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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Re: Tena Bar Money Find
« Reply #6225 on: August 12, 2021, 08:47:42 AM »
Sounds like it may be over 100 degrees up there in NW and Tena Bar next few days.  The fires out there are bad news.  I am with Palides recommending money for more water planes out there. 
 

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« Reply #6226 on: August 12, 2021, 05:24:43 PM »
Yup. It's getting toasty.

More water planes are needed, so thank you for your support on that front. However, we're gonna need a lot more than dowsers to save our collective asses. The entire forest ecosystem is under profound stress. Fire is just one element, although it presents the most imminent danger to humanity.

More troubling are the reports coming from "next door." The fires in Siberia are larger than all of the western USA fires combined, and their fire-fighting resources substantially less.

A little closer to home, British Columbia reported today that there are over 300 forest fires raging there. So, DB fan, y'all might be breathing their smoke before too long. Fortunately, we in Cooper Country have been blessed with two months of maritime breezes coming from the west. Good for us. Bad news for everyone else east of us.
 

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« Reply #6227 on: August 13, 2021, 02:10:22 AM »
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Yup. It's getting toasty.

More water planes are needed, so thank you for your support on that front. However, we're gonna need a lot more than dowsers to save our collective asses. The entire forest ecosystem is under profound stress. Fire is just one element, although it presents the most imminent danger to humanity.

More troubling are the reports coming from "next door." The fires in Siberia are larger than all of the western USA fires combined, and their fire-fighting resources substantially less.

A little closer to home, British Columbia reported today that there are over 300 forest fires raging there. So, DB fan, y'all might be breathing their smoke before too long. Fortunately, we in Cooper Country have been blessed with two months of maritime breezes coming from the west. Good for us. Bad news for everyone else east of us.

no conifer forests here - just corn and bean fields to keep the world fed. Had the Field of Dreams big league game at Dyersville tonight SOX (9) vs NYYanks (8). FOX broadcast it nationally. The whole State closed down to watch this! The whole thing was incredible - wonderful +++++. The baseball commissioner announced in the 6th 'we will do this again next year'! People went wild! Hopefully you guys can find some diversion and lots of rain soon! The whole nation is watching... take care.

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« Reply #6228 on: August 13, 2021, 04:29:08 AM »
I loved the game tonight, and having the Yankees in it only made it that much sweeter for me. I am a big fan of the movie, and I have been to Dyersville to see the field. In fact, I actually joined a pick-up game in progress and was with a bunch of Mormon missionaries. Got a hit and scored a run! Woo-Hoo!

I, too, tried eating some of the corn, raw. It wasn't too good. But in commemoration of Dyersville and the corn, I made corn fritters tonight - with frozen corn. It was delicious.
 
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« Reply #6229 on: August 13, 2021, 01:21:09 PM »
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I loved the game tonight, and having the Yankees in it only made it that much sweeter for me. I am a big fan of the movie, and I have been to Dyersville to see the field. In fact, I actually joined a pick-up game in progress and was with a bunch of Mormon missionaries. Got a hit and scored a run! Woo-Hoo!

I, too, tried eating some of the corn, raw. It wasn't too good. But in commemoration of Dyersville and the corn, I made corn fritters tonight - with frozen corn. It was delicious.

Add a little onion to those fritters...  :)
 

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« Reply #6230 on: August 13, 2021, 02:09:23 PM »
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I loved the game tonight, and having the Yankees in it only made it that much sweeter for me. I am a big fan of the movie, and I have been to Dyersville to see the field. In fact, I actually joined a pick-up game in progress and was with a bunch of Mormon missionaries. Got a hit and scored a run! Woo-Hoo!

I, too, tried eating some of the corn, raw. It wasn't too good. But in commemoration of Dyersville and the corn, I made corn fritters tonight - with frozen corn. It was delicious.

Iowans learn very quickly that we are part of a region - the Heartland composed of all the surrounding States (Mn, Ks, Mo, Il, Nb, Sd, etc). NWO of course was based in Minneapolis - when Tina told Cooper she was a resident of MN, Cooper commented: 'nice country'. That's interesting to me. I wonder if had had spent time in Iowa and what his Midwestern connections were, if any? His phonology and some of his grammatical constructions are Midwestern in origin. ?? Something brought NWO to Cooper's attention, somewhere. Right plane, right place, and right time ... in that order. There are things about this hijacking that  connect to Midwestern - Heartland values.     
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« Reply #6231 on: August 13, 2021, 03:03:19 PM »
I've never been to Iowa, but one of my favorite albums is "Iowa" by Slipknot

Also, this might be apropos of nothing but weren't his exact words that Minnesota was "nice country up there"? That indicates to me that he was from south of Minnesota and from a region that did not share its characteristics.
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« Reply #6232 on: August 13, 2021, 10:10:55 PM »
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I loved the game tonight, and having the Yankees in it only made it that much sweeter for me. I am a big fan of the movie, and I have been to Dyersville to see the field. In fact, I actually joined a pick-up game in progress and was with a bunch of Mormon missionaries. Got a hit and scored a run! Woo-Hoo!

I, too, tried eating some of the corn, raw. It wasn't too good. But in commemoration of Dyersville and the corn, I made corn fritters tonight - with frozen corn. It was delicious.

