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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7950 on: April 12, 2021, 03:16:28 AM »
All blue-eyed people have one ancestor in common, born around 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. Blue eyes are caused by a gene mutation. ... The OCA2 gene determines how much brown pigment is in our eyes. The blue eye mutation is found on an entirely different gene called HERC2. HERC2 turns off OCA2, meaning it turns off the brown gene OCA2, to allow blue only.

Blue eyes are no accident but a specific genetic mutation!  Either Cooper has the mutation or he doesn't.  No profile with a HERC2 mutation even need be considered. If Cooper does not have the mutation then odds are at least one of his parent is non-European, and probably both. 

How did this mutation get its start? Possibly when humans migrated from Africa to Europe. This would explain why only people of European descent have blue eyes. It would also suggest that all blue-eyed people share a single European ancestor.

This basic genetic understanding is so well researched it is used in paternity law today, in Courts.  Sheridan Peterson would definitely have the blue eye HERC2 mutation and his parents would be European. Based on eye color alone and genetic science, Mr. Peterson could not be the person reported to have been DB Cooper. I have tried to tell EU this twice and he has rejected it wholesale. I suggest he consult his genetic expert.   

The only way out of this dead-end for Mr EU is to reject any and all genetic profiles the FBI may have for DB Cooper except those that indicate a HERC2 mutation. The contributor of that profile would obviously be a blue eyed person. In that case the FBI must also reject all witness testimony regarding Cooper's eye color! Since witnesses do not confirm Cooper was blue eyed,  it is highly unlikely Cooper had a HERC2 mutation or was purely European in origin irrespective of his lack on any detectable accent. It's EU against the evidence.  ;) 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7951 on: April 12, 2021, 08:08:19 AM »
GEORGER, here is the problem...Cooper wore these things called sunglasses.

Therefore, they cannot be certain what his eye color was. That is why they describe his eye color as "possibly brown."

It is also why the FBI traveled to Sheridan's home in 2003 to take a DNA sample to compare to DBC. You realize that they didn't do this just for the hell of it, right?

For those in denial let me be crystal clear: The FBI does not know what color DB Cooper's eyes were. Full stop.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7952 on: April 12, 2021, 01:20:10 PM »
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GEORGER, here is the problem...Cooper wore these things called sunglasses.

Therefore, they cannot be certain what his eye color was. That is why they describe his eye color as "possibly brown."

It is also why the FBI traveled to Sheridan's home in 2003 to take a DNA sample to compare to DBC. You realize that they didn't do this just for the hell of it, right?

For those in denial let me be crystal clear: The FBI does not know what color DB Cooper's eyes were. Full stop.

EU says FULL STOP! Meaning: EU will arrange his cards however he wants. FULL STOP!

RIGGED GAME!

At least he isnt arguing with the science, for a change.  :rofl:

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7953 on: April 12, 2021, 01:45:43 PM »
I don't have the document surrounding the eye's "possibly brown" but can assume they were in that field of color. Flo seen him without glasses and it's hard to swallow mixing blue with brown or dark colored eye's. if they were not sure the wanted posters would say unknown.

Flyjack posted this surrounding the DNA and Sheridan
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Sheridan Peterson was DNA tested in 2004.
Here, in 2008, The Deputy Assistant Director stated..
"To date, only a few of the original suspect pool have been included in the DNA Project for comparison with negatives."
Essentially, in 2008, all suspect DNA testing was negative.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7954 on: April 12, 2021, 01:55:45 PM »
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I don't have the document surrounding the eye's "possibly brown" but can assume they were in that field of color. Flo seen him without glasses and it's hard to swallow mixing blue with brown or dark colored eye's. if they were not sure the wanted posters would say unknown.

Flyjack posted this surrounding the DNA and Sheridan
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Sheridan Peterson was DNA tested in 2004.
Here, in 2008, The Deputy Assistant Director stated..
"To date, only a few of the original suspect pool have been included in the DNA Project for comparison with negatives."
Essentially, in 2008, all suspect DNA testing was negative.

