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Offline JAG

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #7875 on: June 23, 2022, 09:10:58 PM »
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The main problem I see with the known suspects is they have been on television, newspapers, websites, all over the place for witnesses to see them. not one has come forward to say it's him or really close.

I believe once they actually see a photo of Cooper it would trigger the memory. I remember seeing my old middle school year book I found on classmates.com..I had memory of a lot of them but it came flooding back once I seen there photo's again. you can forget a lot of details until it is presented right in front of you. a lot were already shot down in the first year after the crime by the crew.

Blevins loves to play the memory game to keep his suspect alive on the internet. I'm sure all three of the stews have come across something related to Kenny. Tina shot down Rackstraw and it appears to mean nothing?

I don't believe Cooper has surfaced in any of the suspects...

Really good points Shutter, it's not like the only time the key witnesses saw all of these suspects was when the FBI showed them a picture once.  Especially with the rise of the internet in the last 25 to 30 years, they would have had access to these images and maybe even searched them up on their own.  We can't know for sure, but I tend to agree, at least for some of the higher profile and longer tenured suspects.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #7876 on: June 23, 2022, 09:18:04 PM »
Speaking of suspects, back to the Colbert/Rackstraw investigation.  Colbert states that Bill Mitchell picked Rackstraw out of a lineup as the hijacker.  I believe Bill was at Coopercon and some here in the Vortex have met and spoke with him--has he been asked about this or addressed it ?
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #7877 on: June 23, 2022, 09:38:28 PM »
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Every witness said it wasn't McCoy.

Flo, Tina, Alice, Mitchell

Every. Single. One.

During his hijacking, McCoy attempted to disguise himself, but every witness was later able to ID him.

That alone is a huge hurdle, and that's ignoring the detailed and thorough investigation of McCoy that cleared him of the Cooper hijacking.
Yet their composite drawing looked like McCoy.  And the FBI office in Reno made tons of mistakes.  Did not collect many items that could have been used for prints. FBI agent McCallum is a pretty smart cookie.  He is very convinced it was McCoy.  And one agent said that McCoy said something at his trial only  the real Cooper could have known, about the money  being lost.  The money lost was not found until years later. McCoy had the smarts to pull it off, was tough enough to pull it off regardless of being dressed wrong.  Former green beret.  Flo Shaffner is a horrible witness.  She has proven that. He was likely disguised before he got on the plane. How could they know?  And what about his relatives saying the tie and clip were Richards?  Just as damning as your stewardess testimony is non damning.

Obviously, similarity is in the eye of the beholder, to me the sketches look nothing like McCoy, especially regarding his ears, hairline, and posture. Let's not forget McCoy had a North Carolina (southern) accent and a lisp from his surgically repaired cleft pallet. It's more than just looks, McCoy couldn't even pretend to be Cooper.

Re: the fingerprints; The FBI literally removed the seat Cooper was sitting in, and had what they believed was a good palmprint from Cooper. McCoy's prints did not match any of the fingerprints collected.

SA Calume's book is actually talked about in the FBI files, and it's implied he wrote the book for money, as he should have been aware of all the evidence that effectively cleared McCoy of being Cooper.

I want to re-iterate that McCoy attempted to disguise himself during his hijacking, yet every witness was able to ID him. Cooper did not disguise himself, (unless his disguise was done by an Academy Award winning Hollywood makeup team), and every witness from 305 said McCoy was not Cooper.

As for McCoy saying Cooper lost the money, you'll have to give a source on that, I just paged through the interview chapters in the Calume/Rhodes book and didn't see that statement. Not that I trust that book... I've said this before, but there are some outright fabrications in the Calame/Rhodes book, and it can no longer be taken seriously as a source. We know this because the FBI documents are now available.

As for the tie, the FBI investigated McCoy's connection. They located two pictures of McCoy wearing his dark tie. We know this from the FBI releases. Most importantly, thanks to Tom Kaye, we know there are pin holes on Cooper's tie from the tie clip and a missing tie tack. The pictures showed that McCoy's tie did not have any clips or tacks.

And of course, we need to mention the exotic particles Tom found on the tie, particles that McCoy would not have been exposed to, and for which there is no source in Utah.
Forensically, McCoy's connection to the tie has been thoroughly debunked. It could not have come from McCoy.
 
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #7878 on: June 23, 2022, 10:28:44 PM »
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Speaking of suspects, back to the Colbert/Rackstraw investigation.  Colbert states that Bill Mitchell picked Rackstraw out of a lineup as the hijacker.  I believe Bill was at Coopercon and some here in the Vortex have met and spoke with him--has he been asked about this or addressed it ?

He's only telling half the story here. Mitchell pointed out Rackstraw out a group of 6 (I think) photos and said, "That's Richard McCoy". So in Culbert's slanted way of thinking, he said that meant that Mitchell was actually recognizing Rackstraw from the hijacking. Crazy.
 
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #7879 on: June 23, 2022, 10:30:08 PM »
Didn't he also complain that he couldn't really remember?
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #7880 on: June 23, 2022, 10:35:01 PM »
The memory of the witnesses are weak because they had no reason to recall him. this makes it tough on people like Mitchell, it was nobody to him until they told him who he was after the fact..
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #7881 on: June 23, 2022, 10:41:16 PM »
From Colbert's website:

“I believe it is no coincidence that the witness mistakenly identified this man as another hijacker who had been captured and shown in the media, when in fact he had pointed to the picture of [Rackstraw]. It seems likely the current prime suspect was encoded in the witness’s memory accurately as the hijacker during events so many years before, and he subconsciously made his choice upon that basis. He reacted as if he had seen him before, and with the accompanying label of hijacker.”

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #7882 on: June 23, 2022, 10:48:35 PM »
If it was encoded in Mitchell's mind, he should of said "That's him, I remember now"

Doesn't sound like a triggered response at all...
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #7883 on: June 23, 2022, 10:53:10 PM »
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From Colbert's website:

“I believe it is no coincidence that the witness mistakenly identified this man as another hijacker who had been captured and shown in the media, when in fact he had pointed to the picture of [Rackstraw]. It seems likely the current prime suspect was encoded in the witness’s memory accurately as the hijacker during events so many years before, and he subconsciously made his choice upon that basis. He reacted as if he had seen him before, and with the accompanying label of hijacker.”




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Thanks Parrot, I missed that on the web site, that is certainly a bit of a stretch that he is making.  I came across the attached pic on his other site You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #7884 on: June 23, 2022, 10:55:35 PM »
Rackstraw was also eliminated by a thorough FBI investigation. They spent a long time trying to get a legal order for Rackstraw's palm prints for a comparison, with a null result in the end. Witnesses also denied Rackstraw was Cooper. Beyond that, the FBI found out where Rackstraw was working before and after the hijacking (Radio Shack) and they talked to a roommate, presumably Rackstraw's girlfriend, who said he was never gone during a 6 month stretch that included the hijacking.
 
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