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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1560 on: February 23, 2018, 01:32:20 PM »
I've liked meeting fellow forum members in person. Met many at the Portland Forum and every encounter was fun and pleasant, no exceptions.

Jerry, who could get pretty cantankerous and confrontational on Dropzone, was as warm and friendly as could be. We talked a lot about Cooper's jump and the chances of his survival. Jerry had some points. I had some points. We respectfully agreed to disagree and had a good time discussing the case.

I had such a wonderful time at that event. I remain grateful to Grey for sponsoring it at what must have been a considerable expense.

I don't see any DBC movie being a box office hit, but I hope I am wrong and Blevins makes some money.

The History Channel Case Closed DBC video (both parts) is available as a download on Amazon in HD for a reasonable price.

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« Reply #1561 on: February 23, 2018, 03:11:56 PM »
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I've liked meeting fellow forum members in person. Met many at the Portland Forum and every encounter was fun and pleasant, no exceptions.

Jerry, who could get pretty cantankerous and confrontational on Dropzone, was as warm and friendly as could be. We talked a lot about Cooper's jump and the chances of his survival. Jerry had some points. I had some points. We respectfully agreed to disagree and had a good time discussing the case.

I had such a wonderful time at that event. I remain grateful to Grey for sponsoring it at what must have been a considerable expense.

I don't see any DBC movie being a box office hit, but I hope I am wrong and Blevins makes some money.

The History Channel Case Closed DBC video (both parts) is available as a download on Amazon in HD for a reasonable price.

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Throughout Blevins' years of posts about this, Blevins has stressed a movie deal. Blevins doesnt care about money or facts- its the deal and The Art of the Deal. FAME. His criticism of people here was that they were too "stupid" to see and turning down, the movie _ deal!

Blevins wants his name to go down in history as a serious Cooper researcher with the art of the deal. The deal. The lottery. The Cooper casino. It's the art of the deal ... who gives a fuck about facts or truth when there is a "deal" at stake!  :rofl: Money will come because of the deal, or it won't! Sweep everything else under the rug! It's "the deal" that matters. The movie "deal".  :D  Everyone and everything else is expendable, except Bev is now also decided to support the Poor, too. Which is the same as supporting himself. The move_deal.  :)

He says of people here, quote: they missed out on the deal.

Im going to the grocery store as soon as Im done with this - I think I will git me a corn casserole deal:rofl: To go along with the Gold Dirt movie deal thats starts at 7:00 tonight. Its the deal of the century.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1562 on: February 23, 2018, 07:34:24 PM »
"missed out on the deal"

Not at all..the producers and others know exactly how to get a hold of someone..he first stated 15 grand, then it was "up to 15 grand" if not mistaken, Bruce finally took him up on the offer only to have a flood of rules following the offer..I don't have any other words other than, he's full of shit..

I have dealt with producers just as others have..they have asked me to contact someone and if I couldn't, guess what, they found them..they all have research teams. 4 of the producers from The Learning channel are members here, so are producers from Atlas production..CBS, radio personalities are members here, as well as people from Homeland security..yep, they check out Cooper while working  C:-) colleges are members here, all sorts of people..

Robert is a very odd person..I've never had to deal with someone like him before..he will blast me for all sorts of things and turn right around and do the exact thing he claims to be against..even members (when he had them) complained..he held his own forum hostage trying to get me to lift the ban on him...when I would post on You Tube, he would reply soon after..I blocked his email, and he finds an opening through our website to contact me..I sent him an email showing the 302 where they checked the employee's to make sure he seen it..I got blasted for that since he was blocked, I told him he can block me when ever he wishes, but there was a reason I did it..when I was dealing with the producers I never said anything bad about him..he was brought up, but considered not relevant...Robert, will be the little school boy and tell them we are "bad people" and praise how he "warned them about us" all of this for going against his evidence, and catching him in some lies..almost 5 years dealing with him...
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1563 on: February 23, 2018, 07:48:08 PM »
Hopefully, nothing happens like this once they find all the error's in the KC saga   :rofl:


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« Reply #1564 on: February 24, 2018, 12:10:20 AM »
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"missed out on the deal"

Not at all..the producers and others know exactly how to get a hold of someone..he first stated 15 grand, then it was "up to 15 grand" if not mistaken, Bruce finally took him up on the offer only to have a flood of rules following the offer..I don't have any other words other than, he's full of shit..

