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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2021, 03:12:29 PM »
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I know there was a question on another thread about selling tickets to CooperCon 2021.

There will be a ticket price attached to the two-day conference portion of CooperCon--not the social events each evening starting on Friday, November 19th. I believe it will be $20 for both days total. In other words, $20 gets you a ticket good for both days.

The tickets will be available online through Kiggins' website, I believe starting this week. Also, I'll be launching a website this week which will direct people to the Kiggins' ticket portal.

Tickets will also be available at the door as was the case in 2018, but I wouldn't recommend it. After all, I expect a full house this year given the significance of the 50-year anniversary and that there will be a significant amount of media attention focused on the event--I believe even from the UK and Australia.

This year's event is only the beginning. My plan is to grow this into an annual week-long festival every November that celebrates the legends of the Pacific Northwest including Big Foot and purported "Flying Saucer" activity in the region. That said, DBC will serve as the primary thrust of CooperCon going forward and is intended to provide an experience that is festive, fun and informative.

Fer gawds sake EU, don't bring the big foot and flying saucer nutcases into the Cooper investigation!  Leave them in their own world.  Big foot and flying saucers have been thoroughly investigated and proven false.  This is not to say that there are some animals and fish that have never been identified or that all flying objects have been explained to the general public.  But just leave the nutcases in their own world.
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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2021, 04:17:31 PM »
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I know there was a question on another thread about selling tickets to CooperCon 2021.

There will be a ticket price attached to the two-day conference portion of CooperCon--not the social events each evening starting on Friday, November 19th. I believe it will be $20 for both days total. In other words, $20 gets you a ticket good for both days.

The tickets will be available online through Kiggins' website, I believe starting this week. Also, I'll be launching a website this week which will direct people to the Kiggins' ticket portal.

Tickets will also be available at the door as was the case in 2018, but I wouldn't recommend it. After all, I expect a full house this year given the significance of the 50-year anniversary and that there will be a significant amount of media attention focused on the event--I believe even from the UK and Australia.

This year's event is only the beginning. My plan is to grow this into an annual week-long festival every November that celebrates the legends of the Pacific Northwest including Big Foot and purported "Flying Saucer" activity in the region. That said, DBC will serve as the primary thrust of CooperCon going forward and is intended to provide an experience that is festive, fun and informative.

Fer gawds sake EU, don't bring the big foot and flying saucer nutcases into the Cooper investigation!  Leave them in their own world.  Big foot and flying saucers have been thoroughly investigated and proven false.  This is not to say that there are some animals and fish that have never been identified or that all flying objects have been explained to the general public.  But just leave the nutcases in their own world.

I think it adds value to the entire weekend having a panel discussion with experts on these Pacific Northwest legends too. I'm creating a festival with DB Cooper serving as the primary draw. But incorporating other PNW things--for example, featuring tables with local craft beers, wines, coffees, foods, etc., I think makes for an all around fun time. It's part of the reason the DB Cooper escape room experience will play a part too.
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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2021, 04:32:05 PM »
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I know there was a question on another thread about selling tickets to CooperCon 2021.

There will be a ticket price attached to the two-day conference portion of CooperCon--not the social events each evening starting on Friday, November 19th. I believe it will be $20 for both days total. In other words, $20 gets you a ticket good for both days.

The tickets will be available online through Kiggins' website, I believe starting this week. Also, I'll be launching a website this week which will direct people to the Kiggins' ticket portal.

Tickets will also be available at the door as was the case in 2018, but I wouldn't recommend it. After all, I expect a full house this year given the significance of the 50-year anniversary and that there will be a significant amount of media attention focused on the event--I believe even from the UK and Australia.

This year's event is only the beginning. My plan is to grow this into an annual week-long festival every November that celebrates the legends of the Pacific Northwest including Big Foot and purported "Flying Saucer" activity in the region. That said, DBC will serve as the primary thrust of CooperCon going forward and is intended to provide an experience that is festive, fun and informative.

Fer gawds sake EU, don't bring the big foot and flying saucer nutcases into the Cooper investigation!  Leave them in their own world.  Big foot and flying saucers have been thoroughly investigated and proven false.  This is not to say that there are some animals and fish that have never been identified or that all flying objects have been explained to the general public.  But just leave the nutcases in their own world.

I think it adds value to the entire weekend having a panel discussion with experts on these Pacific Northwest legends too. I'm creating a festival with DB Cooper serving as the primary draw. But incorporating other PNW things--for example, featuring tables with local craft beers, wines, coffees, foods, etc., I think makes for an all around fun time. It's part of the reason the DB Cooper escape room experience will play a part too.

The "other PNW things" are great.  But there are better and more ethical ways to earn a buck than propagating the big foot and flying saucer nonsense.

And as I have posted previously, if you really want to know what the (in)famous "Phoneix Lights" were, all you have to do is call AeroVironment in Simi Valley, California and tell them it is time to confess.  Their number is in the book.  If they haggle, tell them that Bruce Smith has talked to their founder, the late Dr. Paul McCready, in a seance and he (PM) directed you (EU) to make the call.  And the statute of limitations has probably already expired in any event.  Just make the call.
 

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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2021, 04:41:16 PM »
A Cryptozoologist is linked the the famous Youtube video's surrounding the letters and briefcase. a lot of the researchers in both Bigfoot and UFO's are far from "crackpots" . personally, I don't believe in Bigfoot but I can't say that with the evidence shown about UFO'S. especially commercial airline pilots and military pilots siting's and radar contacts.
 

