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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Robert99 on September 19, 2021, 01:49:48 PM »
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Why would I go ballistic?

I’m not married to any particular theory. That said, I’ll still take the word of the national military security apparatus than some lonely airport manager who probably spent most of his time beating off to Playboy centerfolds than listening in on radio transmissions.

what!? You have the longtime Troutdale airport manager at the time all wrong. He did not endorse some west path. The rest is uncalled for ... 305 passing on the west side of PDX does not indicate a west path ... or unicorns in Tibet either. 

In fact, not al small airports closed in spite of knowing about the hijacking .... there was no order to close all small airports ...  small plane air traffic was reported during the passage of 305 south and some of that traffic is documented in Part 2A that we just got. You can read several reports in 2A, pages 31?, 50s... etc.

Georger, so ". . .305 passing on the west side of PDX does not indicate a west path. . .".

Then just exactly what does it indicate?  Have you had any training in "logic"? 
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Robert99 on September 19, 2021, 01:44:03 PM »
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Why would I go ballistic?

I’m not married to any particular theory. That said, I’ll still take the word of the national military security apparatus than some lonely airport manager who probably spent most of his time beating off to Playboy centerfolds than listening in on radio transmissions.

Chaucer, so you have a connection to "the national military security apparatus"?  I am impressed!  Is your base of operations in the Everglades?
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DB Cooper / Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Last post by Robert99 on September 19, 2021, 01:35:24 PM »
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Or a helicopter?
Further, can a plane take off "backwards?" Like blasting their reverse thrusters?

Bruce, you need to visit the FAA's web page and check out the definitions for "airplanes", "aircraft", "helicopters", etc.  A "helicopter" is not an "airplane".  But do check the FAA definitions.

On the subject of "helicopters", during forward (or "translational") flight a part of the retreating rotor blade can be in "reverse flow" depending on the rotor rotational speed and the translational speed of the helicopter.  This means that the airflow is coming from the backside of the rotor blade.  And it may come as a surprise to learn that the aerodynamics of the rotor airfoil are still quite good even in reverse flow.

Can an airplane takeoff backwards under some conditions?  In the cosmic scheme of things, that just might be possible but don't try it at home.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by fcastle866 on September 19, 2021, 12:40:34 PM »
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hunh?

I thought Georger was gently and comedically letting me know that my post was embarrassingly referencing old stuff that had been discussed and resolved long ago :-) 

So, I thought that was funny.

JAG: It was a good post.  I went back and reviewed the documents and realized that it's probably been close to 4 years since I first read that, and it being the second set I read, I don't even remember what I thought.  I sense that this suspect may have been vetted at some point as the documents seem to hint at that.  But then again you never know.  You're right about another person on a flight in California posing as a movie producer. 

It's good to get a fresh set of eyes on those 302's. 

On another note on the 302's. I FOIA'd the Elsinore jump cards and got the standard response back that they have already released the info. Technically this is true, but all the info was redacted and they did not release all the jump cards.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by JAG on September 19, 2021, 08:52:02 AM »
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hunh?

I thought Georger was gently and comedically letting me know that my post was embarrassingly referencing old stuff that had been discussed and resolved long ago :-) 

So, I thought that was funny.
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by georger on September 19, 2021, 04:29:35 AM »
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Why would I go ballistic?

I’m not married to any particular theory. That said, I’ll still take the word of the national military security apparatus than some lonely airport manager who probably spent most of his time beating off to Playboy centerfolds than listening in on radio transmissions.

what!? You have the longtime Troutdale airport manager at the time all wrong. He did not endorse some west path. The rest is uncalled for ... 305 passing on the west side of PDX does not indicate a west path ... or unicorns in Tibet either. 

In fact, not al small airports closed in spite of knowing about the hijacking .... there was no order to close all small airports ...  small plane air traffic was reported during the passage of 305 south and some of that traffic is documented in Part 2A that we just got. You can read several reports in 2A, pages 31?, 50s... etc.   
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DB Cooper / Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Last post by Bruce A. Smith on September 19, 2021, 04:28:06 AM »
Or a helicopter?
Further, can a plane take off "backwards?" Like blasting their reverse thrusters?
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Chaucer on September 19, 2021, 03:24:44 AM »
Why would I go ballistic?

I’m not married to any particular theory. That said, I’ll still take the word of the national military security apparatus than some lonely airport manager who probably spent most of his time beating off to Playboy centerfolds than listening in on radio transmissions.
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Robert99 on September 19, 2021, 02:38:39 AM »
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A few airport managers were aware of the hijacking and made decisions about their airports ?  How they were aware or who notified them, I dont recall. Did these managers know the route 305 was taking? I dont know. I do recall the Troutdale manager saying he inquired the next day which side of Portland 305 had crossed on - the West he was told. He also noted some small airports closed their airports, in part due to the weather that night.


Chaucer is going to go ballistic when he reads that the Troutdale manager was told the airliner bypassed Portland on the west side (and thus supports the Western Flight Path).  But for the record, you told me the same thing 10+ years ago.
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DB Cooper / Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Last post by Robert99 on September 19, 2021, 02:28:53 AM »
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...which end of an airplane takes off first?


Tricycle gear or taildragger?   hehehe

How about a VTOL? :)
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