I have dealt with producers just as others have..they have asked me to contact someone and if I couldn't, guess what, they found them..they all have research teams. 4 of the producers from The Learning channel are members here, so are producers from Atlas production..CBS, radio personalities are members here, as well as people from Homeland security..yep, they check out Cooper while working  C:-) colleges are members here, all sorts of people..

Robert is a very odd person..I've never had to deal with someone like him before..he will blast me for all sorts of things and turn right around and do the exact thing he claims to be against..even members (when he had them) complained..he held his own forum hostage trying to get me to lift the ban on him...when I would post on You Tube, he would reply soon after..I blocked his email, and he finds an opening through our website to contact me..I sent him an email showing the 302 where they checked the employee's to make sure he seen it..I got blasted for that since he was blocked, I told him he can block me when ever he wishes, but there was a reason I did it..when I was dealing with the producers I never said anything bad about him..he was brought up, but considered not relevant...Robert, will be the little school boy and tell them we are "bad people" and praise how he "warned them about us" all of this for going against his evidence, and catching him in some lies..almost 5 years dealing with him...

Anyone who would pay "RobertMBlevins" a single cent for any kind of rights to the KC book should be wearing a straight jacket and locked in a padded room.

Further, my exchanges with Blevins and Jo Weber are preserved for history on the DropZone web site in the original language, profanity included.  Those two and I probably exchanged at least a thousand posts on DZ.

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P.S., For the record, I was certified as being "sane enough" :) a number of decades ago as a prerequisite to being allowed to participate in a certain research program. :-X
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1565 on: February 24, 2018, 12:00:56 PM »
Even if I didn't know Blevins, I would have the same views I have today. it would be a very stupid idea to commit a crime where you work. contrary to what Mr. Blevins claims, they did look into the employee's..they even looked in Minnesota..

Kenny sounds and appears to be a normal person..lots of people are unhappy with there employment, very few commit any crimes other than stealing office supplies..he would look a little better leaving the company a year later, but he stayed for decades..it couldn't possible be as bad as Blevins has painted this...he did this with the apartment complex Kenny lived in prior to buying the house...it's in horrible shape today, so Robert took advantage of that implying Kenny had hit rock bottom..the problem is the complex was only a year old at the time...

Kenny was short, bald, and pale..a suntan will not fix the problem..Kenny is the same height as Tina..that's the nail in the coffin, anyway you look at it..

This story has become completely separate from the Cooper story..almost everything has been changed at Roberts will. the height, the complexion, the hair. he claims they never checked employee records. the bomb was not made the way the witnesses describe. we now must throw away the description of Cooper, it no longer fits the story.

The new DB Cooper

age - 35-60
height  5' 5" to 6' 1"
weight 140-195
Hair color brn, blk, blon,red (wore a toupee)
eye color brn, blk, green.
complexion..suntanned from Japan..

If you have seen this person, contact the FBI..never mind, they stopped looking for Cooper because Kenny is dead...more he changed with the story...
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« Reply #1566 on: February 24, 2018, 01:52:13 PM »
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Even if I didn't know Blevins, I would have the same views I have today. it would be a very stupid idea to commit a crime where you work. contrary to what Mr. Blevins claims, they did look into the employee's..they even looked in Minnesota..

Kenny sounds and appears to be a normal person..lots of people are unhappy with there employment, very few commit any crimes other than stealing office supplies..he would look a little better leaving the company a year later, but he stayed for decades..it couldn't possible be as bad as Blevins has painted this...he did this with the apartment complex Kenny lived in prior to buying the house...it's in horrible shape today, so Robert took advantage of that implying Kenny had hit rock bottom..the problem is the complex was only a year old at the time...

