Author Topic: Suspects And Confessions (Read 1311765 times)

Shutter · « **Reply #2295 on:** February 22, 2018, 11:17:43 PM »

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It's sad when other media use them as sources.

According to Robert Blevins, a production company bought the rights to his book that is full of error's..he was claiming for months that Bruce and Andrade lost out on $15,000 a piece to read a couple lines for accuracy

Kenny's brother started the whole thing by wanting a movie made about his brother being Cooper...and not because he thought he was Cooper either...

Rackstraw would make a better movie..more action involved..Kenny is dull and boring...

Shutter · « **Reply #2296 on:** February 22, 2018, 11:21:31 PM »

To make an actual movie (theater) you would really have to fabricate a lot of action to the story. I don't see it being a blockbuster regardless who the suspect would be..it's not that crazy and violent to draw a crowd..no gun play, no body got hurt..it would have to be a television program vs movie IMO...

MarkBennett · « **Reply #2297 on:** February 22, 2018, 11:29:34 PM »

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It's sad when other media use them as sources.

According to Robert Blevins, a production company bought the rights to his book that is full of error's..he was claiming for months that Bruce and Andrade lost out on $15,000 a piece to read a could lines for accuracy

Kenny's brother started the whole thing by wanting a movie made about his brother being Cooper...and not because he thought he was Cooper either...

Rackstraw would make a better movie..more action involved..Kenny is dull and boring...

Kenny's brother, Lyle, was a fan of the DB Cooper case -- not just for his brother. Vicki and I bought a few copies of "Ha Ha Ha" at the Ariel Tavern and put them for sale on Amazon. One of the buyers was Lyle Christianson in Minnesota.

georger · « **Reply #2298 on:** February 23, 2018, 12:22:44 AM »

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It's sad when other media use them as sources.

According to Robert Blevins, a production company bought the rights to his book that is full of error's..he was claiming for months that Bruce and Andrade lost out on $15,000 a piece to read a couple lines for accuracy

Kenny's brother started the whole thing by wanting a movie made about his brother being Cooper...and not because he thought he was Cooper either...

Rackstraw would make a better movie..more action involved..Kenny is dull and boring...

The whole Kenny thing is actually sad. Gray told me when he wrote his article on Kenny he never dreamed it would be adopted and taken to the place Blevins took it!

Lynn · « **Reply #2299 on:** February 23, 2018, 01:59:42 AM »

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It's sad when other media use them as sources.

According to Robert Blevins, a production company bought the rights to his book that is full of error's..he was claiming for months that Bruce and Andrade lost out on $15,000 a piece to read a couple lines for accuracy

Kenny's brother started the whole thing by wanting a movie made about his brother being Cooper...and not because he thought he was Cooper either...

Rackstraw would make a better movie..more action involved..Kenny is dull and boring...

Well, I rarely drop into the old DZ unguided as it frustrates me, for obvious reasons. But I did go in tonight briefly and noted "movie deal" (or some incarnation of it) was being talked about by a certain someone who shall remain shameless way back in 2011.

Shutter · « **Reply #2300 on:** February 23, 2018, 07:16:19 AM »

He talks about a movie deal often...2011, 2015, 2017 & 2018...

I still don't believe a movie about DB Cooper could be profitable to draw an audience. specially, a "true story"... Kenny had what appears to be a rather normal life. it's not a story about someone like Jimmy Hoffa..the "true story" about Kenny would have to be stretched 10 miles further than Blevins has already tried. no car chases, gunfights, no life on the edge with constant run ins with the law..they don't have anything to use...

Rackstraw seems to be the black sheep of the suspects..a lot can be done with his character, or McCoy. even with wild guys like Rackstraw you can only do so much with the actual story about DB Cooper...he threatened to blow up the plane with a bomb. he jumped out of the plane..........end of story..not much to go on with a "true story"

I think the main problem is finding someone to spend the millions at the risk of losing it..that's why it's taking so long. he speaks of multiple production companies. I'm guessing the first was a small company that doesn't have the money, so they are trying to sell the idea to the big boys...or it's all smoke and mirrors...if true, they must be scratching there heads with all the latest hype with Rackstraw...

georger · « **Reply #2301 on:** February 23, 2018, 01:10:54 PM »

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He talks about a movie deal often...2011, 2015, 2017 & 2018...

