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« Reply #8325 on: November 14, 2021, 04:00:24 PM »
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I’m a fan of big prop driven aircraft. The C 124 was a BEAST. I don’t see a definite connection to Cooper but if he was a USAF loadmaster C 130, C 133 and C 124 were sure possibilities. A friend of mine was the youngest aircraft commander (left seat pilot) of a C 124 in the USAF. He was flying long distance supply missions to Vietnam and other places. He, like me, Snow, Georger and other “Vortexans” was a ham radio operator. He spent hours working ham radio contacts on his C 124’s Collins 618T HF radio. I spoke with him at length about paradrops from his C 124. He and his loadmaster took great pride in accurately delivering paratroopers to the military LZs. They did a lot of planning and last minute flight path corrections to get it right. If anyone has C 124 questions I can pass them on. He loved the plane but not the R 4360 28 cylinder radial engines. He often arrived on 3 engines.

Here is a website I composed about another huge USAF transport of that era, the C 133. Cal Taylor, the guy who literally wrote the book on the C 133 said that a few HALO jumps were made from these aircraft.

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Enjoy.

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I happened to slightly know a USAF pilot who flew big aircraft including the C133.  He said it was the most flexible aircraft that he ever flew.  He described a heavily loaded take-off from Dover AFB headed for Europe.  Shortly after take-off, the flexing got out of control to the point that he had to tell the controllers to stop talking to him while he got the airplane back under control.  He did get it back under control and made it to Europe.  But I believe that another C133 from Dover AFB and head to Europe encountered the same problem and ended up in the Atlantic just off the east coast.  After retiring from the USAF, the pilot I knew became a civilian test pilot on the B-1 NAA program and was killed in an accident while flying one of the early aircraft.   
 

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« Reply #8326 on: November 14, 2021, 04:08:38 PM »
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Bobby is trying to make Sheridans book my problem...

If you're having book problems I feel bad for you son
I got ninety-nine problems but a book ain't one

I got the rap patrol on the gat patrol
Foes that want to make sure my casket's closed

DB Forum critics that say he's got Cooper cash found
I'm from the hood, stupid, where'd you hear that around?

If you grew up with holes in your shoes,
You'd celebrate the minute you was publishing, too

I'm like, "Fuck critics" you can kiss my whole asshole
If you don't like my books, you can press fast forward

Got beef with Agent Carr if I don't play their show,
They don't read my books, well, I don't give a shit, so

DB Forums try and use my white ass
So advertisers can give 'em more cash for ads

I don't know what you take me as,
Or understand the intelligence that snowmman has.

I'm from rags to riches, PhDs I ain't dumb
I got ninety nine problems but a book ain't one, hit me

Ninety nine problems but a book ain't one
If you having book problems I feel bad for you son
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8327 on: November 14, 2021, 04:13:11 PM »
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I happened to slightly know a USAF pilot who flew big aircraft including the C133.  He said it was the most flexible aircraft that he ever flew.  He described a heavily loaded take-off from Dover AFB headed for Europe.  Shortly after take-off, the flexing got out of control to the point that he had to tell the controllers to stop talking to him while he got the airplane back under control.  He did get it back under control and made it to Europe.  But I believe that another C133 from Dover AFB and head to Europe encountered the same problem and ended up in the Atlantic just off the east coast.  After retiring from the USAF, the pilot I knew became a civilian test pilot on the B-1 NAA program and was killed in an accident while flying one of the early aircraft.   

In terms of ironic plane crashes, did you see this.
Glen de Vries pays to go up in SpaceX and lives.
Flying in a Cessna 172 less than a month later, crashes and dies.
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There you go, for risk assessments.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8328 on: November 14, 2021, 04:41:40 PM »
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I happened to slightly know a USAF pilot who flew big aircraft including the C133.  He said it was the most flexible aircraft that he ever flew.  He described a heavily loaded take-off from Dover AFB headed for Europe.  Shortly after take-off, the flexing got out of control to the point that he had to tell the controllers to stop talking to him while he got the airplane back under control.  He did get it back under control and made it to Europe.  But I believe that another C133 from Dover AFB and head to Europe encountered the same problem and ended up in the Atlantic just off the east coast.  After retiring from the USAF, the pilot I knew became a civilian test pilot on the B-1 NAA program and was killed in an accident while flying one of the early aircraft.   

