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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Reply #6165 on: April 10, 2021, 09:30:38 AM »
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Did you ask if he could see the Moon? Of course not.

This is a stupid thing to be debating or even discussing...who gives a $#!+?

Bottom line, the F-106's and the T-33 never made visual contact with 305, in part because they were flying in the clouds.

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Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Reply #6166 on: April 10, 2021, 12:17:39 PM »
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Did you ask if he could see the Moon? Of course not.

This is a stupid thing to be debating or even discussing...who gives a $#!+?

Bottom line, the F-106's and the T-33 never made visual contact with 305, in part because they were flying in the clouds.

Next subject.

You brought it up!   ;)
 

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Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Reply #6167 on: April 10, 2021, 12:20:24 PM »
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Did you ask if he could see the Moon? Of course not.

This is a stupid thing to be debating or even discussing...who gives a $#!+?

Bottom line, the F-106's and the T-33 never made visual contact with 305, in part because they were flying in the clouds.

Next subject.

You brought it up!   ;)

No I didn't.
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Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Reply #6168 on: April 10, 2021, 02:34:44 PM »
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Lunar data for Portland 20:10 11-24-71 ... this was posted at DZ years ago.

Planetarium is Stellarium - Wiki Sky.   At 20:10 as seen from Portland, the moon was about 35% above the southern horizon almost directly south. ~41% of the moon's disk illuminated.

Keep track of the fact R99 reports nobody could see anything due to cloud cover and fog ?  However, anyone with any current navigational knowledge who knew where Mars and the Moon were, not only would have been able to estimate the time at 2010 but would have had directional markers to orient by ...

Georger, you brought this up.  You apparently believe that Cooper could have seen both the Moon and Mars and orient himself accordingly.

From the ground, no one is going to be able to see the Moon or Mars through two cloud layers plus an overcast at 5000 feet.  At 10,000 feet, if the airliner was actually flying in clouds and rain as the crew claimed, you are still not going to be able to see the Moon or Mars.

For the record, if the airliner was flying in rain, then the rain must be coming from some clouds that are above it.  Water runs downhill and rain normally falls downward, unless it is caught in a strong updraft.  Dream on. ::)
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Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Reply #6169 on: April 11, 2021, 01:47:00 AM »
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Lunar data for Portland 20:10 11-24-71 ... this was posted at DZ years ago.

Planetarium is Stellarium - Wiki Sky.   At 20:10 as seen from Portland, the moon was about 35% above the southern horizon almost directly south. ~41% of the moon's disk illuminated.

Keep track of the fact R99 reports nobody could see anything due to cloud cover and fog ?  However, anyone with any current navigational knowledge who knew where Mars and the Moon were, not only would have been able to estimate the time at 2010 but would have had directional markers to orient by ...

Georger, you brought this up.  You apparently believe that Cooper could have seen both the Moon and Mars and orient himself accordingly.

From the ground, no one is going to be able to see the Moon or Mars through two cloud layers plus an overcast at 5000 feet.  At 10,000 feet, if the airliner was actually flying in clouds and rain as the crew claimed, you are still not going to be able to see the Moon or Mars.

For the record, if the airliner was flying in rain, then the rain must be coming from some clouds that are above it.  Water runs downhill and rain normally falls downward, unless it is caught in a strong updraft.  Dream on. ::)

Thanks for the bs. The facts I presented are the facts whether you like it or not. Whether anyone in the whole State of Washington saw the moon or Mars during the hijacking, is another matter. According to you, apparently not!  ;)  My guess is, yours is just one more nullification play.       
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Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Reply #6170 on: April 11, 2021, 05:22:36 PM »
Here's an interesting thing to consider:

What would the missing 9,700 DB Cooper twenty-dollar bills be worth if found today?

My guess would be about 1K each which would put the total value at about $10 million.

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Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Reply #6171 on: April 11, 2021, 05:37:37 PM »
It would be worth about a 20 year prison sentence.  :rofl:
 
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Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Reply #6172 on: April 11, 2021, 06:00:47 PM »
Collector value would go down as more bills were found. I would wager they'd run about twice the current book value for star notes from those years. About $100 each.
 

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Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Reply #6173 on: April 12, 2021, 12:49:07 AM »
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Collector value would go down as more bills were found. I would wager they'd run about twice the current book value for star notes from those years. About $100 each.

Globe Indemnity still has their part of the Ingram find awarded by the Court. No record known they sold their bills. Their attorney in Portland neatly wrapped the bill folders given him by the FBI in sheets of typing paper and slipped the wrapped bills into a large mailer and sent it off by Registered mail, insured for *face amount of the bills.  ;)

Think about this: The Globe bills might have considerable value forensically, in addition to their collector value. Brian's bills the same, but I could never convince him of that fact! Brian is not a techy kind of guy.

Where would you look for the rest of the money? Hundreds of people already have. Keep in mind no artifacts of the case have ever been found in spite of people searching through the years ... in places law enforcement never checked. Abandoned mines, quarries, caves, abandoned hobo encampments, railroad viaducts, etc. If  you can conceive of it is was probably searched by someone or teams of someones. The discovery of Cooper money in 1980 saw a resurgence of that activity...
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