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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8670 on: April 20, 2022, 07:46:43 AM »
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Something in the Northwest Files are newspaper articles from immediately after the hijacking, and Cossey is quoted in these articles. He put himself center stage right away.

Yup. Coss "presented" himself to the FBI Seattle Office on Friday morning.

I'll have to revisit these files, but it looks like Cossey presented himself to the media the day after the hijacking...
 

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« Reply #8671 on: April 20, 2022, 09:48:37 AM »
Any pictures of Coss from around the time of the hijacking ?  Height and weight ?  Looks like he has blueish/grey eyes in the more recent pictures on the internet that were posted at the time of his murder.  Soft straight hair, not an olive complexion, no "marceled" hair.  Looks like he was ~29 years old in 1971.  Interesting/fascinating in an M. Night Shyamalan kind of way to contemplate him as Coop....
 

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« Reply #8672 on: April 20, 2022, 03:10:19 PM »
Did Cossey present himself voluntarily or was his presence requested by the F.B.I. ?
 

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« Reply #8673 on: April 20, 2022, 05:19:03 PM »
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Did Cossey present himself voluntarily or was his presence requested by the F.B.I. ?

Voluntarily. He was later hired as a consultant.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8674 on: April 20, 2022, 05:21:28 PM »
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Any pictures of Coss from around the time of the hijacking ?  Height and weight ?  Looks like he has blueish/grey eyes in the more recent pictures on the internet that were posted at the time of his murder.  Soft straight hair, not an olive complexion, no "marceled" hair.  Looks like he was ~29 years old in 1971.  Interesting/fascinating in an M. Night Shyamalan kind of way to contemplate him as Coop....

Coss was 71 when he died in 2013 according to the family. That puts him at 31-ish for the skyjacking.

I don't think he's DBC, but it's an interesting candidacy, and stopped me in my tracks when Bob Taylor made his accusation.
 
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8675 on: April 20, 2022, 06:12:12 PM »
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stay in your lane

You'd be surprised how wide my lane gets.

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Yeah, Dude Man - look around. LOTS of people believe stuff that others consider bogus. Haven't you heard - birds are fake news; they are all drones produced by the Deep State to monitor our conversations. Wake Up!
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Dude Man, maybe Rodney is a walking, talking participant of MK-Ultra. Maybe the CIA taught him to believe that he really is DB Cooper.

I thought my question was clear. Oh well, I tried...

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8676 on: April 21, 2022, 03:11:03 AM »
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... But short of a mental issue, how does one 'believe' a story that they know is not true?


Okay, Dude Man, I was having fun with ya, but now I'll give ya a more serious answer.

Yes, how does one believe a story that they know is not true. Mental illness probably plays a role, but how - eh?. I've got a few answers that might shed some light on that dynamic. One is Disassociative Identity Disorder, and that is a mental illness. However, in DID one personality believes the story and the other personalities do not, because it is not their reality. D.I.D. is real and it's real trippy to witness. None of the personalities look or act "crazy," necessarily, but they might. Perhaps Rodney Bonnifield has DID and tells his DB Cooper story in one of his personas.

#2. Rodney was always pictured in the film drinking a beer. I think it's fair to say he is an alcoholic. Maybe the alcohol has altered his neurological structures sufficiently to give him a kind of self-created psychosis, in which he sees himself being DB Cooper. In effect, he has imagined his life as DBC into being. He lives in a delusion; quite comfortably, too - probably staying drunk 24 hours a day to maintain the delusion.

#3. Another possibility is a quantum shift. Rodney wants to be DB Cooper so bad he has become DB Cooper. Most quantum physicists that I know would poo-poo this notion, but there is nothing in quantum theory that I know of that prevents such a manifestation. In fact, Rodney's reality shift into Cooper-ness may be produced as a very real functional aspect of the Many World Theory of Reality, which is espoused by most physicists. Ironically, the physicists believing the Many Worlds theory may not believe in some of the potential consequences of that theory - if it's real.

#4. A related dynamic may be sociopathy. Rodney may want to be famous so bad that he acts out the DB Cooper story to fulfill his inner desires. His compulsions may be so strong that the truth of who he is fades into meaningless-ness and he is able to shift into Cooper-ness and "act" as DB Cooper convincingly, just as sociopaths bamboozle their way through life. Similarly, maybe Rodney likes being a super-duper con man. Maybe he slides into Cooper-ness just to goof on people. Clearly the filmmakers are quite gullible, and maybe Rodney was having his kind of perverted fun.

#5. PTSD. Rodney's life may be filled with so much trauma that his mind retreats to the safety of being DB Cooper. It's a kind of psychosis, but real, certainly in terms of believing it.

Lastly, besides DB Cooper, everything else in Rodney's life - the thuggery, the women, the drugs, the violence - may all be untrue. Further, it could all be sourced to some of the above.

Lastly, lastly - looking at the majority of Russians these days, they believe Putin and believe all the destruction in Ukraine is fake, even when their family members call them from Ukraine and tell them the "reality" of what is going on. Such is the power of social conditioning. Hence, I think is is fair to say that propaganda works and that state-sponsored brain-washing is real. So is MKULTRA.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8677 on: April 21, 2022, 05:00:06 PM »
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... But short of a mental issue, how does one 'believe' a story that they know is not true?


Okay, Dude Man, I was having fun with ya, but now I'll give ya a more serious answer.