Kenny was short, bald, and pale..a suntan will not fix the problem..Kenny is the same height as Tina..that's the nail in the coffin, anyway you look at it..

This story has become completely separate from the Cooper story..almost everything has been changed at Roberts will. the height, the complexion, the hair. he claims they never checked employee records. the bomb was not made the way the witnesses describe. we now must throw away the description of Cooper, it no longer fits the story.

The new DB Cooper

age - 35-60
height  5' 5" to 6' 1"
weight 140-195
Hair color brn, blk, blon,red (wore a toupee)
eye color brn, blk, green.
complexion..suntanned from Japan..

If you have seen this person, contact the FBI..never mind, they stopped looking for Cooper because Kenny is dead...more he changed with the story...

When it was discovered that Blevins was concealing, exaggerating, changing, and even making up facts about Kenny - at that point Blevins' whole case against Kenny collapsed (a made up piece of nonsense). Just like Jo Weber and her story about her husband. These wannabe Cooper suspect promoters need to find a day job and get off the grift! It's a mental health issue with these people. 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1567 on: February 24, 2018, 02:35:50 PM »
Another 727 jump video. Exit whooshes clearly audible.

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« Reply #1568 on: February 24, 2018, 02:41:33 PM »
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Another 727 jump video. Exit whooshes clearly audible.

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I don't think this would be the case with Cooper, he was technically out of the plane..what registered on the gauges was the door movement...
 

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« Reply #1569 on: February 24, 2018, 03:56:31 PM »
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When it was discovered that Blevins was concealing, exaggerating, changing, and even making up facts about Kenny - at that point Blevins' whole case against Kenny collapsed (a made up piece of nonsense). Just like Jo Weber and her story about her husband. These wannabe Cooper suspect promoters need to find a day job and get off the grift! It's a mental health issue with these people.

It appears that the internet fills in the gaps of a lonely life..he's up at all hours of the night pounding away at the keyboard. he always feels he has to explain everything. the only times he's active is internet related..most of his stories are exaggerated to the fullest, or not even plausible. he constantly seeks attention & approval. he fits the description Carr gives about Cooper.."knows enough to get himself in trouble" or reads a few things about something and becomes an expert. his advise is horrible, as well as his predictions due to the lack of knowledge. he feels superior over everyone else..he has been on a 5 year mission trying to prove himself to us. acting like someone else online vs your real personality is troubling. that's why he disappears when events come around...the excuses pop up why he can't make it...falling down some stairs was classic. it takes a lot to stop me from going somewhere..I've went back to work walking out of the emergency room...we were working at a hospital and I was hit on the top of the head with a spring loaded rollup shutter..10 stitches and back to work...I've worked with a broken foot, and hand.

after 5 years he says he has learned his lesson..only time will tell..
 

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« Reply #1570 on: February 24, 2018, 05:52:09 PM »
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When it was discovered that Blevins was concealing, exaggerating, changing, and even making up facts about Kenny - at that point Blevins' whole case against Kenny collapsed (a made up piece of nonsense). Just like Jo Weber and her story about her husband. These wannabe Cooper suspect promoters need to find a day job and get off the grift! It's a mental health issue with these people.

It appears that the internet fills in the gaps of a lonely life..he's up at all hours of the night pounding away at the keyboard. he always feels he has to explain everything. the only times he's active is internet related..most of his stories are exaggerated to the fullest, or not even plausible. he constantly seeks attention & approval. he fits the description Carr gives about Cooper.."knows enough to get himself in trouble" or reads a few things about something and becomes an expert. his advise is horrible, as well as his predictions due to the lack of knowledge. he feels superior over everyone else..he has been on a 5 year mission trying to prove himself to us. acting like someone else online vs your real personality is troubling. that's why he disappears when events come around...the excuses pop up why he can't make it...falling down some stairs was classic. it takes a lot to stop me from going somewhere..I've went back to work walking out of the emergency room...we were working at a hospital and I was hit on the top of the head with a spring loaded rollup shutter..10 stitches and back to work...I've worked with a broken foot, and hand.

after 5 years he says he has learned his lesson..only time will tell..

