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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3570 on: October 22, 2020, 02:57:49 PM »
The documents are from part 31 and on page 254 another document states the part is metal and was not missing from 305. so how did a metal plate from the stair assembly get in the woods? was from a 727...
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« Reply #3571 on: October 22, 2020, 03:11:31 PM »
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The documents are from part 31 and on page 254 another document states the part is metal and was not missing from 305. so how did a metal plate from the stair assembly get in the woods? was from a 727...

Apparently it was an exterior piece.
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« Reply #3572 on: October 22, 2020, 03:22:23 PM »
Anything on the outside of the aircraft would be noted as parts of the fuselage. no stair assembly would be exterior. that sounds like the skeletal part of the stairs.
 

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« Reply #3573 on: October 22, 2020, 03:39:36 PM »
I don't know. Is it from a 727? Could it be from airstairs that deploy directly from the fuselage similar to those used on the 737 airstairs?

Otherwise, how does a piece from inside the jet end up in the woods? It either came from 305, or someone brought the piece into the woods for target practice or something, it's a hoax, or 727s are flying around with their airstairs deployed and pieces of their airstairs regularly tear away and fall to the ground.
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« Reply #3574 on: October 22, 2020, 03:47:35 PM »
He works for Boeing, describes the part being from the stair assembly and coming off during flight. three days pass from the agents looking into the part and find it wasn't missing from the plane. it sounds like he told them were the piece goes. "describes certain technical information relating to the Boeing 727. I think they would all known if it was exterior the problem would never be solved as hundreds of them flew in that area. how it got there is unknown..this is in Boeings backyard..
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« Reply #3575 on: October 22, 2020, 03:56:46 PM »
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He works for Boeing, describes the part being from the stair assembly and coming off during flight. three days pass from the agents looking into the part and find it wasn't missing from the plane. it sounds like he told them were the piece goes. "describes certain technical information relating to the Boeing 727. I think they would all known if it was exterior the problem would never be solved as hundreds of them flew in that area. how it got there is unknown..this is in Boeings backyard..

Frankly, I think there's a better than not chance that the FBI F'd this up.

After all, how does the agent verify what was missing or not missing a year and a half after the flight? What documents did he review to determine what was replaced in Seattle after N467US arrived back on the 25th? They apparently completely missed the fact that the fiberglass panels went missing during the flight. What about some sort of metal clasps or something related to the panels, or stairs?

All I'm saying is that if the piece--whatever it is--came from inside the jet, it likely came from 305. In my mind the only alternatives are a hoax or someone stole a part from Boeing and dragged it into the woods for some reason and decided to leave it behind.

Unfortunately, the documents surrounding this metal piece are exceptionally thin on details per usual.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3576 on: October 22, 2020, 03:58:56 PM »
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All I'm saying is that if the piece--whatever it is--came from inside the jet, it likely came from 305. In my mind the only alternatives are a hoax or someone stole a part from Boeing and dragged it into the woods for some reason and decided to leave it behind

Couldn't the same be said for the placard uncovered in dense woods?
 

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« Reply #3577 on: October 22, 2020, 04:02:49 PM »

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Unfortunately, the documents surrounding this metal piece are exceptionally thin on details per usual.

Cinebar gives no actual location. doesn't describe the part. doesn't give much more detail than the others?
 

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« Reply #3578 on: October 22, 2020, 04:32:25 PM »
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Unfortunately, the documents surrounding this metal piece are exceptionally thin on details per usual.

Cinebar gives no actual location. doesn't describe the part. doesn't give much more detail than the others?

It states that a hunter found it while hunting near Cinebar which says a lot. Also we know the size of the piece. Finally, we know it came from the airstairs door.
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« Reply #3579 on: October 22, 2020, 04:34:16 PM »
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All I'm saying is that if the piece--whatever it is--came from inside the jet, it likely came from 305. In my mind the only alternatives are a hoax or someone stole a part from Boeing and dragged it into the woods for some reason and decided to leave it behind

Couldn't the same be said for the placard uncovered in dense woods?

We can assume that the placard is not a hoax because Hicks brought the piece into the authorities. Beyond that, yes it's theoretically possible someone from Boeing stole a placard and brought it into the woods and left it behind.
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« Reply #3580 on: October 22, 2020, 04:46:52 PM »
Visually having something is hardly grounds for not being a hoax if it's done right. a criminal does the samething trying to fool everyone and get away?
 

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« Reply #3581 on: October 22, 2020, 04:55:24 PM »
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It states that a hunter found it while hunting near Cinebar which says a lot. Also we know the size of the piece. Finally, we know it came from the airstairs door.

Doesn't say if it's partial. both documents state the rear stairs. one is more specific than the other by stating rear door assembly. both appear to be dismissed based on one thing or another. what if only one document surfaced about the stair assembly? we would be arguing it HAD to of come from 305? this is why I stress the word inconclusive.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3582 on: October 22, 2020, 04:59:10 PM »
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After all, how does the agent verify what was missing or not missing a year and a half after the flight? What documents did he review to determine what was replaced in Seattle after N467US arrived back on the 25th?.

Every mechanical 'incident' - every repair, replacement, or alteration, would be in the airplane's log books.
 

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« Reply #3583 on: October 22, 2020, 05:06:34 PM »
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After all, how does the agent verify what was missing or not missing a year and a half after the flight? What documents did he review to determine what was replaced in Seattle after N467US arrived back on the 25th?.

Every mechanical 'incident' - every repair, replacement, or alteration, would be in the airplane's log books.


Correct, but where would the documents be from a plane that was scrapped in the 90's?
 

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« Reply #3584 on: October 22, 2020, 05:16:23 PM »
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After all, how does the agent verify what was missing or not missing a year and a half after the flight? What documents did he review to determine what was replaced in Seattle after N467US arrived back on the 25th?.

Every mechanical 'incident' - every repair, replacement, or alteration, would be in the airplane's log books.


Correct, but where would the documents be from a plane that was scrapped in the 90's?

That I couldn't tell you. Possibly Northwest's archives? Was that plane ever sold to someone else? If the FBI was thorough they would have copies.

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