Author Topic: Tena Bar Money Find (Read 1202846 times)

georger · « **Reply #2580 on:** January 27, 2017, 03:06:45 PM »

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Robert99 What you say adds nothing to the case study much like that of your friend Georger. Then we have Tom Kaye that can not follow the evidence on the tie to Boeing where we were the only ones using pure titanium in the 9-101 bldg to experiment with flame spraying the leading edges of the flying surfaces to have better temperature and abrasion resistance. That pure titanium on the tie pointed to not only the 9-101 bldg but to the Materials and Processes Lab on the ground floor north west corner of the building. Directly over the Lab on the 2nd floor was Sheridan Peterson's office and he had to pass by the scrap bins of the lab on the ground floor at least two times a day. If he looked into the bins (I am sure he did) his tie would have dropped in and picked-up dust particles of pure titanium. Tom fails to make the connection and has led his team away from the direct path to where DB Cooper worked at Boeing. Please stop being a nay-sayer.
Remember, the FBI does not want to solve the case now as I think they found Sheridan was CIA in Vietnam.
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Commodore, where were you in 1971-72-73 with your info ... when it might have mattered? Did you contact the FBI then?

Did you voice your suspicions about Sheridan with anyone prior to the 2008 DB Cooper media sensation ?

Janet called in her suspicions about the hijacking on the same day!

ps: He probably wont even reply!

Shutter · « **Reply #2581 on:** January 27, 2017, 07:16:14 PM »

sailshaw, keep in mind that you sound very similar to others who have a suspect in mind. one thing you all seem to agree on is the FBI not wanting to solve the case. I believe they tried, perhaps not hard enough in the last decade, but imagine all of the people similar to you telling them the same story about either the truth, or not wanting to solve the case. they probably got tired of hearing this, and have exhausted all the leads.

Robert Blevins....believes he solved the case..
Jo Weber.....believes she has solved the case.
Marla Cooper....believes she has solved the case.
diclemeg.....believes he has solved the case..
Galen Cook
Pat & Ron

Not to mention the ones we don't know about who claim they have all the answers.

I don't think we are even close enough to tell how the elements got on the tie.

This is how the FBI stands....

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As far as suspects are concerned, Ayn Dietrich of the FBI in a 2011 article, notes that all suspects to date are not D. B. Cooper. "She insists all the suspects still being touted by Cooper sleuths have been ruled out

IMO, you should be careful in casting stones...

377 · « **Reply #2582 on:** January 27, 2017, 07:33:45 PM »

Of course the FBI wants to solve NORJACK, even now. They just don't want to spend any more resources on it.

It remains the ONLY unsolved US skyjack case. That's a blemish the FBI would LOVE to repair. I have zero doubt about that.

The horizontal and vertical distribution of the currency shards, IF accurately observed and reported, rules out a T Bar plant. As much as I'd like to think Bryan was subtly led to the find by his Dad, that theory simply doesn't square with the shard field evidence.

I am not a dredge expert but I have seen pretty big rocks make it through sand dredges with not a single impact mark on them. Centrifugal pumps can move big items without impeller impact. Snowmman did a lot of research on this topic. It's on Dropzone.

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Shutter · « **Reply #2583 on:** January 27, 2017, 07:35:56 PM »

It's all suction..sure it can do damage, but I don't think it would "shred" everything..shredding is done in the office

Shutter · « **Reply #2584 on:** January 27, 2017, 07:38:11 PM »

Dave,
As a rule of thumb a dredge pump will pass a particle 60% the size of the discharge diameter (24” x 60% = 14” particle). A wiper or any screening device at the cutter can greatly affect the rule of thumb. If the money was bundled very tightly where it wouldn’t just blow apart then there is definitely a chance it made it through the pump. I have heard of acetylene bottles making it through a 30” dredge pump – go figure.

