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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5085 on: August 08, 2022, 08:14:40 AM »
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A lot more chatter in the Vortex than in the Zodiac community.
So do you think the Zodiac is solvable?  Also, re above sketch's, the unibomber is not in there.  That one was not very good either. Ted K.
I do believe that the Zodiac is solvable due to more physical evidence. I’ll say this:  I think the lack of chatter in the Zodiac case is due to a calm before the storm on the part of law enforcement rather than a cold case getting colder.

I watched the movie on the case some time back.  They seemed to believe they knew who he was?  Im not sure how many suspects but Im sure far less than in this Cooper craziness. So many false confessions.  But you do not see false confessions as often on a first degree murder rap. 
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5086 on: August 08, 2022, 06:01:02 PM »
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A lot more chatter in the Vortex than in the Zodiac community.
So do you think the Zodiac is solvable?  Also, re above sketch's, the unibomber is not in there.  That one was not very good either. Ted K.
I do believe that the Zodiac is solvable due to more physical evidence. I’ll say this:  I think the lack of chatter in the Zodiac case is due to a calm before the storm on the part of law enforcement rather than a cold case getting colder.

I watched the movie on the case some time back.  They seemed to believe they knew who he was?  Im not sure how many suspects but Im sure far less than in this Cooper craziness. So many false confessions.  But you do not see false confessions as often on a first degree murder rap.
The movie was based on a book from the 1980s about a suspect that the author had identified. The suspect was later cleared through multiple means including DNA. It's a great movie, but mostly fictionalized.

The case remains open and unsolved today.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5087 on: August 08, 2022, 06:59:15 PM »
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A lot more chatter in the Vortex than in the Zodiac community.
So do you think the Zodiac is solvable?  Also, re above sketch's, the unibomber is not in there.  That one was not very good either. Ted K.
I do believe that the Zodiac is solvable due to more physical evidence. I’ll say this:  I think the lack of chatter in the Zodiac case is due to a calm before the storm on the part of law enforcement rather than a cold case getting colder.

I watched the movie on the case some time back.  They seemed to believe they knew who he was?  Im not sure how many suspects but Im sure far less than in this Cooper craziness. So many false confessions.  But you do not see false confessions as often on a first degree murder rap.
The movie was based on a book from the 1980s about a suspect that the author had identified. The suspect was later cleared through multiple means including DNA. It's a great movie, but mostly fictionalized.

The case remains open and unsolved today.

Chaucer, you got it right and that is not an insult.  None of the Zodiac ciphers have been solved and may not be solveable. 
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5088 on: August 08, 2022, 07:36:10 PM »
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A lot more chatter in the Vortex than in the Zodiac community.
So do you think the Zodiac is solvable?  Also, re above sketch's, the unibomber is not in there.  That one was not very good either. Ted K.
I do believe that the Zodiac is solvable due to more physical evidence. I’ll say this:  I think the lack of chatter in the Zodiac case is due to a calm before the storm on the part of law enforcement rather than a cold case getting colder.

I watched the movie on the case some time back.  They seemed to believe they knew who he was?  Im not sure how many suspects but Im sure far less than in this Cooper craziness. So many false confessions.  But you do not see false confessions as often on a first degree murder rap.
The movie was based on a book from the 1980s about a suspect that the author had identified. The suspect was later cleared through multiple means including DNA. It's a great movie, but mostly fictionalized.

The case remains open and unsolved today.

Chaucer, you got it right and that is not an insult.  None of the Zodiac ciphers have been solved and may not be solveable.
First, two of the ciphers have been solved. I have posted multiple pieces of evidence in that regard in the past. It's not a debate. It's fact.

Second, the case itself remains unsolved despite two the four ciphers being cracked.
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« Reply #5089 on: August 09, 2022, 12:22:23 AM »
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A lot more chatter in the Vortex than in the Zodiac community.
So do you think the Zodiac is solvable?  Also, re above sketch's, the unibomber is not in there.  That one was not very good either. Ted K.
I do believe that the Zodiac is solvable due to more physical evidence. I’ll say this:  I think the lack of chatter in the Zodiac case is due to a calm before the storm on the part of law enforcement rather than a cold case getting colder.

I watched the movie on the case some time back.  They seemed to believe they knew who he was?  Im not sure how many suspects but Im sure far less than in this Cooper craziness. So many false confessions.  But you do not see false confessions as often on a first degree murder rap.
The movie was based on a book from the 1980s about a suspect that the author had identified. The suspect was later cleared through multiple means including DNA. It's a great movie, but mostly fictionalized.