The above quote does not mention who was tested and came back negative. In fact, there is nothing in the FBI files that even mentions Sheridan and DNA, yet we know they got his.

So hold your horses.We will see. I will be receiving the specific results for Sheridan and that will settle it.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7955 on: April 12, 2021, 01:57:31 PM »
All the suspects tested for DNA were negative? we don't have all the files...

DB Cooper file 21966...not sure what part
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7956 on: April 12, 2021, 02:18:45 PM »
Again, you have to be very careful to assume who or who had not been tested and analyzed by that time. There may well have been some that had not yet been analyzed.

Remember, the case was closed in 2016 based in part upon a piece of evidence--presumably from LD Cooper--coming back negative. That's five years after he first became a suspect. This stuff takes a lot of time.

All of that said, I'm waiting on the document that will settle the matter once and for all. You're not actually telling me I should just forget about it because of some random and vague summary file from 2008, are you?

I realize it would pain a lot of people if the results came back, "Sheridan matches the locations we have." But the truth is the truth. We will see. Stay tuned.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7957 on: April 12, 2021, 02:24:19 PM »
LD wasn't in the pool of suspects in 2006 or any date previous to that date. this document dates 2008. LD is not relevant to that document. surely they would include ongoing investigations or still some to be eliminated..
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« Reply #7958 on: April 12, 2021, 02:32:48 PM »
"To date, only a few of the original suspect pool have been included in the DNA project for comparison with negatives"

No pending
No investigations incomplete..
Negative results as of 2008..
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7959 on: April 12, 2021, 03:56:49 PM »
Regardless of anything else, it will be good to get this DNA documentation. At least then, perhaps, the extent of the sample found on the tie will be known.
 

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« Reply #7960 on: April 12, 2021, 04:38:50 PM »
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Again, you have to be very careful to assume who or who had not been tested and analyzed by that time. There may well have been some that had not yet been analyzed.

Remember, the case was closed in 2016 based in part upon a piece of evidence--presumably from LD Cooper--coming back negative. That's five years after he first became a suspect. This stuff takes a lot of time.

All of that said, I'm waiting on the document that will settle the matter once and for all. You're not actually telling me I should just forget about it because of some random and vague summary file from 2008, are you?

I realize it would pain a lot of people if the results came back, "Sheridan matches the locations we have." But the truth is the truth. We will see. Stay tuned.

You are obviously biased and you dont know what you are talking about.  I realize it would pain a lot of people if the results came back, "Sheridan matches the locations we have." But the truth is the truth. We will see. Stay tuned.

You keep saying: Sheridan matches the locations we have. which is meaningless.  There are no "locations".

There is no point to trying to explain this to you. Your words indicate the direction you are going and the level of your understanding. Look at the attached, which will be meaningless to you because you are stuck on the word "locations". You simply dont understand the mechanics of how this works and what it is. All any spectator can do is wait and watch how far you take this .... into the ozone. 
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7961 on: April 12, 2021, 05:51:08 PM »
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All blue-eyed people have one ancestor in common, born around 6,000 to 10,000 years ago.

Ahh, so that guy DID know what it's like.



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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7962 on: April 12, 2021, 06:12:42 PM »
Dudeman, I seen your response on the Amboy chute. different stories have come out surrounding the chute find. nobody has ever been able to locate the people who found the chute. I started believing it was possibly a publicity stunt to get the public interest back into the case. that was one of Carr's goals often repeated..watch the video and a new story is born...

No, I don't believe it was Cooper's...

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« Reply #7963 on: April 12, 2021, 07:11:34 PM »
Didn’t someone in the Vortex (Bruce? Blevins?) claim they identified the location of the chute find? Didn’t they speak to the homeowners who were less than enthusiastic about talking about it?

Or am I misremembering?
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« Reply #7964 on: April 12, 2021, 07:40:24 PM »
Bruce spoke with multiple people, including Donna from the Ariel tavern and none of the leads panned out. everyone seems to know where it is but when checked it becomes a dead end...