In terms of ironic plane crashes, did you see this.
Glen de Vries pays to go up in SpaceX and lives.
Flying in a Cessna 172 less than a month later, crashes and dies.
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There you go, for risk assessments.

I did see that.  Every thing in this life involves risk.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8329 on: November 15, 2021, 03:39:38 PM »
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Bruce,

What version of your book is available in hardback, if any? Preferably a signed copy. I'd like to get one for my daughter. Not that she knows who Bruce Smith is, but I'll educate her...

No hard-back versions are available, yet. But soon, I hope, and I'll look into that possibility once we get the glitches sorted out at Amazon, which is having trouble getting the paperback version of the 3rd Edition ready for sale. Plus, the Kindle version was up an running last week and then got taken down over the weekend. Clearly something is amiss at Amazon. I'll have to call Jeff-ila B. and sort it out.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8330 on: November 15, 2021, 08:11:09 PM »
Problems at Amazon

For those interested in obtaining a copy of 3rd Edition of DB Cooper and the FBI:

The problems at Amazon continue concerning purchasing the book there. The problem seems to be the continued sale of the 2nd Edition, so I may have to discontinue that.

In the meantime, the 3rd Edition is available at Barnes and Noble:

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My publisher says that B&N has the same price and the same good service. "Amazon may mess up the listing in others way too. During such times, send folks to B&N. They never show it out of stock, as Amazon may, and they never show a price higher than the list price, which Amazon sometimes does, too."
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8331 on: November 15, 2021, 11:30:45 PM »
Can I trade in my 2nd Edition for a 3rd?  :rofl:
“Completely unhinged”
 
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8332 on: November 16, 2021, 12:37:57 AM »
Of course!

... for a slight fee....
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8333 on: November 16, 2021, 09:46:45 AM »
“In terms of ironic plane crashes, did you see this.
Glen de Vries pays to go up in SpaceX and lives.
Flying in a Cessna 172 less than a month later, crashes and dies.”

Ironic plane crashes abound.

X 15 pilot Scott Crossfield died in a Cessna 210 crash.
Reno Unlimited racer and acro pilot Freddy Cabana died in a Cessna 150 crash.
U2 pilot Gary Powers died in a traffic helicopter crash in CA.

Fate is the Hunter.

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8334 on: November 16, 2021, 11:43:14 PM »
Will masks be mandatory at CC21 ?
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8335 on: November 16, 2021, 11:44:42 PM »
I'm inclined to wear mine.

I'm also getting my Moderna booster tomorrow.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8336 on: November 18, 2021, 03:35:35 PM »
New Movie on DB Cooper

Academy Award winning producer Joey McFarland and his partner Dawn Bierschwal announced today that they are heading into production on a new DB Cooper movie, focusing extensively on the experiences of Tina Mucklow. The release is below:


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EXCLUSIVE: Amber Sealey has signed on to direct McFarland Entertainment’s Nod If You Understand, on the heels of the Tribeca-premiering No Man of God, which told the true story of Ted Bundy’s final days.

The thriller heading into production next year will tell the true story of the relationship between heroic NWA stewardess Tina Mucklow, the mysterious hijacker known as DB Cooper, and the only unsolved case of air piracy in the history of commercial aviation.

When Cooper boards NWA Flight 305 with a bomb on Thanksgiving Eve, 1971, Mucklow must cleverly negotiate his demands and the conflicting objectives of the FBI and airline, to save 42 lives. After extorting $200,000 in ransom and demanding the crew return him to the stormy skies with a series of very specific and life-threatening flying instructions, Cooper does the unthinkable, parachuting out of the aircraft with the money. Despite an extensive manhunt and FBI investigation, Cooper has never been located or identified. The incident not only marked the end of unfettered and uninspected airline travel, but also inspired a wave of violent hijackings that increased year after year – culminating into the events of September 11, 2001, and with effects still felt today.

November 24 of this year will mark the 50th anniversary of the hijacking. In order to be able to bring the story to the screen, Joey McFarland (Apple’s upcoming Emancipation) acquired the life rights of both Mucklow and Bill Rataczak, who co-piloted NWA Flight 305. Each is involved with the project as a consultant.

McFarland & Dawn Bierschwal penned the script, which draws on months of in-person interviews with Mucklow and Rataczak, as well as deep-dive research into FBI case files, witness testimonies, airline radio transcripts, and creative scouts to Oregon and Washington. McFarland and Bierschwal are also producing the upcoming film, with Mika Saito exec producing.

