well.     
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by JAG on May 14, 2022, 08:22:14 PM »
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I figured I would post my RAW notes from Part 70.  I am a total amateur/hack, whatever you want to call it, but this is me skimming/scanning through Part 70 and just taking notes based on topics that I have read here on the forum and elsewhere.  It isn't some comprehensive thing, but if it happens to peak the interest of someone more knowledgeable or someone new to the case....then great, better than dying on my laptop -- I can't even explain why I do this lol -- CHEERS !

Part 70:
- Page 13, Cossey has not provided the serial numbers of the parachutes. (9/5/72)
- Page 51, description of the paper bag that Cooper was carrying from the bathroom.
- Page 75, Cossy describing the parachutes.
- Page 85, Interview with a parachutist from Elsinore, trying to determine if he is the man who spoke to one
of the managers about jumping out of an air plane.
- Page 94, 95, more about an individual who was at Elsinore asking about jumping from a 727.
- Page 147, some parachuting club put on a sky diving show where at the end 3 men jumped from a 727 at
20,000 feet.
- Page 163, FBI lab request for studying money and separating to determine exact amount.
- Page 168, lab result stating approximatley $5800.
- Page 309, memo describing how Seattle First National Bank packed and banded the money.  Money was put in
packets of $2000 each and banded with bands labeled as Seatle First National Bank, Federal Reserve or bands
of other banks.  Similar information on page 317.
- Page 322,323, discussion of a VOR transmitter and receiving device as a possibility that the hijacker could
have used to locate a specific area on the ground to jump over.
- Page 340, Remarks about McCoy as suspect July 1980.  It's kind of like the FBI is circling back from 1972
for some reason.

page 309 how the money given to Cooper was prepared.  This page is ambiguous as hell. Paper bank bands from Sea First, Fed Reserve, or "quite possibly" bands from other banks were used ......... but NO IDENTIFYING MARKS WERE ON THESE BANDS! dUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! 

This kind of crap is why people give up on the Cooper case and everyone in it!

Have a NICE DAYEEEEEEEEE.

Ckret was wrong and a  liar, the same for Georger, the same for Grandma Moses .............

No paper straps were seen because all paper straps had dissolved. All asteroid impact sphericals are a lie - it never happened! 
 

Lol, yes I read it the same way -- it was unclear and confusing.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by georger on May 14, 2022, 05:24:34 PM »
more of pseudo morphism non gender specific FBI files .... related to money ................. maybe ........... maybe not! Could indicate some psycho-social conditioning endemic to FBI 302 writers of the era ?  Only Bruce Smith knows! Schedule a seance with Bruce soooooooooooon.     
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by georger on May 14, 2022, 05:23:04 PM »
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I figured I would post my RAW notes from Part 70.  I am a total amateur/hack, whatever you want to call it, but this is me skimming/scanning through Part 70 and just taking notes based on topics that I have read here on the forum and elsewhere.  It isn't some comprehensive thing, but if it happens to peak the interest of someone more knowledgeable or someone new to the case....then great, better than dying on my laptop -- I can't even explain why I do this lol -- CHEERS !

Part 70:
- Page 13, Cossey has not provided the serial numbers of the parachutes. (9/5/72)
- Page 51, description of the paper bag that Cooper was carrying from the bathroom.
- Page 75, Cossy describing the parachutes.
- Page 85, Interview with a parachutist from Elsinore, trying to determine if he is the man who spoke to one
of the managers about jumping out of an air plane.
- Page 94, 95, more about an individual who was at Elsinore asking about jumping from a 727.
- Page 147, some parachuting club put on a sky diving show where at the end 3 men jumped from a 727 at
20,000 feet.
- Page 163, FBI lab request for studying money and separating to determine exact amount.
- Page 168, lab result stating approximatley $5800.
- Page 309, memo describing how Seattle First National Bank packed and banded the money.  Money was put in
packets of $2000 each and banded with bands labeled as Seatle First National Bank, Federal Reserve or bands
of other banks.  Similar information on page 317.
- Page 322,323, discussion of a VOR transmitter and receiving device as a possibility that the hijacker could
have used to locate a specific area on the ground to jump over.
- Page 340, Remarks about McCoy as suspect July 1980.  It's kind of like the FBI is circling back from 1972
for some reason.

page 309 how the money given to Cooper was prepared.  This page is ambiguous as hell. Paper bank bands from Sea First, Fed Reserve, or "quite possibly" bands from other banks were used ......... but NO IDENTIFYING MARKS WERE ON THESE BANDS! dUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! 