Bob Wetta
President / CEO
DSC Dredge

Shutter · « **Reply #2585 on:** January 27, 2017, 07:40:54 PM »

Dave,
Fascinating! DB is still at work. I think the wiper bar is just referring to a simple grate or bar across the suction end of the dredge to help keep it from sucking up large debris. It all depends on how close the bars were placed to basically screen the debris out as to whether the money could make it through. Then it would have to make it through the pump. Not sure if that is possible or not without more details. Hope this helps.

John Bryant
VP Business Development
River Sand Incorporated

These emails are a couple years old..and are listed on our website..

sailshaw · « **Reply #2586 on:** January 28, 2017, 10:30:38 AM »

Georger: You say "Commodore, where were you in 1971-72-73 with your info ... when it might have mattered? Did you contact the FBI then?
Did you voice your suspicions about Sheridan with anyone prior to the 2008 DB Cooper media sensation ?"

I would like to say: "In the first year after Norjak, the FBI visited my home and talked to my wife about Sheridan Peterson and as I was at work. Agent White asked for me to call him and he left his card. When I got home from work (at Boeing) and when my wife told me the FBI was asking about Sheridan Peterson, it hit me and caused me to realize that he was DB Cooper. I knew a lot about him from talking with him about one hour each day for a month (probably 30 hours total). He was very interesting and had done a lot of things but I did not put together that he was Cooper until Agent White showed up at our place. After I told Agent White that Sheridan had been after me as a Boeing Engineer to tell him how the 727 Aft Airstairs work. Finally, I suggested that he get a job at Boeing in the Manuals and Handbooks Group and he could get all he needed to know. I even told him that since Boeing had a freeze on hiring, he could go through the "Manpower Overload Company" and get hired as a contract employee. He did get the job at Boeing and I saw him there as his office was on the same floor as mine and just a few hundred feet North of mine. I told Agent White that I knew Sheridan had to be DB as he fit the case in all ways. The Agent said "he is one of our suspects". I kept waiting for the FBI to solve the case and nothing happened. Finally after 30 years of nothing I decided to try and help out the solution to the case. Anytime I found anything I passed it on to the Seattle FBI. Example, I found a full body photo in the Boeing files that was used to make the composite photo in the July 12, 1962 "Boeing News" to ask for people to join the Boeing Skydiving Club. That was the best photo (high resolution) that the FBI had of Sheridan. Still nothing happened. I suggested that the FBI get the DNA from under the envelop stamps and flaps of the four letters sent by DB Cooper just after Norjak. Still nothing happened. Then last year I found the FLAW in Sheridan's alibi that he was in Nepal delivering one of his two children. That was a lie to the FBI (a Federal Crime by its self) as he had no children born in Nepal n the same year as Norjak per public records from persopo.com. So what does the FBI do? They close the case. Sure looks like a cover-up by Curtis Eng. Why a cover-up? Possibly because Sheridan was working for the CIA in Vietnam "as was all those other guys (that were ex-smoke jumpers)".
So, does that explain why I waited for the FBI to do something?
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georger · « **Reply #2587 on:** January 28, 2017, 02:23:35 PM »

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Georger: You say "Commodore, where were you in 1971-72-73 with your info ... when it might have mattered? Did you contact the FBI then?
Did you voice your suspicions about Sheridan with anyone prior to the 2008 DB Cooper media sensation ?"

