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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #255 on: November 24, 2021, 04:33:24 PM »
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This podcast is from an outfit known as "Death in the West," and they focus on the history of the west via true crime. Hence DBC and McCoy.

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The host is named Zach and I stole half his beer when he got up from our booth to head to the head before interviewing Bill Mitchell. He seems to have forgiven me.... BTW: Chatting with Bill was delightful. More details came forth from him:

1. He and many passengers did not move forward until final approach. He did see Tina bring the money aft.
2. Tina carried the money bag in front of her, clutching it with two hands and holding it torso-high. Bill did not see a hand-off from any men in the forward part of the plane as described by Finegold and MacPherson.
3. Bill did not see any "scuffle" or argumentation in mid-cabin as described in 302s and other passengers, such as MacPherson.
4. Currently, he is not looking at any pix of suspects, saying that it was too long ago and his memory is too fuzzy to be able to make such an important determination. He turned down a request from Ron and Pat Forman to take a look at Barb.
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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #256 on: November 24, 2021, 04:38:39 PM »
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Podcaster from CC21

This podcast is from an outfit known as "Death in the West," and they focus on the history of the west via true crime. Hence DBC and McCoy.

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The host is named Zach and I stole half his beer when he got up from our booth to head to the head before interviewing Bill Mitchell. He seems to have forgiven me.... BTW: Chatting with Bill was delightful. More details came forth from him:

1. He and many passengers did not move forward until final approach. He did see Tina bring the money aft.
2. Tina carried the money bag in front of her, clutching it with two hands and holding it torso-high. Bill did not see a hand-off from any men in the forward part of the plane as described by Finegold and MacPherson.
3. Bill did not see any "scuffle" or argumentation in mid-cabin as described in 302s and other passengers, such as MacPherson.
4. Currently, he is not looking at any pix of suspects, saying that it was too long ago and his memory is too fuzzy to be able to make such an important determination. He turned down a request from Ron and Pat Forman to take a look at Barb.

Bruce, did Ammerman make any comments about the long periods of silence in the ATC transcripts during the time he was the controller?
 

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Re: CooperCon 2021
« Reply #257 on: November 24, 2021, 04:53:46 PM »
Not that I heard.

Along those lines, Cliff said that he only spoke twice to 305 directly. Once when he took over the flight from the previous ATC, and the second time was when he asked 305 for identification as he prepared to hand them off to the ATC south of him.

Eric might know more as he spent a lot of time with Cliff on and off the stage.
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