The case remains open and unsolved today.

Chaucer, you got it right and that is not an insult.  None of the Zodiac ciphers have been solved and may not be solveable.
First, two of the ciphers have been solved. I have posted multiple pieces of evidence in that regard in the past. It's not a debate. It's fact.

Second, the case itself remains unsolved despite two the four ciphers being cracked.

Chaucer, you are mistaken and that is not an insult either.  To solve a cipher you must first determine what constitutes the cipher and you and your friends have not done so.  Regardless of your claims about solving, you have not actually made it to the very first and mandatory step in solving the ciphers.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5090 on: August 09, 2022, 11:22:00 AM »
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A lot more chatter in the Vortex than in the Zodiac community.
So do you think the Zodiac is solvable?  Also, re above sketch's, the unibomber is not in there.  That one was not very good either. Ted K.
I do believe that the Zodiac is solvable due to more physical evidence. I’ll say this:  I think the lack of chatter in the Zodiac case is due to a calm before the storm on the part of law enforcement rather than a cold case getting colder.

I watched the movie on the case some time back.  They seemed to believe they knew who he was?  Im not sure how many suspects but Im sure far less than in this Cooper craziness. So many false confessions.  But you do not see false confessions as often on a first degree murder rap.
The movie was based on a book from the 1980s about a suspect that the author had identified. The suspect was later cleared through multiple means including DNA. It's a great movie, but mostly fictionalized.

The case remains open and unsolved today.

Chaucer, you got it right and that is not an insult.  None of the Zodiac ciphers have been solved and may not be solveable.
First, two of the ciphers have been solved. I have posted multiple pieces of evidence in that regard in the past. It's not a debate. It's fact.

Second, the case itself remains unsolved despite two the four ciphers being cracked.

Chaucer, you are mistaken and that is not an insult either.  To solve a cipher you must first determine what constitutes the cipher and you and your friends have not done so.  Regardless of your claims about solving, you have not actually made it to the very first and mandatory step in solving the ciphers.
There are people who believe the moon landing was a hoax and Tupac is still alive, so there's room for all sorts in this world.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5091 on: August 10, 2022, 10:42:27 AM »
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A lot more chatter in the Vortex than in the Zodiac community.
So do you think the Zodiac is solvable?  Also, re above sketch's, the unibomber is not in there.  That one was not very good either. Ted K.
I do believe that the Zodiac is solvable due to more physical evidence. I’ll say this:  I think the lack of chatter in the Zodiac case is due to a calm before the storm on the part of law enforcement rather than a cold case getting colder.

I watched the movie on the case some time back.  They seemed to believe they knew who he was?  Im not sure how many suspects but Im sure far less than in this Cooper craziness. So many false confessions.  But you do not see false confessions as often on a first degree murder rap.
The movie was based on a book from the 1980s about a suspect that the author had identified. The suspect was later cleared through multiple means including DNA. It's a great movie, but mostly fictionalized.

The case remains open and unsolved today.

Chaucer, you got it right and that is not an insult.  None of the Zodiac ciphers have been solved and may not be solveable.
First, two of the ciphers have been solved. I have posted multiple pieces of evidence in that regard in the past. It's not a debate. It's fact.

Second, the case itself remains unsolved despite two the four ciphers being cracked.

Chaucer, you are mistaken and that is not an insult either.  To solve a cipher you must first determine what constitutes the cipher and you and your friends have not done so.  Regardless of your claims about solving, you have not actually made it to the very first and mandatory step in solving the ciphers.
There are people who believe the moon landing was a hoax and Tupac is still alive, so there's room for all sorts in this world.

Such nonsense about the moon landing.  It really piss's me off.  Same type of idiots that believe Hitler made it out and all of these things.  Back to Cooper, I am sick of EU having his name all over these YouTube shows and yet, he pulls the History channel show that leans to McCoy.  The titanium could also be from the medical field could it not?  If you read this by some long shot EU, why dont you just put the McCoy/Cooper History show back up because it is a very good watch on his escape from Lewiburg and the skyjacking he did on I believe it was flight 855 from Denver to LA that he had land in SF.  You accuse others of trying to make this case fit their guy.  Yet you have a big problem with Gryder and his theory.  They may all be wrong. But at least we would have all the actual History in front of us. You are the only one with an agenda to pull that film.  You just sicken me.  I've seen phonies like you before. Smart, articulate and behind the scenes just a shark
 

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« Reply #5092 on: August 10, 2022, 11:14:07 AM »
What proof do you have EU is pulling video's off of YouTube?
 

