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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #150 on: May 12, 2014, 11:12:41 PM »
Georger:    good on you for calling out the KC bs.  btw, the guy's name is "Mike Fitzsimmons,"  of radio AM 970 Spokane.   He was interviewing me live that November afternoon in 2007 when he got Lyle on the phone and we literally took him apart.  Lyle stated,"I don't have a clue about KC being DD Cooper, I just decided it would make a great movie like Sleepless in Seattle."   i.e.....Lyle made it up.   But you know this from having communicated with Fitzsimmons, who happens to be an attorney, professor and talkshow broadcaster.   Skipp Porteous and Gray both know it too.  RMB piggybacked on the fake story for personal gain, but he knows nothing about the NORJAK case.  Weber is no different.  Jo made up a huge, meaningless story based on what Duane "supposedly" told her in his hospital room.  ie....no other ear witnesses.   The DZ entertains made-up stories with virtually no knowledge of NORJAK and no ability to investigate new claims.   But you already knew this, Georger.   
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #151 on: May 12, 2014, 11:21:54 PM »
Is there a copy of that interview anywhere? I've heard about this for years?
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #152 on: May 12, 2014, 11:41:19 PM »
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Georger:    good on you for calling out the KC bs.  btw, the guy's name is "Mike Fitzsimmons,"  of radio AM 970 Spokane.   He was interviewing me live that November afternoon in 2007 when he got Lyle on the phone and we literally took him apart.  Lyle stated,"I don't have a clue about KC being DD Cooper, I just decided it would make a great movie like Sleepless in Seattle."   i.e.....Lyle made it up.   But you know this from having communicated with Fitzsimmons, who happens to be an attorney, professor and talkshow broadcaster.   Skipp Porteous and Gray both know it too.  RMB piggybacked on the fake story for personal gain, but he knows nothing about the NORJAK case.  Weber is no different.  Jo made up a huge, meaningless story based on what Duane "supposedly" told her in his hospital room.  ie....no other ear witnesses.   The DZ entertains made-up stories with virtually no knowledge of NORJAK and no ability to investigate new claims.   But you already knew this, Georger.

RMB does not believe Lyle either.  He thinks Lyle doesn't know one way or the other.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #153 on: May 12, 2014, 11:45:12 PM »
I have read numerous articles of Lyle being quoted as to believing KC was Cooper......


KOMO news

Lyle Christansen is convinced, but there are still many skeptics. The mayor of Bonney Lake says if Lyle's story proves to be true, he'll have Kenny's house turned into a historical site.

while watching unsolved mysteries Lye said this....."That's my brother Kenny," Christiansen said to himself.

Since then, Christiansen has led a quixotic crusade to convince the FBI that Cooper was his brother, now dead. Like hundreds of others who have contacted the FBI at some point, Christiansen belongs to a cult of people who believe they know who committed, as the lead FBI investigator calls it, "the country's greatest mystery."

Agent Carr follows up...

While some involved with the case think Christiansen is onto something, the agent now leading the Cooper case isn't buying it.

"I'm sure he absolutely believes his brother is D.B. Cooper," said Larry Carr, who has been the lead investigator on the case for just over a year. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you."He's not a viable suspect," FBI spokeswoman Robbie Burroughs said.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #154 on: May 13, 2014, 06:16:18 AM »
Shutter, you could call the Mike Fitzsimmons Show in Spokane (970 AM radio) and ask them if they have the tape.  There were two interviews with Mike, but Lyle Christianson  appeared on the first show, early November 2007.   Lyle is a goof.  He came across as a bit of a scam artist and Mike Fitzsimmons took him to the shed under cross examination.  The entire KC story is made-up.  Skipp Porteous knows it and so does Geoff Gray.  The only one hanging on is Blevins.  Pretty sad.  But good for Georger, who pieced all the holes in Blevin's story.  Goerger has some pretty keen forensics background and understands how things fit together.  Nothing fits in the KC story.  Also, Georger is to be backed up with his prior assertions about Geoff Gray making negative comments towards Blevins.  It's true.  Gray spoke to me also and wanted to put huge distance between himself and Blevins.  No love there on the part of Gray.

 As for Jo Weber, the FBI has stated that Jo has absolutely no evidence, not even probative circumstantial evidence, on Duane.  Jo has been casting and spinning backstories of anything she can dredge up in her mind to make people listen to her.  Won't even go into the kinds of things the FBI believes Jo Weber is capable of.  All Jo has left is to try and create more dirt on people.   Jo has an extremely checkered past.  All kinds of things.  Don't want to use the word insane, or evil, but it seems many people believe this.  Just an old lady who is irrelevant, so she wants to bring a few down with her as she goes to the bottom.  The way it is with some folks.  The best thing would be for Jo to go into permanent mental health facility.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #155 on: May 13, 2014, 09:34:52 AM »
Thanks Coop. I noticed on DZ Robert finally showed part of KC's DD214, but it seems to be missing a page. It appears his occupation was a mail clerk if I'm reading it right. perhaps Robert99 could explain it better. the page missing is the important one that explains his occupation in detail.

Example below....
 