I still don't believe a movie about DB Cooper could be profitable to draw an audience. specially, a "true story"... Kenny had what appears to be a rather normal life. it's not a story about someone like Jimmy Hoffa..the "true story" about Kenny would have to be stretched 10 miles further than Blevins has already tried. no car chases, gunfights, no life on the edge with constant run ins with the law..they don't have anything to use...

Rackstraw seems to be the black sheep of the suspects..a lot can be done with his character, or McCoy. even with wild guys like Rackstraw you can only do so much with the actual story about DB Cooper...he threatened to blow up the plane with a bomb. he jumped out of the plane..........end of story..not much to go on with a "true story"

I think the main problem is finding someone to spend the millions at the risk of losing it..that's why it's taking so long. he speaks of multiple production companies. I'm guessing the first was a small company that doesn't have the money, so they are trying to sell the idea to the big boys...or it's all smoke and mirrors...if true, they must be scratching there heads with all the latest hype with Rackstraw...

He keeps talking movie deal not documentary. I have an idea: how about a cartoon?

Maybe there could be a cartoon deal? His emphasis is always on the deal.

Bobby and Gayler have a self perpetuating business: they make a mess, then they get to clean up the mess.

It started Aug 10 2010 and its still going! I will bet nobody else ever thought of that!

Its like these courses in business college where they teach you how to make a business out of making a business. It's the Reverend Billy Bob course on Perpetual Happiness as taught by Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in chapter 3 of the Book of Daniel, where three Hebrew men are thrown into a fiery furnace by Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon; when they refuse to bow down to the king's image the three are preserved from harm and the king sees three men walking in the flames, ! Blevins sees himself as walking in flames -

So, the Kenny deal is not just Cooperiffic, it's also Biblical. A commandment from the Angel Kenny, in a Cloud.

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Shutter · « **Reply #2302 on:** February 25, 2018, 11:58:04 AM »

The motive with a suspect is always suspect...would strikes and low wages be enough to hijack a plane, or being kicked out of the military..Cooper told them it had nothing to do with Northwest...past that is anyone's speculation. riots in prisons due to treatment, Pentagon papers, we have an endless amount of grudges that could come into play..

Rackstraw has a grudge, but it's from his own mistakes. he knew what he was doing was wrong, so it's kind of hard to really blame the military. sure he was pissed off, but again, he caused it...if they removed him for different reasons then perhaps he would have a legit grudge.

Christiansen, wrote some letters complaining about the strikes..lots of employee's were upset. I'll bet a lot of them left too. Kenny stayed, that tells me he was DEDICATED to his company..not the opposite. I have plenty of emails expressing concerns to several of the companies I work for...one could conclude I have a grudge. actually, it's concerns during a certain time period and not a totality of what is going on...to me, it appears Kenny was venting his frustration during that certain time period..his staying decades past is telling about his real commitment to the company...

FLYJACK · « **Reply #2303 on:** February 25, 2018, 01:56:17 PM »

1000's of people had motive
1000's of people had the skills
1000's of people fit the profile
1000's of people can fit the general description

1 person wore the tie for the 4-5 years prior to the hijacking, that is the best piece of physical evidence to lead to the hijacker..

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #2304 on:** February 25, 2018, 04:52:58 PM »

Back to Kenny for a minute...

...do we know definitively how much money he possessed at his time of death? I get asked about Kenny from time-to-time and I feel a little inadequate in just saying that "he was not Cooper, and all of Blevins's financial statements for KC are conflated."

From Shut's research we now know that KC didn't buy his house for cash. Plus, the $300,000 worth of stamps and coins has been reduced to $30,000. But is that still accurate? Further, how much money did he really have?

This latter element makes me wonder if KC was a criminal in some fashion other than stealing airplanes, and making money outside of his measly FA/Purser salary. I remember encouraging RMB to investigate KC's activities in the Orient, but of course he sloughed that off and stayed with the Cooper saga.

It all boils down to: I really wonder what Kenny's life was really like. What was it like to live in the closet with runaway boys at home, spending lots of time in Hong Kong and Tokyo with plenty of legal distractions there.

Also - did he spend any time with Bernie outside of Shemya and Point Pleasant?

By the way, does anybody besides me wonder who watched out for the boys in Bonney Lake while Kenny was flying to the Orient? Did he just leave them home alone?