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« Reply #5093 on: August 10, 2022, 12:23:08 PM »
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A lot more chatter in the Vortex than in the Zodiac community.
So do you think the Zodiac is solvable?  Also, re above sketch's, the unibomber is not in there.  That one was not very good either. Ted K.
I do believe that the Zodiac is solvable due to more physical evidence. I’ll say this:  I think the lack of chatter in the Zodiac case is due to a calm before the storm on the part of law enforcement rather than a cold case getting colder.

I watched the movie on the case some time back.  They seemed to believe they knew who he was?  Im not sure how many suspects but Im sure far less than in this Cooper craziness. So many false confessions.  But you do not see false confessions as often on a first degree murder rap.
The movie was based on a book from the 1980s about a suspect that the author had identified. The suspect was later cleared through multiple means including DNA. It's a great movie, but mostly fictionalized.

The case remains open and unsolved today.

Chaucer, you got it right and that is not an insult.  None of the Zodiac ciphers have been solved and may not be solveable.
First, two of the ciphers have been solved. I have posted multiple pieces of evidence in that regard in the past. It's not a debate. It's fact.

Second, the case itself remains unsolved despite two the four ciphers being cracked.

Chaucer, you are mistaken and that is not an insult either.  To solve a cipher you must first determine what constitutes the cipher and you and your friends have not done so.  Regardless of your claims about solving, you have not actually made it to the very first and mandatory step in solving the ciphers.
There are people who believe the moon landing was a hoax and Tupac is still alive, so there's room for all sorts in this world.

Such nonsense about the moon landing.  It really piss's me off.  Same type of idiots that believe Hitler made it out and all of these things.  Back to Cooper, I am sick of EU having his name all over these YouTube shows and yet, he pulls the History channel show that leans to McCoy.  The titanium could also be from the medical field could it not?  If you read this by some long shot EU, why dont you just put the McCoy/Cooper History show back up because it is a very good watch on his escape from Lewiburg and the skyjacking he did on I believe it was flight 855 from Denver to LA that he had land in SF.  You accuse others of trying to make this case fit their guy.  Yet you have a big problem with Gryder and his theory.  They may all be wrong. But at least we would have all the actual History in front of us. You are the only one with an agenda to pull that film.  You just sicken me.  I've seen phonies like you before. Smart, articulate and behind the scenes just a shark
You can be critical without being insulting. You don’t need personal attacks to make your point.
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« Reply #5094 on: August 10, 2022, 12:47:21 PM »
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The titanium could also be from the medical field could it not?

Yes, a longtime friend of mine is a electronics wizard. I showed him several elements listed on Kaye's site and was told to look in the medical field due to some of the elements being radio active..
 

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« Reply #5095 on: August 10, 2022, 02:36:35 PM »
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A lot more chatter in the Vortex than in the Zodiac community.
So do you think the Zodiac is solvable?  Also, re above sketch's, the unibomber is not in there.  That one was not very good either. Ted K.
I do believe that the Zodiac is solvable due to more physical evidence. I’ll say this:  I think the lack of chatter in the Zodiac case is due to a calm before the storm on the part of law enforcement rather than a cold case getting colder.

I watched the movie on the case some time back.  They seemed to believe they knew who he was?  Im not sure how many suspects but Im sure far less than in this Cooper craziness. So many false confessions.  But you do not see false confessions as often on a first degree murder rap.
The movie was based on a book from the 1980s about a suspect that the author had identified. The suspect was later cleared through multiple means including DNA. It's a great movie, but mostly fictionalized.

The case remains open and unsolved today.

Chaucer, you got it right and that is not an insult.  None of the Zodiac ciphers have been solved and may not be solveable.
First, two of the ciphers have been solved. I have posted multiple pieces of evidence in that regard in the past. It's not a debate. It's fact.

Second, the case itself remains unsolved despite two the four ciphers being cracked.

Chaucer, you are mistaken and that is not an insult either.  To solve a cipher you must first determine what constitutes the cipher and you and your friends have not done so.  Regardless of your claims about solving, you have not actually made it to the very first and mandatory step in solving the ciphers.
There are people who believe the moon landing was a hoax and Tupac is still alive, so there's room for all sorts in this world.