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« Reply #156 on: May 13, 2014, 10:08:16 AM »
Coop, PLEASE do me a favor and refrain from giving someone's mental status. I didn't read the entire post until now. I was reading two other websites during my last post about the DD214. I think we all understand your position with both posters.....
 

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« Reply #157 on: May 13, 2014, 12:35:36 PM »
The DD214 is something different from the Separation Qualification Record shown in the example.  And I think I have seen KC's DD214 on DZ and that it has been discussed at some length there.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #158 on: May 13, 2014, 12:48:15 PM »
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The DD214 is something different from the Separation Qualification Record shown in the example.  And I think I have seen KC's DD214 on DZ and that it has been discussed at some length there.

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I get confused here between the two. the report of separation on Kenny seems to have two pages correct? most of them I'm seeing have a page with the description of service broken down.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #159 on: May 13, 2014, 01:10:39 PM »
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The DD214 is something different from the Separation Qualification Record shown in the example.  And I think I have seen KC's DD214 on DZ and that it has been discussed at some length there.

Robert99


I get confused here between the two. the report of separation on Kenny seems to have two pages correct? most of them I'm seeing have a page with the description of service broken down.

The DD214 is actually only one page long.  There may have been other documents included with it in the DZ posting.  But the DD214 form is the most important piece of paper that an individual gets when separating from the Military.  Copies of the DD214 can also be obtained through the Veterans Administration since they also receive a copy of it, but there are probably some restrictions on that source.
 

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« Reply #160 on: May 13, 2014, 01:11:38 PM »
I didn't see the actual form on DZ. that was one of the problems with him. he posted what was seen on the separation form, but left out the part about the mail clerk position.

Enlisted Record and Report of Separation
Kenneth P Christiansen
R-3 Morris Minn
17 OCT 26
Date of Enlistment 25 May 44
Date of Entry into Active Service 18 Dec 44
17 141 033
T/5
Entry: Ft. Leavenworth
Service Outside Continental US and Return
Departure date: 15 Aug 45
Destination: APTO
Date of Arrival: 7 Sept 45
Date of Departure: 13 Sep 46
Destination: USA
Date of Arrival: 26 Sep 46
Parachutist's Badge
MKM M-1 rifle
Asiatic Pacific Theater Ribbon
Victory Medal
Good Conduct Medal
Army of Occupation Medal Japan
Reason for Separation: CONVN OF GOVTAR 615-365 RR1-1 DEMB 15 DEC 44 TWX WCL 23610 29JUN46
Lapel Button Issued
Two Overseas Bar
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #161 on: May 13, 2014, 04:07:31 PM »
Also, there appears to be no record of KC ever jumping during deployment.  He might have been trained during WW2, but lots of personnel were trained who never deployed.  Additionally, KC's jumps were all static line jumps, a far different kind of exit from that of DBC.   As for Mr. Blevins, I think Georger has his number.   Georger has pulled-apart the KC myth that Blevins is desperately trying to hang onto.  The FBI knows its all bullshit.  I think Georger has pulled the final stop on Blevins, although Blevins will try a bit more.  He has nothing else to do with his life.  And that is painfully obvious.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #162 on: May 13, 2014, 04:11:15 PM »
Shutter:   my mistake.  The Mike Fitzsimmons Show is on AM 920 in Spokane.  I believe the call sign is KXLA, or something close. Fitzsimmons would probably respond directly to an inquiry.  I know that he and Georger had some interesting communications about the KC bullshit story.  Georger will confirm this.
 

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« Reply #163 on: May 13, 2014, 04:29:06 PM »




Mike Fitzsimmons has been on the air in Spokane since 1974. He's been a radio and television news director for several local stations and is currently the host of KXLY 920 News Scope.

Mike is also a broadcasting instructor at Gonzaga University and had a long stint as an unlimited hydroplane racing announcer.

One of the outstanding accomplishments in Mike's broadcast career came in May, 1980, when he spent a marathon 56 hours on air reporting the Mt. St. Helens eruption and its effects on Eastern Washington.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #164 on: May 13, 2014, 04:33:21 PM »
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Georger:    good on you for calling out the KC bs.  btw, the guy's name is "Mike Fitzsimmons,"  of radio AM 970 Spokane.   He was interviewing me live that November afternoon in 2007 when he got Lyle on the phone and we literally took him apart.  Lyle stated,"I don't have a clue about KC being DD Cooper, I just decided it would make a great movie like Sleepless in Seattle."   i.e.....Lyle made it up.   But you know this from having communicated with Fitzsimmons, who happens to be an attorney, professor and talkshow broadcaster.   Skipp Porteous and Gray both know it too.  RMB piggybacked on the fake story for personal gain, but he knows nothing about the NORJAK case.  Weber is no different.  Jo made up a huge, meaningless story based on what Duane "supposedly" told her in his hospital room.  ie....no other ear witnesses.   The DZ entertains made-up stories with virtually no knowledge of NORJAK and no ability to investigate new claims.   But you already knew this, Georger.

Yes sorry - I keep calling him Simmons. Fact is Im nervous every time I go to DZ - fear retaliation - and am tired of all the personal attacks I get there. There are a couple of things I think need to be said so will post separately.