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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2355 on: March 16, 2020, 04:25:55 AM »
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There was an incident with an intoxicated passenger?

That's what I've been told by Scott MacPherson, I believe. Maybe Jack Almstad, too.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2356 on: March 16, 2020, 04:28:28 AM »
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You have to have good reason for using the word "liar"

I don't see any evidence suggesting anyone went to the back of the plane other than a passenger. many talked about seeing a woman bring in the bag and chutes. nobody claimed a male doing the same. the FBI would ave to silence everyone on the plane. I've et to read about any of this from the witnesses..

I have heard from several witnesses that two men brought the money on board and Tina picked up the loot at the front of the plane. She is definitely the one who carried it to the back of the plane. I heard this from Larry Feingold, Scott MacPherson, Mike Cooper, and I think Jack Almstad. I have not seen any documentation on these tidbits anywhere.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2357 on: March 16, 2020, 04:35:24 AM »
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Sigh. These guys ought to read my book....
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2358 on: March 16, 2020, 05:06:51 AM »
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You have to have good reason for using the word "liar"

I don't see any evidence suggesting anyone went to the back of the plane other than a passenger. many talked about seeing a woman bring in the bag and chutes. nobody claimed a male doing the same. the FBI would ave to silence everyone on the plane. I've et to read about any of this from the witnesses..

I have heard from several witnesses that two men brought the money on board and Tina picked up the loot at the front of the plane. She is definitely the one who carried it to the back of the plane. I heard this from Larry Feingold, Scott MacPherson, Mike Cooper, and I think Jack Almstad. I have not seen any documentation on these tidbits anywhere.

So Tina did not go down the stairs to get any chutes she brought on? Or, she made two trips down the stair in addition to the chutes the guys brought up the stairs?

Did you ever interview anyone about the Heisson store story?

 
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2359 on: March 16, 2020, 03:01:28 PM »
Saved this from Snowmman 2008 - Heisson
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2360 on: March 16, 2020, 03:12:04 PM »
Old Rail lines Heisson Amboy area south to Vancouver and north behind Fazio property - then back north to Seattle.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2361 on: March 16, 2020, 03:32:37 PM »
How amusing to read all of this stuff.

1) Testimony from people stating that they took note of 305 flying over their homes that night because it was flying so low and was so loud is pure BS. After all, 305 was flying at 10,000 feet with engines throttled back significantly. 10,000 feet is well above what jets departing or arriving into PDX would be flying in the area...even jets approaching PDX while flying over Ariel will normally be flying under 10,000 feet at that point.

2) The railroad tracks do not travel near or behind the Fazio's property. For those who care to look, they will note that the tracks are on the other side of Lake River. No one is honestly arguing that Cooper swam across a river to get to the "island" that Tena Bar is on only to hike another 2,3,4 or 5 miles to Tena Bar, are they? Moreover, no one is honestly arguing that Cooper jumped off the train at the terminal in Vancouver then walked 7 miles north to Tena Bar, only to turn around and hike another 7 miles back to Vancouver, are they?
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2362 on: March 16, 2020, 03:34:09 PM »
My bet was the military jets was making all the noise...
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2363 on: March 16, 2020, 03:35:38 PM »
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My bet was the military jets was making all the noise...

I suspect you're right...which, by the way, were flying several miles east of 305.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2364 on: March 16, 2020, 04:20:12 PM »
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How amusing to read all of this stuff.

1) Testimony from people stating that they took note of 305 flying over their homes that night because it was flying so low and was so loud is pure BS. After all, 305 was flying at 10,000 feet with engines throttled back significantly. 10,000 feet is well above what jets departing or arriving into PDX would be flying in the area...even jets approaching PDX while flying over Ariel will normally be flying under 10,000 feet at that point.

2) The railroad tracks do not travel near or behind the Fazio's property. For those who care to look, they will note that the tracks are on the other side of Lake River. No one is honestly arguing that Cooper swam across a river to get to the "island" that Tena Bar is on only to hike another 2,3,4 or 5 miles to Tena Bar, are they? Moreover, no one is honestly arguing that Cooper jumped off the train at the terminal in Vancouver then walked 7 miles north to Tena Bar, only to turn around and hike another 7 miles back to Vancouver, are they?

I merely posted the data - which is more than you have done!

Nobody suggested Cooper swam the Lake River! Only you bring that up! The tracks are closer to the Fazio property than Seattle, or Portland or Vancouver is! Moreover, you can leave the tracks at Vancouver and simply walk up the shoreline to the Fazios. It's all relative. You might be able to hit the Fazios house with an arrow from the tracks?

Let's be honest. You dont want 305 anywhere near Heisson or even Battleground, even if that happened. You are totally invested and promoting your own story, like some virus!  :D You are anything but an impartial observer or commentator. Your propaganda only leads to chaos, dead ends, feuds, and headaches.

You must deny a Heisson story because you are selling your own account - for money $$$$$$$$$$$!   :rofl:       
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2365 on: March 16, 2020, 04:22:34 PM »
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How amusing to read all of this stuff.

1) Testimony from people stating that they took note of 305 flying over their homes that night because it was flying so low and was so loud is pure BS. After all, 305 was flying at 10,000 feet with engines throttled back significantly. 10,000 feet is well above what jets departing or arriving into PDX would be flying in the area...even jets approaching PDX while flying over Ariel will normally be flying under 10,000 feet at that point.