Add a little onion to those fritters...  :)

Great idea, G. Gonna try them soon, but tonight it's gonna real corn on the cob. Krogers had 4 ears for two bucks. And Big ones.
 

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« Reply #6233 on: August 14, 2021, 12:05:08 AM »
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I loved the game tonight, and having the Yankees in it only made it that much sweeter for me. I am a big fan of the movie, and I have been to Dyersville to see the field. In fact, I actually joined a pick-up game in progress and was with a bunch of Mormon missionaries. Got a hit and scored a run! Woo-Hoo!

I, too, tried eating some of the corn, raw. It wasn't too good. But in commemoration of Dyersville and the corn, I made corn fritters tonight - with frozen corn. It was delicious.

Add a little onion to those fritters...  :)

Great idea, G. Gonna try them soon, but tonight it's gonna real corn on the cob. Krogers had 4 ears for two bucks. And Big ones.

Dont go for the big ones. Prefer the slim or shorter ones ... the issue is tenderness and BIG corn is usually older-tougher-drier with thick shells that stick between your teeth...  you want gormet sweet corn to be tender, liquid, and melt in your mouth. Im not joking....  :)  Watch what the kids at the table say is good and easy to eat. That's the premium corn ... imho.  Fresh corn is best ... field straight to your table.
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« Reply #6234 on: August 15, 2021, 03:13:21 AM »
I concur, and the onions in the fritters were superb.
 

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« Reply #6235 on: August 15, 2021, 12:52:13 PM »
My DB Cooper group had a Facebook Live event with Brian Ingram for about 35 minutes yesterday--it is archived on the group site. The salient points were that the money was found as three separate packets, all on top of each other as if they were "thrown into a hole," and the packet Brian held--his parents held the other two--had brittle rubber band pieces fused to the front and back of the packet directly onto the correlating bills. Therefore, this confirms the packets were bound individually by at least one rubber band in the center.
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« Reply #6236 on: August 15, 2021, 01:00:50 PM »
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My DB Cooper group had a Facebook Live event with Brian Ingram for about 35 minutes yesterday--it is archived on the group site. The salient points were that the money was found as three separate packets, all on top of each other as if they were "thrown into a hole," and the packet Brian held--his parents held the other two--had brittle rubber band pieces fused to the front and back of the packet directly onto the correlating bills. Therefore, this confirms the packets were bound individually by at least one rubber band in the center.

If rubber band fragments were fused to the front and back directly onto the correlating bills, that seems to say there were no paper strap remnants between the bills and these rubber band fragments.

Although, given the poor state of the money, it might have been too much for a non-expert to distinguish strapping vs currency.
And then the evidence was severely compromised when they washed it off at home (leading to the rounded edges, since all fragile edges were washed off?)

Correct?

 

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« Reply #6237 on: August 15, 2021, 01:01:23 PM »
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I've never been to Iowa, but one of my favorite albums is "Iowa" by Slipknot

Also, this might be apropos of nothing but weren't his exact words that Minnesota was "nice country up there"? That indicates to me that he was from south of Minnesota and from a region that did not share its characteristics.

I was there a few weeks ago and will be leaving tomorrow to head there again for a job in Council Bluffs on Wednesday and then a quick job in Sergeant Bluffs on Thursday. I won't be listening to any Slipknot though, they're just not my thing. Maybe some Robert Earl Keen or Gordon Lightfoot though. What I really need is a good podcast to listen to. To the best of my knowledge, I've already heard most of the Cooper podcasts out there. I'm currently listening to a podcast called, "Algorithm". It's really good, but I'm all caught up. So, if anyone has any suggestions....
 
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Although, given the poor state of the money, it might have been too much for a non-expert to distinguish strapping vs currency.
And then the evidence was severely compromised when they washed it off at home (leading to the rounded edges, since all fragile edges were washed off?)

Correct?

That strikes me as unlikely given that the pictures I have seen with paper-strap-bound packets has the paper strap in the middle and a rubber band affixed near each edge. This deteriorated rubber band was in the middle apparently fused directly to the bill in front and the bill in the back.
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« Reply #6239 on: August 15, 2021, 02:09:18 PM »
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Although, given the poor state of the money, it might have been too much for a non-expert to distinguish strapping vs currency.
And then the evidence was severely compromised when they washed it off at home (leading to the rounded edges, since all fragile edges were washed off?)

Correct?

That strikes me as unlikely given that the pictures I have seen with paper-strap-bound packets has the paper strap in the middle and a rubber band affixed near each edge. This deteriorated rubber band was in the middle apparently fused directly to the bill in front and the bill in the back.

Okay. But all you're saying, is that if rubber bands secured Cooper money "somehow" there's no documentation of how they were secured.

There's lots of ways the rubber bands could have been on the Cooper money when it was delivered to cooper. Well there's probably just 4 reasonable variants.

Anyone saying they know, is just guessing. You could list a priority order, based on some assessment of issues around packaging the money that night.

For example, you could start with something saying "Why were any rubber bands used at all?"
And then decide, based on an assumption as to goal, how the rubber band(s) were oriented.

It's almost for sure, that the money was not stored in the bank vault solely with rubber bands, since they would deteriorate in the vault relatively quickly.

interesting to note there were 1934 and 1950 bills in the group delivered to Cooper. Made me wonder how long the money was in the bank vault. Probably varying amounts of time.