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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3090 on: September 09, 2021, 06:25:13 PM »
people tell myths about Cooper all the time.
Even Agent Carr said things that were provably (now) wrong.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3091 on: September 14, 2021, 01:40:12 PM »
Which law enforcement department originally investigate the Heisson break-in the night of the hijacking? Clark County Sheriffs?

ETA:  It was the Clark County Sheriff's Office. I just spoke with someone there.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3092 on: September 15, 2021, 12:06:09 AM »
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Which law enforcement department originally investigate the Heisson break-in the night of the hijacking? Clark County Sheriffs?

ETA:  It was the Clark County Sheriff's Office. I just spoke with someone there.

They have the file on their investigation - just full out the form to get a copy.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2021, 12:06:50 AM by georger »
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3093 on: September 15, 2021, 12:07:30 AM »
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Which law enforcement department originally investigate the Heisson break-in the night of the hijacking? Clark County Sheriffs?

ETA:  It was the Clark County Sheriff's Office. I just spoke with someone there.

They have the file on their investigation - just full out the form to get a copy.
You've seen the sherrif's report on the matter?
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3094 on: September 15, 2021, 12:10:53 AM »
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Which law enforcement department originally investigate the Heisson break-in the night of the hijacking? Clark County Sheriffs?

ETA:  It was the Clark County Sheriff's Office. I just spoke with someone there.

They have the file on their investigation - just full out the form to get a copy.
You've seen the sherrif's report on the matter?

No but Ive talked to the dept about it - years ago. Better you get the file so you can see it for yourself. Ive never seen the file.

Actually I thought someone else would then post about it, but evidently not, so far.

*That store has been broken into so many times .... transients passing through because of the rail line. Any connection with the Cooper hijacking never came up - nobody ever suggested it ...
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3095 on: September 15, 2021, 12:21:49 AM »
I filed a public records request for it today. Frankly, I'm doubtful that I'll receive anything. The woman I spoke with on the phone said that unless it was deemed "historical" in nature that the record had likely been destroyed.

While the event might be historical in retrospect, I'm not sure it was deemed that in the past. My guess is that any police or incident reports from 50 years ago were thrown in the shredder long ago.

If, by a miracle, I get my hands on it, I'll be sure to share it.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3096 on: September 15, 2021, 12:41:44 AM »
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I filed a public records request for it today. Frankly, I'm doubtful that I'll receive anything. The woman I spoke with on the phone said that unless it was deemed "historical" in nature that the record had likely been destroyed.

While the event might be historical in retrospect, I'm not sure it was deemed that in the past. My guess is that any police or incident reports from 50 years ago were thrown in the shredder long ago.

If, by a miracle, I get my hands on it, I'll be sure to share it.

My clear impression is, nobody was looking for Cooper near Heisson. The FBI was claiming Cooper died during his jump, and the event happened somewhere around Lake Merwin. That was the official position being given to everyone. On the other hand there were endless 'incident' reports in and around Heisson involving transients, kids, hobos ... had anyone seriously suggested Cooper was on his way traveling south back to Vancouver/Portland a net for him might have been laid. That did not happen.   
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3097 on: September 15, 2021, 01:58:40 PM »
Well, today I received a denial letter via email for the police report detailing the Heisson store burglary. Reason given is that they could not locate said file. I will try again using a broader search base.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3098 on: September 15, 2021, 02:06:10 PM »
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Well, today I received a denial letter via email for the police report detailing the Heisson store burglary. Reason given is that they could not locate said file. I will try again using a broader search base.

Others are looking for it too. Its 50 years after the fact! 
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3099 on: September 15, 2021, 02:36:04 PM »
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Well, today I received a denial letter via email for the police report detailing the Heisson store burglary. Reason given is that they could not locate said file. I will try again using a broader search base.

Others are looking for it too. Its 50 years after the fact!

so odd there's no followup in the released FBI files.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3100 on: September 15, 2021, 03:02:25 PM »
I’m not optimistic.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3101 on: September 15, 2021, 04:08:02 PM »
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I’m not optimistic.

Here's the Heisson store and the rail line ... which these guys used... connecting rail line bridge at Portland in the background. This was but one such encampment back in the day and this may have been named Sullivan's Gulch ?
« Last Edit: September 15, 2021, 04:09:37 PM by georger »
 
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3102 on: September 17, 2021, 03:01:38 AM »
  Hager joked around that the store left a back window unlocked on purpose. Something about being cheaper just to let them in than having to replace the front door all the time. ( Something along that line) Evidently that place got broken into fairly often.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3103 on: September 17, 2021, 03:05:09 AM »
   Hag thought the break-in sounded out of character for Cooper? Also thought it was too far south?
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #3104 on: September 17, 2021, 03:15:23 AM »
      Would love to see pics of the encampment located across the river from Tena Bar. ( pics from back in the day) Hager used to hang out there.