Such nonsense about the moon landing.  It really piss's me off.  Same type of idiots that believe Hitler made it out and all of these things.  Back to Cooper, I am sick of EU having his name all over these YouTube shows and yet, he pulls the History channel show that leans to McCoy.  The titanium could also be from the medical field could it not?  If you read this by some long shot EU, why dont you just put the McCoy/Cooper History show back up because it is a very good watch on his escape from Lewiburg and the skyjacking he did on I believe it was flight 855 from Denver to LA that he had land in SF.  You accuse others of trying to make this case fit their guy.  Yet you have a big problem with Gryder and his theory.  They may all be wrong. But at least we would have all the actual History in front of us. You are the only one with an agenda to pull that film.  You just sicken me.  I've seen phonies like you before. Smart, articulate and behind the scenes just a shark

The McCoy "History Channel" program was in fact an episode of the FBI Files, a Discovery network TV program.  This program still airs in reruns across the US, thus the episode may very well air again some day on traditional broadcast TV. It is much more likely that the copyright holders are the ones preventing the distribution of this program on the YouTube platform than Eric Ulis. Copyright blocking is a perfectly normal, reasonable, and benign explanation for why one is unable to find this episode YouTube.
 

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« Reply #5096 on: August 10, 2022, 02:56:27 PM »
YouTube has builtin software that picks up infringement..they also work with many production companies insuring the programs are removed quickly..
 

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« Reply #5097 on: August 11, 2022, 12:14:37 PM »
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The titanium could also be from the medical field could it not?

Yes, a longtime friend of mine is a electronics wizard. I showed him several elements listed on Kaye's site and was told to look in the medical field due to some of the elements being radio active..
 

 We can certainly put pure titanium and titanium-palladium alloy into the medical field, titanium-antimony we can't.
 

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« Reply #5098 on: August 11, 2022, 05:37:45 PM »
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There's a 302 where a stewardess (her name is removed but the interview subject is described as a stewardess from Minnesota .... Tina? Alice Hancock?) requested permission to view the Facial Identification Catalog and "immediately" picked out number KK5-1 stating "that is him, except for the ears and hair." It goes on to say that she was adamant that the artist's sketch shown to her was not a good likeness of the hijacker.

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« Reply #5099 on: August 12, 2022, 03:50:20 PM »
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A lot more chatter in the Vortex than in the Zodiac community.
So do you think the Zodiac is solvable?  Also, re above sketch's, the unibomber is not in there.  That one was not very good either. Ted K.
I do believe that the Zodiac is solvable due to more physical evidence. I’ll say this:  I think the lack of chatter in the Zodiac case is due to a calm before the storm on the part of law enforcement rather than a cold case getting colder.

I watched the movie on the case some time back.  They seemed to believe they knew who he was?  Im not sure how many suspects but Im sure far less than in this Cooper craziness. So many false confessions.  But you do not see false confessions as often on a first degree murder rap.
The movie was based on a book from the 1980s about a suspect that the author had identified. The suspect was later cleared through multiple means including DNA. It's a great movie, but mostly fictionalized.

The case remains open and unsolved today.

Chaucer, you got it right and that is not an insult.  None of the Zodiac ciphers have been solved and may not be solveable.
First, two of the ciphers have been solved. I have posted multiple pieces of evidence in that regard in the past. It's not a debate. It's fact.

Second, the case itself remains unsolved despite two the four ciphers being cracked.

Chaucer, you are mistaken and that is not an insult either.  To solve a cipher you must first determine what constitutes the cipher and you and your friends have not done so.  Regardless of your claims about solving, you have not actually made it to the very first and mandatory step in solving the ciphers.
There are people who believe the moon landing was a hoax and Tupac is still alive, so there's room for all sorts in this world.

Such nonsense about the moon landing.  It really piss's me off.  Same type of idiots that believe Hitler made it out and all of these things.  Back to Cooper, I am sick of EU having his name all over these YouTube shows and yet, he pulls the History channel show that leans to McCoy.  The titanium could also be from the medical field could it not?  If you read this by some long shot EU, why dont you just put the McCoy/Cooper History show back up because it is a very good watch on his escape from Lewiburg and the skyjacking he did on I believe it was flight 855 from Denver to LA that he had land in SF.  You accuse others of trying to make this case fit their guy.  Yet you have a big problem with Gryder and his theory.  They may all be wrong. But at least we would have all the actual History in front of us. You are the only one with an agenda to pull that film.  You just sicken me.  I've seen phonies like you before. Smart, articulate and behind the scenes just a shark

The McCoy "History Channel" program was in fact an episode of the FBI Files, a Discovery network TV program.  This program still airs in reruns across the US, thus the episode may very well air again some day on traditional broadcast TV. It is much more likely that the copyright holders are the ones preventing the distribution of this program on the YouTube platform than Eric Ulis. Copyright blocking is a perfectly normal, reasonable, and benign explanation for why one is unable to find this episode YouTube.

Then why are they not blocking he others?