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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on Today at 01:54:31 AM »
in 1971, tickets were handed to the customer inside a "ticket jacket"
the Northwest 1971 ticket jacket would have looked like this

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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on Today at 01:49:41 AM »
Northwest Airlines fleet list as of Jan 12, 1971
dunno if this was published before
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They had a lot of 727's
broken out as
B-727/1 (20)
B-727/2 (24)
B-727C/3 (12)

N467US is shown as B-727/1 NWA no 467, serial number 18803

I guess it was relatively early off the Boeing assembly line.
other data shows it as delivered 4/22/65

nice pic of N467US from July 31, 1968 at Portland
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on September 19, 2021, 11:50:36 PM »
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unreal.

It's enough to wonder about whether "random" bill groupings to cooper wasn't "random" according to any accepted test :)

or maybe cooper sorted some bills before he planted them!
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by georger on September 19, 2021, 11:48:17 PM »
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Thanks to all for the comments and extra digging !  Based on what snowmman found, it seems like 3 witnesses said it wasn't him.  If it's truly unrelated, it's certainly a hell of a coincidence. 

Do these documents ever become unredacted ?

agree! one helluva coincidence ? lottery odds!

lottery odds? that event is nothing compared to the following about serials found on Tena Bar..

Two of the Heritage Auction bills found on Tena Bar (there's only about 40)
are sequential in the FBI ransom list.
I had mentioned this before.

YET IT GETS BETTER!
There are two pairs of notes that are sequential in the FBI ransom list, that were found on Tena BAR! I hadn't noticed the second pair because I think they weren't auctioned.

What's the odds for that! lottery**2

New:
And! according to Flyjack they are in a photo of the 12 bundles on FBI press day....both are "top" notes on bundles. PLUS they are sequential in the sorted FBI list!!

# page 164 of fbi file 55, group D, rows 46 and 47
I02442844A 1969 164 46 D TOP BILL OF 12
I02591811A 1969 164 47 D TOP BILL OF 12

The ones I mentioned before that are heritage auction
# fbi file 55 page 168 group C rows 28 and 29
L03160387B 1963A 168 28 C
L03166965B 1963A 168 29 C

# their pics
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Explain those 4 notes!

unreal.   
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on September 19, 2021, 11:46:26 PM »
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Thanks to all for the comments and extra digging !  Based on what snowmman found, it seems like 3 witnesses said it wasn't him.  If it's truly unrelated, it's certainly a hell of a coincidence. 

Do these documents ever become unredacted ?

agree! one helluva coincidence ? lottery odds!

lottery odds? that event is nothing compared to the following about serials found on Tena Bar..

Two of the Heritage Auction bills found on Tena Bar (there's only about 40)
are sequential in the FBI ransom list.
I had mentioned this before.

YET IT GETS BETTER!
There are two pairs of notes that are each sequential within the FBI ransom list, that were found on Tena BAR! I hadn't noticed the second pair because I think they weren't auctioned.

What's the odds for that! lottery**2

New:
And! according to Flyjack they are in a photo of the 12 bundles on FBI press day....both are "top" notes on bundles. PLUS they are sequential in the sorted FBI list!!

# page 164 of fbi file 55, group D, rows 46 and 47
I02442844A 1969 164 46 D TOP BILL OF 12
I02591811A 1969 164 47 D TOP BILL OF 12

The ones I mentioned before that are heritage auction
# fbi file 55 page 168 group C rows 28 and 29
L03160387B 1963A 168 28 C
L03166965B 1963A 168 29 C

# their pics
L03160387B 1963A You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Explain those 4 notes!


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DB Cooper / Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Last post by georger on September 19, 2021, 11:42:10 PM »
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Here's a Tena Bar question

Was Tena Bar ever really called Tenas Bar ??

Ask the original owner's family  ;)  Tel Tena, changed to Del Tena ... Swiss ... grew potatoes and cabbage which the Faxios still grow today. Fazio family a large older family in the area, some of them successful farmers. But Ole Tel liked skiing ... turned over the property to a renter who went bankrupt ... sold the land to the Fazio family late forties or fifties?    and so it goes...

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Article from 1980 calling it TENA...If the Telegraph article is correct, maybe the guys name was Del Tena??

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Also finding some Tenas on 1930 census in Vancouver, Clark County, WA. One with given name of head of household that looks like "Tell".
33 yo - birthplace Switzerland, wife, 25 named Frances, 2 daughters, 7 and 8: Maybelle, and Yvonne.

Still looking, but "Tena" is looking like the correct spelling and origin.

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It's 1928, the Chehalis Bee-Nuggett reports this.... It's OCR text, so not sure about the numbers involved....

"Buys 580 Acre Dairy Ranch.
Sale of a 58O-acre dairy ranch on the Columbia near Vancouver is reported at a price of ?50,000. The purchaser is a man named Tell Tena and he has placed his herd of 85 dairy cattle on the place and will probably add others."
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DB Cooper / Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Last post by snowmman on September 19, 2021, 11:37:03 PM »
Here's a Tena Bar question

Was Tena Bar ever really called Tenas Bar ??
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by georger on September 19, 2021, 11:36:40 PM »
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Thanks to all for the comments and extra digging !  Based on what snowmman found, it seems like 3 witnesses said it wasn't him.  If it's truly unrelated, it's certainly a hell of a coincidence. 

Do these documents ever become unredacted ?

agree! one helluva coincidence ? lottery odds! 
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DB Cooper / Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Last post by georger on September 19, 2021, 11:33:13 PM »
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Or a helicopter?
Further, can a plane take off "backwards?" Like blasting their reverse thrusters?

What has any of this got to do with TENA BAR - MONEY FIND. This is the Tena Bar thread.  vote the smileycode and safe
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on September 19, 2021, 11:25:31 PM »
This eyewitness description hasn't been discussed to death yet.

I like it, because it fits my view of Cooper's personality that night as "give-no-fuck".

While skydivers might understand  the "give-no-fuck" attitude, I don't think the FBI ever really comprehended that...and it morphed into "unskilled" "incompetent" etc.

Never underestimate the power in "give-no-fuck". Can outperform the status-quo. Sure it sometimes result in death when statistics catch up, but it's great for creating information about where the boundaries are in any endeavor. (or what technologies need improving! like for wingsuits)


This is from page 30 of the Colbert FOIA files: TJC-FOIA-FBI-Section-1-Part-2A-118-Pages-11-26-71-to-11-28-71.pdf

It's not clear if it's the guy that sold Cooper a ticket, or someone else at the counter.

Love how he says he "has a habit of noticing individuals dressed in black"

And re: Cooper

"The man described above had a 'blah' attitude and was quite unaffected by the inclement weather conditions prevailing at the time, which noticeably bothered the rest of the passengers"

The other passengers were talking about getting wet walking out to the plane.

I'll see if I can find this page in the normal FBI vault files. The 302 is just one page. Subsequent pages talk about copies of this FD-302, which was of someone working for Northwest, at Portland International Airport. Name is redacted.

EDIT: yeah it's fbi file 11 page 324
I don't think anything is uniquely present in the colbert site files, is it?

EDIT: fascinating how sometimes the FBI SA name is redacted, like on this page, and sometimes not. Is the person who wrote this report still working for FBI when this pdf was released? strange.
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