Just askin'.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #2305 on:** February 25, 2018, 04:56:05 PM »

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1000's of people had motive
1000's of people had the skills
1000's of people fit the profile
1000's of people can fit the general description

1 person wore the tie for the 4-5 years prior to the hijacking, that is the best piece of physical evidence to lead to the hijacker..

I know Fly that you don't want to tell us who your suspect is, but can you tell us why you won't tell us?

Shutter · « **Reply #2306 on:** February 25, 2018, 05:14:33 PM »

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Back to Kenny for a minute...

...do we know definitively how much money he possessed at his time of death? I get asked about Kenny from time-to-time and I feel a little inadequate in just saying that "he was not Cooper, and all of Blevins's financial statements for KC are conflated."

From Shut's research we now know that KC didn't buy his house for cash. Plus, the $300,000 worth of stamps and coins has been reduced to $30,000. But is that still accurate? Further, how much money did he really have?

This latter element makes me wonder if KC was a criminal in some fashion other than stealing airplanes, and making money outside of his measly FA/Purser salary. I remember encouraging RMB to investigate KC's activities in the Orient, but of course he sloughed that off and stayed with the Cooper saga.

It all boils down to: I really wonder what Kenny's life was really like. What was it like to live in the closet with runaway boys at home, spending lots of time in Hong Kong and Tokyo with plenty of legal distractions there.

Also - did he spend any time with Bernie outside of Shemya and Point Pleasant?

By the way, does anybody besides me wonder who watched out for the boys in Bonney Lake while Kenny was flying to the Orient? Did he just leave them home alone?

Just askin'.

Kenny had close to $200 grand in one account, and some in another equaling around 200 grand..this was from a sale of property he bought in the 60's that paid off very well..this was the "mysterious" money that could easily be discovered had they REALLY looked...the property sold for $300,000...I forget the date but the property was sold not long before he died..

zero proof of any collection has ever been shown, he claimed on the DZ he seen the receipt..I call BS, just like the ad he says they took out looking for the boy who found the money on the property...it wasn't found during that period, nor has that story been proven as fact..Robert keeps good records, but fails to show proof of the collection, or the ad taken out in regards to the money..

Robert shot his own foot off posting a mortgage of the house, how could you have paid cash if you have a mortgage

Update: Kenny sold the property on October 12, 1992...

Shutter · « **Reply #2307 on:** February 25, 2018, 05:26:48 PM »

This shows you how far off Robert can be when he assumes things...Grey's book stated "Kenny purchased a home" Robert took that as a cash deal? he takes things for granted far too often to being plausible..who knows how much he has added to the statements made by others...

He thought the start of the Cooper documentary Colbert did had Bernie answering the door...it was Peterson...
He recommended that Felix Baumgartner jump from a much lower altitude?
He thought the producer's were against us from The Learning channel..
He thought the podcast he did was going to be the "podcast heard around the world" actually, it was a podcast that was based on politics...(right wingers)

It goes on and on with poor judgement calls...

Parrotheadvol · « **Reply #2308 on:** February 25, 2018, 08:25:05 PM »

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This shows you how far off Robert can be when he assumes things...Grey's book stated "Kenny purchased a home" Robert took that as a cash deal? he takes things for granted far too often to being plausible..who knows how much he has added to the statements made by others...

He thought the start of the Cooper documentary Colbert did had Bernie answering the door...it was Peterson...
He recommended that Felix Baumgartner jump from a much lower altitude?
He thought the producer's were against us from The Learning channel..
He thought the podcast he did was going to be the "podcast heard around the world" actually, it was a podcast that was based on politics...(right wingers)

It goes on and on with poor judgement calls...

So, it's been quite a while since I have read Greys book, Skyjack. Are you saying that Grey does NOT say anywhere in his book that Kenny purchased his home for cash? I read the NY Magazine article a couple of weeks ago, and it didn't say it in there either. RMB has long said that it was Grey that originally stated that.

Confidence is high...

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #2309 on:** February 25, 2018, 08:30:38 PM »

Yeah, I thought that GG had claimed the house was paid for in cash, and inferred that it came from the skyjacking. Oh, well. Thanks for refreshing my memory.

And thanks, Shut, for the financial update on KC.

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