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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2021, 06:41:35 PM »
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Fer gawds sake EU, don't bring the big foot and flying saucer nutcases into the Cooper investigation!  Leave them in their own world....


Too late, Robert. We're already here. In fact, we've been here for some time. For details, come to the Mountain News. I'll be posting my most recent insights shortly on my alien abduction experiences.

Ta da....
 
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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2021, 11:30:48 PM »
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Fer gawds sake EU, don't bring the big foot and flying saucer nutcases into the Cooper investigation!  Leave them in their own world....


Too late, Robert. We're already here. In fact, we've been here for some time. For details, come to the Mountain News. I'll be posting my most recent insights shortly on my alien abduction experiences.

Ta da....

Probably the result of a marketing study!  ;)  As EU says: 'this is economics 101'.   
 

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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2021, 10:58:45 AM »
Just had a lengthy conversation with Marla Wynn Cooper and can confirm that she will be attending and on stage at CC21.
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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2021, 12:59:47 PM »
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Just had a lengthy conversation with Marla Wynn Cooper and can confirm that she will be attending and on stage at CC21.

This is getting worse by the minute.
 

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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2021, 03:30:38 PM »
They can do anything they want at THEIR Coopercon21 - even Bigfoot, dancing bears and Marla, marijuana law discussion/debate, snow shoe demonstration, and more dancing bears and Marla, Area 51 presentation ... ! Followed by a fancy Campaign Donor Party -  $100k per ticket ?  EU already announced he is going to turn Coopercons into a NW Festival .... so they can market their Festival any way they want. Maybe a TV Production on the History channel is already planned ? But it's a marketing affair in any event - EU made that very clear.   

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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2021, 04:44:05 PM »
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They can do anything they want at THEIR Coopercon21 - even... dancing bears... and more dancing bears...

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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2021, 11:37:54 PM »
I’m stoked! And you can count on The Cooper Vortex to help spread the word!
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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2021, 11:45:30 PM »
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I’m stoked! And you can count on The Cooper Vortex to help spread the word!

It's going to be a lot of fun. I really enjoy talking with all the different people with questions and theories. Who knows, perhaps DB Cooper himself will show up.
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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2021, 05:46:38 PM »
(Sorry about the joke above, couldn't resist. Hopefully someone got a chuckle out of it.)

On a more serious note...

CooperCon sounds like an interesting affair. I wish I could attend. I would especially be interested in Mark Meltzer (377)'s and Marty Andrade's presentations. Hopefully you will video all the presentations/discussions and make them available at some point.

On reading of Andrade's presentation regarding the survivability of Cooper's jump, I reviewed that section of his book. I found it interesting and appropriate his comparison to WWII bailout statistics. Not sure if this is the appropriate place, but I would like to offer him a bit of info to consider:

You mention that Cooper jumped 'without a working reserve'. True, he did not have a 'second-chance' parachute, but it should be noted that the bailout rig he used IS a reserve. I believe the malfunction rate you cited was for sport main parachutes. Often, sport mains have design features meant for higher flight performance that introduce malfunction possibilities. Para-Commander type canopies, popular in those days, are a prime example of this. They are also packed by the user, 'in the field', often several times a day. The design and construction of Cooper's reserve-type parachute, plus the fact that it is inspected and packed by a licensed FAA rigger under the controlled environment of a rigging loft, would give it a malfunction rate much lower than that of a sport main.

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Eric, did you and your daughter make your jumps yet?
 
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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2021, 06:02:14 PM »
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(Sorry about the joke above, couldn't resist. Hopefully someone got a chuckle out of it.)

On a more serious note...

CooperCon sounds like an interesting affair. I wish I could attend. I would especially be interested in Mark Meltzer (377)'s and Marty Andrade's presentations. Hopefully you will video all the presentations/discussions and make them available at some point.

On reading of Andrade's presentation regarding the survivability of Cooper's jump, I reviewed that section of his book. I found it interesting and appropriate his comparison to WWII bailout statistics. Not sure if this is the appropriate place, but I would like to offer him a bit of info to consider:

You mention that Cooper jumped 'without a working reserve'. True, he did not have a 'second-chance' parachute, but it should be noted that the bailout rig he used IS a reserve. I believe the malfunction rate you cited was for sport main parachutes. Often, sport mains have design features meant for higher flight performance that introduce malfunction possibilities. Para-Commander type canopies, popular in those days, are a prime example of this. They are also packed by the user, 'in the field', often several times a day. The design and construction of Cooper's reserve-type parachute, plus the fact that it is inspected and packed by a licensed FAA rigger under the controlled environment of a rigging loft, would give it a malfunction rate much lower than that of a sport main.


377 sent me a lot of information a few years ago regarding these issues. Without digging into my files, I believe the mal rate he gave me was 5% for WWII canopies (which he believed showed some degree of user error as RAF numbers were higher than that. US mal rates were around 5%). I can't remember if that was for conicals or rounds. I'd definitely be interested in references to mal rates for emergency reserve parachutes. I have to revisit all this data and write a presentation, so if anyone has pertinent information I would be grateful.
 

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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2021, 06:10:28 PM »
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Eric, did you and your daughter make your jumps yet?

Yes we did jump on February 1st--my 55th birthday. We jumped from 13K feet. It was totally badass. I wasn't nervous at all. That said, the "swallow hard" moment was when they opened the door at 13K and suddenly you could hear and feel the rush of the cold air. It was at this moment when I thought, "Shit just got real."

The free fall was the best part--I could literally feel the temperature rising as we fell.

My daughter, who is 20, was a champ. No misgivings, just jumped. In fact, we're both going to jump on her birthday this July when we're in New England.
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