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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by andrade1812 on December 02, 2022, 08:31:34 AM »
Petersen wasn't the only new suspect, Milton Vordahl was also connected to the particles. The big discussions are on the DZ and the Facebook group.
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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by RaoulDuke24 on December 01, 2022, 04:54:09 PM »
Revisiting the Cooper world after learning about the New Eric Ulis suspect. Was surprised there wasn't much chatter here about it. And it seems Eric doesn't post here much anymore(?)

What are everyone's thoughts on Vince Petersen? My takeaways are as follows:

1. He is unique in the sense that he is really the first suspect to actually be connected to any physical evidence.

2. I'd like to see a photo of him taken closer to the time of the hijacking. I've seen 2 photos --- one taken 12 years before the hijacking and one taken 20+ years after. Not sure what the deal is with that.

3. History of smoking and drinking?

4. Did he have a criminal mind? Was he the type of guy that would do something like this?

5. Eric said the former supervisor named Vince and only Vince as the guy to look into among the 8 who worked in that department. Did Eric look into the other 7 guys as well?

6. I tried to find an obituary of this guy but had no luck. Anyone else?

For those of you who were at CooperCon, what was the general reaction/response to Eric's unveiling of this new suspect?
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by snowmman on November 29, 2022, 12:23:03 AM »
congrats Bruce!
You're doing the exact right thing getting rid of your 14 years of notes.

"Light is Right"

I have a friend who likes to say "Nothing weighs nothing" when pondering what to carry and what to leave behind.

Move fast, move light!
Good luck!
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Unsurelock on November 28, 2022, 10:52:48 PM »
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Big News - I'm Retiring

Yup, after CC22 next week I will officially retire as Mayor of Cooperville. I want to live a simpler life and one more closely connected to nature. My reasons for coming to Washington 32 years ago have concluded, so I will be leaving the Evergreen State and going into the big unknown. Some destinations are known in the short term. On November 22 I will be returning to NY to finish closing out my mother's house and selling it. Closing on the house is expected to take place around February 1, 2023, and at that point I will slide into my pick-up and drive to Key West to go for a swim in the warmest ocean water I can find. I'm also thinking of parking in long-term at Miami International and heading to Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands for a week or two.

After that, I will head back to Eatonville to finish cleaning-out all my stuff from my rental RV on a buddy's six acres. After that, I don't know - the desert? French Polynesia? Santa Fe? Buy a boat and sail the ocean blue?

As a result of these life changes, I will be traveling light - very light. Hence, I cannot and will not take my Cooper stuff with me. I have 14 years worth of notes, interviews, and investigations. Do any of you want it? Also, I will be giving away all the Cooper references materials and books I have accumulated since 2008. You want any? Galen has got dibs on my copy of Himms' NORJAK, GG's Skyjack, and HAHAHA. Other than that, it's all up for grabs and I'll be bringing it down to Vancouver next week. First come, first serve.

Lastly, I will always continue to answer questions from those who call, chat on podcasts, and sell my books - DB Cooper and the FBI, 3rd Edition.

So, adios my friends. Love you all.

Bruce,

Thanks for all of your positivity and cheer through all of the sifting, sorting and debating. You're one of the few who seem incapable of turning troll. Like Bruce Banner without the rage monster. Wish you all of the best. Enjoy your retirement, amigo.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by nickyb233 on November 28, 2022, 07:11:35 PM »
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The Grey Cup happened the Sunday after the hijacking in Victoria, B.C. During the pregame activities a man wearing what appears to be a suit parachutes onto the field. Wonder if he was ever checked out? I remember the Cooper letters that were probably fake saying that he enjoyed the Grey Cup.

I've only seen the halftime show that had jumpers parachute down on to the field. Do you have footage of the pregame?
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Old Montana on November 27, 2022, 06:50:28 PM »
The Grey Cup happened the Sunday after the hijacking in Victoria, B.C. During the pregame activities a man wearing what appears to be a suit parachutes onto the field. Wonder if he was ever checked out? I remember the Cooper letters that were probably fake saying that he enjoyed the Grey Cup.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by andrade1812 on November 24, 2022, 10:51:19 PM »
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Apparently there were Lycopodium spores found on the tie.
One of the uses for this stuff was their use
in absolute diatom testing.

Question:
Was there anyone that was both involved with the tie and also diatom testing where there could possibly have been an issue of transference happening?

Thanks

Those spores were also in pill bottles, and in fingerprinting powders in use by the FBI. According to Tom Kaye, they are an investigatory dead end.

I wasn't looking at it as an investigatory lead.
I was just wondering if it was known if there was anyone who had possession of the tie and was doing diatom testing as well.
Thanks in advance.

Basically impossible, the testing for the tie happened long before the diatom study.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Jack on November 24, 2022, 06:57:15 PM »
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Apparently there were Lycopodium spores found on the tie.
One of the uses for this stuff was their use
in absolute diatom testing.

Question:
Was there anyone that was both involved with the tie and also diatom testing where there could possibly have been an issue of transference happening?

Thanks

Those spores were also in pill bottles, and in fingerprinting powders in use by the FBI. According to Tom Kaye, they are an investigatory dead end.

I wasn't looking at it as an investigatory lead.
I was just wondering if it was known if there was anyone who had possession of the tie and was doing diatom testing as well.
Thanks in advance.
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Mack on November 24, 2022, 12:36:17 PM »
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Big News - I'm Retiring

Yup, after CC22 next week I will officially retire as Mayor of Cooperville. I want to live a simpler life and one more closely connected to nature. My reasons for coming to Washington 32 years ago have concluded, so I will be leaving the Evergreen State and going into the big unknown.......
So, adios my friends. Love you all.

Glad you're moving on for positive reasons.  Your contributions to Cooperville over the years have been wonderful and are deeply appreciated.  I read here much more than I post, and consider you one of the pillars and founders of this current forum.  Take care and may you have fair winds and following seas!
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DB Cooper / Re: General Questions About The Case
« Last post by andrade1812 on November 24, 2022, 12:07:06 PM »
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I know that DB Cooper has become somewhat of an iconic personality but we seem to be losing sight of the fact that this man was in fact a criminal. If you hijacked a plane today you would most likely be considered a terrorist.
And to those who believe this was a victimless crime, please wake up. The people who endured those hours with Cooper were to become emotionally traumatized individuals.
The thoughts of a man holding a bomb that could blow up the plane your on in mid flight and kill you would become nightmares for these people for years if not a lifetime.
I watched the clip of Bill Mitchell from this year's CooperCon, when he was describing his time on the plane and when he got to the part where he had to mention the word bomb, you could clearly see he had emotional struggles with reliving those moments.
He and the others, like Flo and Tina and the pilot crew did not know if they would live or die that night. That is something one doesn't really ever get over especially in an era where seeing a therapist was more or less a taboo subject.
It's true that Bill didn't know about the bomb till afterwards, but the emotional results are the same when he did find out because he was right there watching the guy.
Yes this is an interesting case because Cooper has never been publicly identified but I think that all the hoopla people are giving Cooper, (mostly on the other site) like it's DB Cooper day, is a disservice to the emotional trauma his victims endured that night and for every night and year after that.

This is all just my own opinion.

A lot of us agree with you, Cooper was first and foremost a criminal.
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