2) The railroad tracks do not travel near or behind the Fazio's property. For those who care to look, they will note that the tracks are on the other side of Lake River. No one is honestly arguing that Cooper swam across a river to get to the "island" that Tena Bar is on only to hike another 2,3,4 or 5 miles to Tena Bar, are they? Moreover, no one is honestly arguing that Cooper jumped off the train at the terminal in Vancouver then walked 7 miles north to Tena Bar, only to turn around and hike another 7 miles back to Vancouver, are they?

Not to mention that the airliner was also above an overcast and several cloud layers.  There is no way that anyone on the ground could see that aircraft and it is unlikely that they could hear it either.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2366 on: March 16, 2020, 04:27:30 PM »
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My bet was the military jets was making all the noise...

Heisson is a well known noise abatement zone - tons of jet noise abatement studies and legal actions over the years. But it is a commonly taken route. The person at Heisson is only giving his account of the night of the hijacking, during the critical period of the hijacking. That's all. Take it or leave it. The Heisson store was robbed that night of a pair of boots. Other reports. No similar reports at Woodland, for example ... or anywhere else. It's just data to be considered - it is not a novel by RobertMBlevins!   ;) 
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2367 on: March 16, 2020, 04:29:09 PM »
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How amusing to read all of this stuff.

1) Testimony from people stating that they took note of 305 flying over their homes that night because it was flying so low and was so loud is pure BS. After all, 305 was flying at 10,000 feet with engines throttled back significantly. 10,000 feet is well above what jets departing or arriving into PDX would be flying in the area...even jets approaching PDX while flying over Ariel will normally be flying under 10,000 feet at that point.

2) The railroad tracks do not travel near or behind the Fazio's property. For those who care to look, they will note that the tracks are on the other side of Lake River. No one is honestly arguing that Cooper swam across a river to get to the "island" that Tena Bar is on only to hike another 2,3,4 or 5 miles to Tena Bar, are they? Moreover, no one is honestly arguing that Cooper jumped off the train at the terminal in Vancouver then walked 7 miles north to Tena Bar, only to turn around and hike another 7 miles back to Vancouver, are they?

Not to mention that the airliner was also above an overcast and several cloud layers.  There is no way that anyone on the ground could see that aircraft and it is unlikely that they could hear it either.

Of course. The guy was probably senile and blind too!  :rofl: 

Oh! And water flows down hill.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2368 on: March 16, 2020, 04:47:14 PM »
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How amusing to read all of this stuff.

1) Testimony from people stating that they took note of 305 flying over their homes that night because it was flying so low and was so loud is pure BS. After all, 305 was flying at 10,000 feet with engines throttled back significantly. 10,000 feet is well above what jets departing or arriving into PDX would be flying in the area...even jets approaching PDX while flying over Ariel will normally be flying under 10,000 feet at that point.

2) The railroad tracks do not travel near or behind the Fazio's property. For those who care to look, they will note that the tracks are on the other side of Lake River. No one is honestly arguing that Cooper swam across a river to get to the "island" that Tena Bar is on only to hike another 2,3,4 or 5 miles to Tena Bar, are they? Moreover, no one is honestly arguing that Cooper jumped off the train at the terminal in Vancouver then walked 7 miles north to Tena Bar, only to turn around and hike another 7 miles back to Vancouver, are they?

I merely posted the data - which is more than you have done!

Nobody suggested Cooper swam the Lake River! Only you bring that up! The tracks are closer to the Fazio property than Seattle, or Portland or Vancouver is! Moreover, you can leave the tracks at Vancouver and simply walk up the shoreline to the Fazios. It's all relative. You might be able to hit the Fazios house with an arrow from the tracks?

Let's be honest. You dont want 305 anywhere near Heisson or even Battleground, even if that happened. You are totally invested and promoting your own story, like some virus!  :D You are anything but an impartial observer or commentator. Your propaganda only leads to chaos, dead ends, feuds, and headaches.

You must deny a Heisson story because you are selling your own account - for money $$$$$$$$$$$!   :rofl:     

GEORGER if you want to believe that Cooper walked 40 miles or swam across Lake River have at it. It's all yours.

I can assure you that what I've learned and what I know at this point is light years ahead of where you are. Just wait. You'll see.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2369 on: March 16, 2020, 05:06:15 PM »
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How amusing to read all of this stuff.

1) Testimony from people stating that they took note of 305 flying over their homes that night because it was flying so low and was so loud is pure BS. After all, 305 was flying at 10,000 feet with engines throttled back significantly. 10,000 feet is well above what jets departing or arriving into PDX would be flying in the area...even jets approaching PDX while flying over Ariel will normally be flying under 10,000 feet at that point.

2) The railroad tracks do not travel near or behind the Fazio's property. For those who care to look, they will note that the tracks are on the other side of Lake River. No one is honestly arguing that Cooper swam across a river to get to the "island" that Tena Bar is on only to hike another 2,3,4 or 5 miles to Tena Bar, are they? Moreover, no one is honestly arguing that Cooper jumped off the train at the terminal in Vancouver then walked 7 miles north to Tena Bar, only to turn around and hike another 7 miles back to Vancouver, are they?

Not to mention that the airliner was also above an overcast and several cloud layers.  There is no way that anyone on the ground could see that aircraft and it is unlikely that they could hear it either.

Of course. The guy was probably senile and blind too!  :rofl: 

Oh! And water flows down hill.

Georger, I thought we had an understanding that I would not reply to your posts and that you would not reply to mine.  Consequently, I will be reporting your wise assed post above.