I would like to say: "In the first year after Norjak, the FBI visited my home and talked to my wife about Sheridan Peterson and as I was at work. Agent White asked for me to call him and he left his card. When I got home from work (at Boeing) and when my wife told me the FBI was asking about Sheridan Peterson, it hit me and caused me to realize that he was DB Cooper. I knew a lot about him from talking with him about one hour each day for a month (probably 30 hours total). He was very interesting and had done a lot of things but I did not put together that he was Cooper until Agent White showed up at our place. After I told Agent White that Sheridan had been after me as a Boeing Engineer to tell him how the 727 Aft Airstairs work. Finally, I suggested that he get a job at Boeing in the Manuals and Handbooks Group and he could get all he needed to know. I even told him that since Boeing had a freeze on hiring, he could go through the "Manpower Overload Company" and get hired as a contract employee. He did get the job at Boeing and I saw him there as his office was on the same floor as mine and just a few hundred feet North of mine. I told Agent White that I knew Sheridan had to be DB as he fit the case in all ways. The Agent said "he is one of our suspects". I kept waiting for the FBI to solve the case and nothing happened. Finally after 30 years of nothing I decided to try and help out the solution to the case. Anytime I found anything I passed it on to the Seattle FBI. Example, I found a full body photo in the Boeing files that was used to make the composite photo in the July 12, 1962 "Boeing News" to ask for people to join the Boeing Skydiving Club. That was the best photo (high resolution) that the FBI had of Sheridan. Still nothing happened. I suggested that the FBI get the DNA from under the envelop stamps and flaps of the four letters sent by DB Cooper just after Norjak. Still nothing happened. Then last year I found the FLAW in Sheridan's alibi that he was in Nepal delivering one of his two children. That was a lie to the FBI (a Federal Crime by its self) as he had no children born in Nepal n the same year as Norjak per public records from persopo.com. So what does the FBI do? They close the case. Sure looks like a cover-up by Curtis Eng. Why a cover-up? Possibly because Sheridan was working for the CIA in Vietnam "as was all those other guys (that were ex-smoke jumpers)".
So, does that explain why I waited for the FBI to do something?
Bob Sailshaw
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Good post! That explains the background - a fresh new account.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #2588 on:** January 28, 2017, 06:41:16 PM »

I agree.

Shutter · « **Reply #2589 on:** January 28, 2017, 10:32:29 PM »

I received my 1969 series one dollar bills today. these will be used for the test along with current bills. we still have a few things to iron out, but expect the testing to start by the end of next month. Caterpillar Island has been scouted, and a location has been found. Meyer Louie will be our field investigator. he will play a key role in this, so I'm very pleased that he has stepped up to the plate to make this project happen...

I'll be sending Meyer a package with items needed for the test, so we are getting closer to our goal in making this happen.

The samples will be checked every 3 months. Meyer will take photo's and they will be posted here, and on our website. lets hope we can unlock some of the mystery behind these bills...

Shutter

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #2590 on:** January 28, 2017, 10:38:15 PM »

Excellent.

dice · « **Reply #2591 on:** January 29, 2017, 09:36:50 PM »

Hey Mr Salishaw,
Regarding Peterson as Cooper... He did have the skills...but he is white as sliced wonder bread, with very light eyes atypical of northern Ireland. All witnesses said Cooper was olive complexion with very dark eyes. Unless he wore dark contacts and wore makeup, then it was not him.
And to Shutter, I suggest LeClair because he has the only suspect whose entire story fits, especially the newfound tie evidence. Have you read Gunther's bbok? If so, why do you believe LeClair should be eliminated?

sailshaw · « **Reply #2592 on:** January 30, 2017, 10:17:06 AM »

Hey Mr. diclemeg! You say "but he is white as sliced wonder bread, with very light eyes atypical of northern Ireland. All witnesses said Cooper was olive complexion with very dark eyes. "
I say "you are very wrong as in those days his skin was very olive like a person from Grease and we have talked about his blue eyes being covered by "cosmetic brown contact lens" as his only disguise and is why after showing his eye color to the first Flight Attendant up close, he covered his eyes for the remainder of time with his sun glasses. That way he could remove the contact lens for all but the first of the flight."

Sheridan may have lighter skin color now but before Norjak, it was very olive.

Bob Sailshaw
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Shutter · « **Reply #2593 on:** January 30, 2017, 12:36:12 PM »

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why do you believe LeClair should be eliminated?

can you quote me on this? I don't believe I gave any opinion.I have this morning asked questions regarding any verification..

dice · « **Reply #2594 on:** January 30, 2017, 05:25:49 PM »

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why do you believe LeClair should be eliminated?

can you quote me on this? I don't believe I gave any opinion.I have this morning asked questions regarding any verification..

Shutter, have you read up on LeClair and Gunther's book?

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