Yes, how does one believe a story that they know is not true. Mental illness probably plays a role, but how - eh?. I've got a few answers that might shed some light on that dynamic. One is Disassociative Identity Disorder, and that is a mental illness. However, in DID one personality believes the story and the other personalities do not, because it is not their reality. D.I.D. is real and it's real trippy to witness. None of the personalities look or act "crazy," necessarily, but they might. Perhaps Rodney Bonnifield has DID and tells his DB Cooper story in one of his personas.

#2. Rodney was always pictured in the film drinking a beer. I think it's fair to say he is an alcoholic. Maybe the alcohol has altered his neurological structures sufficiently to give him a kind of self-created psychosis, in which he sees himself being DB Cooper. In effect, he has imagined his life as DBC into being. He lives in a delusion; quite comfortably, too - probably staying drunk 24 hours a day to maintain the delusion.

#3. Another possibility is a quantum shift. Rodney wants to be DB Cooper so bad he has become DB Cooper. Most quantum physicists that I know would poo-poo this notion, but there is nothing in quantum theory that I know of that prevents such a manifestation. In fact, Rodney's reality shift into Cooper-ness may be produced as a very real functional aspect of the Many World Theory of Reality, which is espoused by most physicists. Ironically, the physicists believing the Many Worlds theory may not believe in some of the potential consequences of that theory - if it's real.

#4. A related dynamic may be sociopathy. Rodney may want to be famous so bad that he acts out the DB Cooper story to fulfill his inner desires. His compulsions may be so strong that the truth of who he is fades into meaningless-ness and he is able to shift into Cooper-ness and "act" as DB Cooper convincingly, just as sociopaths bamboozle their way through life. Similarly, maybe Rodney likes being a super-duper con man. Maybe he slides into Cooper-ness just to goof on people. Clearly the filmmakers are quite gullible, and maybe Rodney was having his kind of perverted fun.

#5. PTSD. Rodney's life may be filled with so much trauma that his mind retreats to the safety of being DB Cooper. It's a kind of psychosis, but real, certainly in terms of believing it.

Lastly, besides DB Cooper, everything else in Rodney's life - the thuggery, the women, the drugs, the violence - may all be untrue. Further, it could all be sourced to some of the above.

Lastly, lastly - looking at the majority of Russians these days, they believe Putin and believe all the destruction in Ukraine is fake, even when their family members call them from Ukraine and tell them the "reality" of what is going on. Such is the power of social conditioning. Hence, I think is is fair to say that propaganda works and that state-sponsored brain-washing is real. So is MKULTRA.

Bruce, I think you have a good point here.  You already know how I feel about such things as UFOs, "interdimensional beings" (whatever they are), "ascended masters" (whatever they are also), etc...  But some people are just plain "nuts".

I think this site could benefit from having a world-class Psychiatrist post here from time to time on what is going on between some peoples ears. :)
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #8678 on: April 21, 2022, 07:34:39 PM »
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Okay, Dude Man, I was having fun with ya, but now I'll give ya a more serious answer.

Well hey, I can appreciate a joke, I make plenty of them myself. My reply to snowmman was one. And I'm not sure I was looking for such a detailed response, maybe I was just making a statement, and the whole thing may have just been a matter of semantics. But my point was just about the nature of Rodney. You described a con man, a 'bullshit artist' who was passing himself off as Cooper. He may have researched his story well enough to be detailed and responsive about it, to the point of coming off as having a 'believable' story. But I was having trouble with the point of him actually 'believing' it himself. Obviously I haven't seen the film, and I don't know anything about Rodney other than what you have said about him, but my first guess would be that your possibility #4 is the most likely?
 

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« Reply #8679 on: April 22, 2022, 04:55:18 AM »
Yup. #4 is good.

One interesting story that may never get told is why the filmmakers never sought any corroboration of any of Rodney's storytelling. Their self-confidence, or arrogance, or trust in their own instincts is remarkable.
 

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« Reply #8680 on: April 22, 2022, 06:31:58 PM »
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Yup. #4 is good.

One interesting story that may never get told is why the filmmakers never sought any corroboration of any of Rodney's storytelling. Their self-confidence, or arrogance, or trust in their own instincts is remarkable.

Filmmakers can be an interesting lot. Certainly not all of them, but for many of them their primary concern is to create a piece of content that they think people will want to watch. Corroboration? Does it fit into the budget or the narrative? For some of them, 'truth' is completely irrelevant.
 

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« Reply #8681 on: April 22, 2022, 08:18:08 PM »
I paid the $16 to watch I am DB Cooper. If you can’t say something nice….

I wouldn’t recommend it.
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« Reply #8682 on: April 23, 2022, 04:52:19 AM »
I beat. It cost me $15.50. Senior discount.
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« Reply #8683 on: April 26, 2022, 09:14:59 AM »
Hey Bruce, you mentioned a month or so back that you may be getting an opportunity to interview Larry Carr aka Ckret.  Was thinking another question for consideration if you have time and think it worthy, would be to ask him about the witness description regarding olive skin/swarthy/Latin Features/American Indian vs just a white dude and what he thinks of or how the FBI interpreted that data ? 

I know from the 302s, that they certainly investigated Latin/Mexican sky diving clubs and also investigated American Indian suspects -- would be interested how strongly they felt about the ethnicity aspect.  Did the partial DNA sample yield an ethnicity component ?  I think someone on the forum, maybe Georger or Snow in the past, thought that the DNA test ordered had the ability to yield an ethnic profile? 
 

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« Reply #8684 on: April 26, 2022, 02:01:37 PM »
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ask him about the witness description regarding olive skin/swarthy/Latin Features/American Indian vs just a white dude and what he thinks of or how the FBI interpreted that data ? 

I second that notion. I've wondered this for quite some time