“I couldn’t be more thrilled to be directing this film. It’s a story that is both universal and extraordinary,” said Sealey. “Tina is just like one of us. The Hijacker is like no one we’ve ever known before or since. Together, we can’t take our eyes off their life-changing story.”

Added the director, “This hijacking is an important piece of US history, much obsessed over, and yet there are huge parts of the story that have never been shown before. The camera has never been pointed in the right direction, until now.”

 “Though DB Cooper is an incredibly enigmatic and fascinating figure, Tina Mucklow was the real hero that day,” said McFarland and Bierschwal in a joint statement. “She represents so many female heroes overlooked throughout history, and it’s time to correct that. With Amber Sealey, we couldn’t have a more powerful voice to tell this story.”

“After working exclusively with Joey and Dawn these past couple of years and now Amber, it’s my hope that the message that people will take away from this film is that everyone of us has more strength than we might think or imagine,” added Mucklow, “and they will come to realize – as so many others have learned and shared with us – that courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the ability to work in its presence and hopefully by the grace of God triumph over it.”

Sealey is an award-winning filmmaker best known for No Man of God, starring Luke Kirby and Elijah Wood. Like her upcoming Nod If You Understand, that critically acclaimed RLJE Films title looked to recontextualize the story of an infamous male criminal from a female perspective, countering past accounts through which he’s been mythologized.

Sealey has also previously directed films including No Light and No Land Anywhere, How to Cheat, A Plus D and How Does It Start, a short that premiered at the 2019 Sundance Film Festival. She has been selected for the AFI Directing Workshop for Women, the Film Independent Directing Lab, the NBC Universal Directors Initiative, Ryan Murphy’s Half Initiative, Film Independent’s Fast Track and the WeForShe’s DirectHer program, receiving additional support from the Sundance Institute and Women In Film.

McFarland Entertainment is an LA-based development and production company founded by award-winning writer-producer Joey McFarland. Nod If You Understand comes in the heels of the company’s first film outing with Emancipation, the Apple thriller directed by Antoine Fuqua and starring Will Smith, for which a premiere date has not yet been set. The concept for Emancipation came from McFarland, who spent years in research and development with screenwriter William Collage before he enlisted Fuqua and Smith.

Sealey is represented by Paradigm, MGMT Entertainment and Ramo Law. Joey McFarland and McFarland Entertainment are repped by attorney David Boyle. Bierschwal is with attorney Eric Feig.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8337 on: November 18, 2021, 04:26:35 PM »
A Real Witness to Norjak Comes Forward

Ground Search Veteran Max Roy reaches out to Cooper World via the Mountain News - 11. 18. 21

My name is Max Roy. I was an air crew member for Air Cavalry Troop of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment out of Ft. Lewis Washington from Sept. ’71 until June ’72.
The FBI hired my unit to search the terrain where they suspected Cooper had jumped for a 1500 sq. mi. triangle with our headquarters being at Lake Merwin State Park.
I am coming to your convention this weekend to perhaps reconnect with old unit members and to finally set straight that my old unit conducted the search operations and not the Washington Air National guard.
I would very much like a seat on a panel to do that and be a part of the documentary being shot.
Yours, Max Roy
Spec. 4 (Ret.)
U.S. Army
 

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« Reply #8338 on: November 18, 2021, 05:45:39 PM »
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New Movie on DB Cooper

Academy Award winning producer Joey McFarland and his partner Dawn Bierschwal announced today that they are heading into production on a new DB Cooper movie, focusing extensively on the experiences of Tina Mucklow. The release is below:


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EXCLUSIVE: Amber Sealey has signed on to direct McFarland Entertainment’s Nod If You Understand, on the heels of the Tribeca-premiering No Man of God, which told the true story of Ted Bundy’s final days.

The thriller heading into production next year will tell the true story of the relationship between heroic NWA stewardess Tina Mucklow, the mysterious hijacker known as DB Cooper, and the only unsolved case of air piracy in the history of commercial aviation.

When Cooper boards NWA Flight 305 with a bomb on Thanksgiving Eve, 1971, Mucklow must cleverly negotiate his demands and the conflicting objectives of the FBI and airline, to save 42 lives. After extorting $200,000 in ransom and demanding the crew return him to the stormy skies with a series of very specific and life-threatening flying instructions, Cooper does the unthinkable, parachuting out of the aircraft with the money. Despite an extensive manhunt and FBI investigation, Cooper has never been located or identified. The incident not only marked the end of unfettered and uninspected airline travel, but also inspired a wave of violent hijackings that increased year after year – culminating into the events of September 11, 2001, and with effects still felt today.