My feeling is, an overall appraisal of a real Cooper suspect would only get stronger with every test, not weaker! Especially in the area of prints and dna. There might be some surprising differences in skills and background, maybe not. Someone was DB Cooper.

It may boil down to that.  :) 
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« Reply #1571 on: February 26, 2018, 12:57:08 PM »
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Another 727 jump video. Exit whooshes clearly audible.

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I don't think this would be the case with Cooper, he was technically out of the plane..what registered on the gauges was the door movement...

 I think you are probably correct Shutter, but we still don't know the exact mechanism which causes the whoosh. One person speculated it was a reflected wave from the exiting jumper hitting the slipstream. I am an EE, not an Aero E, so I can offer no expertise. No doubt the upward door movement caused a brief spike in cabin pressure, but might there have also been a separate pressure event when Cooper hit the slipstream? Occam and I think the observed pressure blip was registered when Cooper jumped. It's by far the most likely explanation.

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« Reply #1572 on: February 26, 2018, 12:58:45 PM »
Jo has renewed fervor about the letter codes proving Duane was Cooper. I cannot figure out what she is trying to say. Does anyone have the Cliff Notes on this latest claim?

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« Reply #1573 on: February 26, 2018, 02:00:33 PM »
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Jo has renewed fervor about the letter codes proving Duane was Cooper. I cannot figure out what she is trying to say. Does anyone have the Cliff Notes on this latest claim?

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Jo probably doesn't know what she is trying to say either.  But if she is claiming that those letter codes are suppose to refer to some military job title, then she is mistaken.  They don't.
 

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« Reply #1574 on: February 26, 2018, 08:33:00 PM »
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"missed out on the deal"

Not at all..the producers and others know exactly how to get a hold of someone..he first stated 15 grand, then it was "up to 15 grand" if not mistaken, Bruce finally took him up on the offer only to have a flood of rules following the offer..I don't have any other words other than, he's full of shit..

I have dealt with producers just as others have..they have asked me to contact someone and if I couldn't, guess what, they found them..they all have research teams. 4 of the producers from The Learning channel are members here, so are producers from Atlas production..CBS, radio personalities are members here, as well as people from Homeland security..yep, they check out Cooper while working  C:-) colleges are members here, all sorts of people..

Robert is a very odd person..I've never had to deal with someone like him before..he will blast me for all sorts of things and turn right around and do the exact thing he claims to be against..even members (when he had them) complained..he held his own forum hostage trying to get me to lift the ban on him...when I would post on You Tube, he would reply soon after..I blocked his email, and he finds an opening through our website to contact me..I sent him an email showing the 302 where they checked the employee's to make sure he seen it..I got blasted for that since he was blocked, I told him he can block me when ever he wishes, but there was a reason I did it..when I was dealing with the producers I never said anything bad about him..he was brought up, but considered not relevant...Robert, will be the little school boy and tell them we are "bad people" and praise how he "warned them about us" all of this for going against his evidence, and catching him in some lies..almost 5 years dealing with him...

Anyone who would pay "RobertMBlevins" a single cent for any kind of rights to the KC book should be wearing a straight jacket and locked in a padded room.

Further, my exchanges with Blevins and Jo Weber are preserved for history on the DropZone web site in the original language, profanity included.  Those two and I probably exchanged at least a thousand posts on DZ.

Robert99

P.S., For the record, I was certified as being "sane enough" :) a number of decades ago as a prerequisite to being allowed to participate in a certain research program. :-X
There's probably a Master's Thesis in Communications about the Phenomenology of D.B. Cooper Obsession waiting to be written, especially re: those who are 100% sold on a particular suspect. It's long been obvious KC wasn't Cooper, ditto Weber (and yes, IMHO, Rackstraw).  I see a few people on various comment threads and forums, including the comment section at TMN, developing their own new suspects now, which is awesome, but I do worry they'll get so hung up on one suspect that even if they're disproven, confirmation bias will park them permanently on a dead-end street. I think that is THE caveat before you go down this rabbit-hole.