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Offline Bruce A. Smith

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2025 on: October 02, 2018, 04:51:53 PM »
That's been my experience trying to get anything out of Air America or Southern Air guys.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2026 on: October 28, 2018, 01:43:28 PM »
Hello all. Been a while but had to take a break from my research and manuscript. Back on the case lol
Have a question(s) about Alwood "Al" Lee: I've seen him described as the "Director of Flying" (FBI Statement) and "Ops Manager of Sea-Tac" (various places). What does a Director of Flying do? Is it the same duties as Ops Manager? Where they one and the same back then?
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2027 on: October 29, 2018, 02:18:26 AM »
It is my understanding that AL Lee was the NWO Ground Ops boss, while George Harrison was the NWO Flight Ops guy. What their specific duties were and how they differed, I don't know.

While we're discussing these two guys, Earl Cossey said that Al Lee contacted him at home for the back chutes, and George Harrison talked with Norman Hayden for his chutes.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2028 on: October 29, 2018, 09:56:15 PM »
Thank you Bruce. Never ran across anything in the FBI files were Lee contacted Cossey. Did I miss it or was it something Cossey relayed to you?
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2029 on: October 29, 2018, 10:29:11 PM »
David, do you have the Harrison files? they mention the chutes..
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2030 on: October 30, 2018, 12:00:19 AM »
Yes Shutter, I have the Harrison files. Great stuff. I remember the mention of the chutes but nothing about Lee contacting Cossey.
If my research is not mistaken, Cossey was the rigger.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2031 on: October 30, 2018, 04:20:53 AM »
Coss told me that Al Lee had contacted him directly on the day in question.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2032 on: November 03, 2018, 01:07:14 PM »
Reenactment of the flight the next night?
I have run across a couple of references stating that the FBI -with the same plan and crew- flew the exact route the next night (which would have been Thanksgiving). Specifically a newspaper article written in 1976. No where does the FBI files make reference to this. It is my understanding only the test drop flight the next year came close to reenacting the flight and jump.
Unless someone has info I don't, I'v gotta say the story is incorrect. 100% incorrect.
 
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2033 on: November 03, 2018, 04:26:57 PM »
Interesting tidbit, Dovid. Please keep looking.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2034 on: November 03, 2018, 09:08:23 PM »
I have a picture with everyone involved with the flight test. it also has the names on the pic..let me find it and I'll post it..
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2035 on: November 03, 2018, 09:17:05 PM »
Here it is...
 
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2036 on: November 25, 2018, 02:54:14 PM »
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Reenactment of the flight the next night?
I have run across a couple of references stating that the FBI -with the same plan and crew- flew the exact route the next night (which would have been Thanksgiving). Specifically a newspaper article written in 1976. No where does the FBI files make reference to this. It is my understanding only the test drop flight the next year came close to reenacting the flight and jump.
Unless someone has info I don't, I'v gotta say the story is incorrect. 100% incorrect.
My memory is fuzzy on next-day details, but wouldn't reports of a simulation the next night conflict with the feds stating that bad weather delayed the ground search for quite a while? If it's too bad for a ground search, it's too bad for a flight. But like I say, I don't remember much about when the weather supposedly cleared. There's still a certain amount of debate as to how bad the weather ever was. Bruce, I think you looked at that in a fair amount of detail.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2037 on: November 25, 2018, 04:27:49 PM »
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Reenactment of the flight the next night?
I have run across a couple of references stating that the FBI -with the same plan and crew- flew the exact route the next night (which would have been Thanksgiving). Specifically a newspaper article written in 1976. No where does the FBI files make reference to this. It is my understanding only the test drop flight the next year came close to reenacting the flight and jump.
Unless someone has info I don't, I'v gotta say the story is incorrect. 100% incorrect.
My memory is fuzzy on next-day details, but wouldn't reports of a simulation the next night conflict with the feds stating that bad weather delayed the ground search for quite a while? If it's too bad for a ground search, it's too bad for a flight. But like I say, I don't remember much about when the weather supposedly cleared. There's still a certain amount of debate as to how bad the weather ever was. Bruce, I think you looked at that in a fair amount of detail.

No. Weather is different in different places on the same day.

For example I am sitting ina raging blizzard with 13" on the ground. 16" 90 miles just south of me. WX in norhtern Iowa is no snow at all. Weather changes by zones. 
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2038 on: November 25, 2018, 06:40:34 PM »
I tend to agree with Georger. Weather is highly variable, especially in the PNW, and the reports of hellacious weather and fierce winds has to be considered as highly localized and not indicative of the overall weather through the area, and for the hours of the skyjacking.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2039 on: November 25, 2018, 07:09:46 PM »
Florida can have rain on one side of the highway and not the other. heavy storms can erupt a mile away while the sunshines a mile away.