November 24 of this year will mark the 50th anniversary of the hijacking. In order to be able to bring the story to the screen, Joey McFarland (Apple’s upcoming Emancipation) acquired the life rights of both Mucklow and Bill Rataczak, who co-piloted NWA Flight 305. Each is involved with the project as a consultant.

McFarland & Dawn Bierschwal penned the script, which draws on months of in-person interviews with Mucklow and Rataczak, as well as deep-dive research into FBI case files, witness testimonies, airline radio transcripts, and creative scouts to Oregon and Washington. McFarland and Bierschwal are also producing the upcoming film, with Mika Saito exec producing.

“I couldn’t be more thrilled to be directing this film. It’s a story that is both universal and extraordinary,” said Sealey. “Tina is just like one of us. The Hijacker is like no one we’ve ever known before or since. Together, we can’t take our eyes off their life-changing story.”

Added the director, “This hijacking is an important piece of US history, much obsessed over, and yet there are huge parts of the story that have never been shown before. The camera has never been pointed in the right direction, until now.”

 “Though DB Cooper is an incredibly enigmatic and fascinating figure, Tina Mucklow was the real hero that day,” said McFarland and Bierschwal in a joint statement. “She represents so many female heroes overlooked throughout history, and it’s time to correct that. With Amber Sealey, we couldn’t have a more powerful voice to tell this story.”

“After working exclusively with Joey and Dawn these past couple of years and now Amber, it’s my hope that the message that people will take away from this film is that everyone of us has more strength than we might think or imagine,” added Mucklow, “and they will come to realize – as so many others have learned and shared with us – that courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the ability to work in its presence and hopefully by the grace of God triumph over it.”

Sealey is an award-winning filmmaker best known for No Man of God, starring Luke Kirby and Elijah Wood. Like her upcoming Nod If You Understand, that critically acclaimed RLJE Films title looked to recontextualize the story of an infamous male criminal from a female perspective, countering past accounts through which he’s been mythologized.

Sealey has also previously directed films including No Light and No Land Anywhere, How to Cheat, A Plus D and How Does It Start, a short that premiered at the 2019 Sundance Film Festival. She has been selected for the AFI Directing Workshop for Women, the Film Independent Directing Lab, the NBC Universal Directors Initiative, Ryan Murphy’s Half Initiative, Film Independent’s Fast Track and the WeForShe’s DirectHer program, receiving additional support from the Sundance Institute and Women In Film.

McFarland Entertainment is an LA-based development and production company founded by award-winning writer-producer Joey McFarland. Nod If You Understand comes in the heels of the company’s first film outing with Emancipation, the Apple thriller directed by Antoine Fuqua and starring Will Smith, for which a premiere date has not yet been set. The concept for Emancipation came from McFarland, who spent years in research and development with screenwriter William Collage before he enlisted Fuqua and Smith.

Sealey is represented by Paradigm, MGMT Entertainment and Ramo Law. Joey McFarland and McFarland Entertainment are repped by attorney David Boyle. Bierschwal is with attorney Eric Feig.

oh god. "female heroes"
I mean I think of myself as all progressive etc,

It's like Bruce Smith is the predictor of the future. (Bruce led with this "female hero" BS in his book)

I don't see the heroics. Cooper didn't want to kill anyone. I mean heroics has to be real risk, I believe. Not just overcoming personal fears.
Now if Cooper had the Swedish K he was given and told to use, and held it to someone's head and maybe sprayed a few rounds here and there, yeah maybe we could start talking heriocs.

Every kid is a winner on the soccer field today.
Every stewardess is a hero?
I mean, yeah stewardesses today are getting beat up for no reason by the crazy Trumpers and anti-mask folks.
Dealing  with that is heroics: there's emotional, verbal and physical abuse.

Where was the abuse in the Cooper case?
None.


 

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« Reply #8339 on: November 18, 2021, 06:31:06 PM »
Kind of interesting that Tina spends a lot of her life avoiding Cooper stuff, seemingly not wanting to be bothered or defined by it. Then she agrees to a feature film about her angle on it. Makes me wonder, does she have any kids?

Also, any rumors on who they're looking at to play her?