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Offline haggarknew

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4515 on: November 07, 2023, 06:19:41 AM »
                  I have no doubt that Sage radar was working that night. Although 305's elevation might caused a very brief hiccup, at times , I see no reason to doubt the Sage radar. I believe Sage probably performed as expected. I believe it was the inability of the 106's to actually " intercept"  flight 305 that caused a breech in our national defense system. I don't think it was foreseen that the 106's couldn't fly with 305  under the conditions of that night.  The repercussions from this affected the case in a myriad of ways, in my humble opinion.  I also believe this to (understandably) have been intentionally understated by the military and authorities.
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4516 on: November 07, 2023, 12:07:59 PM »
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                  I have no doubt that Sage radar was working that night. Although 305's elevation might caused a very brief hiccup, at times , I see no reason to doubt the Sage radar. I believe Sage probably performed as expected. I believe it was the inability of the 106's to actually " intercept"  flight 305 that caused a breech in our national defense system. I don't think it was foreseen that the 106's couldn't fly with 305  under the conditions of that night.  The repercussions from this affected the case in a myriad of ways, in my humble opinion.  I also believe this to (understandably) have been intentionally understated by the military and authorities.

Haggar, here are some questions you apparently believe you have the answer to so please enlighten me:

1.  Specifically, what is the SAGE radar you refer to?  There were many radar sets operating in 1971, and I have never heard of one being called a SAGE radar.   

2.  What is the basis for your claim that the SAGE system was even operating the night of the hijacking?  Never been proven to my knowledge.

3.  What is the basis for your claim that the F-106s did not intercept the airliner?  They did.

4.  What is the basis for your claim that the hijacking breached the US national defense system?  It didn't.

Eagerly awaiting your answers.
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4517 on: November 27, 2023, 11:39:10 PM »
As I recall the F 106s never saw the 727. A “trash hauler” C 130 out of McChord did a visual intercept, much to the chagrin of the fighter jocks.

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4518 on: November 28, 2023, 02:38:34 PM »
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As I recall the F 106s never saw the 727. A “trash hauler” C 130 out of McChord did a visual intercept, much to the chagrin of the fighter jocks.

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As I understand it, the C-130 joined up with the airliner in Oregon sometime before it was handed off to the Oakland Center in northern California.  The C-130 did have visual contact and stayed with the airliner all the way to Reno.

The fighter aircraft did not have visual contact due to the bad weather in the Portland area.  However, the F-106s did have radar contact with the airliner and that counts as a contact.