This kind of crap is why people give up on the Cooper case and everyone in it!

Have a NICE DAYEEEEEEEEE.

Ckret was wrong and a  liar, the same for Georger, the same for Grandma Moses .............

No paper straps were seen because all paper straps had dissolved. All asteroid impact sphericals are a lie - it never happened! 
   
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DB Cooper / Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
« Last post by JAG on May 14, 2022, 12:19:18 AM »
Hey Darren, really enjoy your podcasts, I know you are winding it down and moving on to The Book of Darren.  But-- have you ever considered getting a DNA expert on to discuss the Cooper case?  Thanks !
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by JAG on May 14, 2022, 12:01:30 AM »
I figured I would post my RAW notes from Part 70.  I am a total amateur/hack, whatever you want to call it, but this is me skimming/scanning through Part 70 and just taking notes based on topics that I have read here on the forum and elsewhere.  It isn't some comprehensive thing, but if it happens to peak the interest of someone more knowledgeable or someone new to the case....then great, better than dying on my laptop -- I can't even explain why I do this lol -- CHEERS !

Part 70:
- Page 13, Cossey has not provided the serial numbers of the parachutes. (9/5/72)
- Page 51, description of the paper bag that Cooper was carrying from the bathroom.
- Page 75, Cossy describing the parachutes.
- Page 85, Interview with a parachutist from Elsinore, trying to determine if he is the man who spoke to one
of the managers about jumping out of an air plane.
- Page 94, 95, more about an individual who was at Elsinore asking about jumping from a 727.
- Page 147, some parachuting club put on a sky diving show where at the end 3 men jumped from a 727 at
20,000 feet.
- Page 163, FBI lab request for studying money and separating to determine exact amount.
- Page 168, lab result stating approximatley $5800.
- Page 309, memo describing how Seattle First National Bank packed and banded the money.  Money was put in
packets of $2000 each and banded with bands labeled as Seatle First National Bank, Federal Reserve or bands
of other banks.  Similar information on page 317.
- Page 322,323, discussion of a VOR transmitter and receiving device as a possibility that the hijacker could
have used to locate a specific area on the ground to jump over.
- Page 340, Remarks about McCoy as suspect July 1980.  It's kind of like the FBI is circling back from 1972
for some reason.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by JAG on May 13, 2022, 11:33:27 PM »
Scanning through Part 70 of the FBI, one interesting note, and as with many anecdotes in these 302s, you get a page or two of something and then it dies and you don't see the completion of the reports so to speak.  But for me, this is the first time I came across something where the FBI states they are tracking someone they believe is the hijacker.  Specifically, the are tracking the redacted individual to London Heathrow Airport where they think he is there to retrieve the ransom money.  This is August 1980 timeframe, so it is post Tena Bar.  So even though there are a lot of statements about "the hijacker dying when he jumped" during this time frame, here is the FBI thinking they have him flying to London ?

Anyway, clearly this was a nothingburger and lead to a dead end, but I thought it was interesting none the less to throw out there to the vortex....
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Kermit on May 13, 2022, 09:28:13 PM »
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     I am going to put you on the spot Kermit, which book was your favorite? I would like to hear more about the book written by the local author.      For that matter I would love to hear more about the locals and the local scene that was happening around that area during the time of the hijacking. I think it might be somewhat related. If you don't feel like discussing it here maybe some day we could discuss it over a plate (bucket?) of oysters. I have always wanted to try fresh raw oysters but I live in Ohio lol. Kinda a bucket list type of thing.

Would love to hear your take on the same question sir :)

I have read 9 cooper books and am always looking for more good ones. Hoping for a book by Nicky b, flyjack from the old forum, george

Max Gunthers book ! Read it ! “ What really Happened ? “. Max Gunther was no amateur! He was very successful and wrote 26 books ! He just might have been contacted by the real Dan Cooper ! I loved this book and it’s top 5 for me . Congratulations on reading 9 of D B Cooper related books !
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