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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2015, 06:48:35 PM »
Grayling, Michigan, had a population of 2143 in 1970, compared to today's population of 1863.  It's a small town, centrally located in the northern part of Michigan's lower peninsula.  The closest decent sized city is Grand Rapids, Michigan, which is about 150 miles from Grayling.  Detroit is a little over 200 miles away.
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #61 on: January 31, 2015, 10:34:48 AM »
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Hey Wrecks! What is this ka-ka you wrote about me? And you expect us to take your suspect seriously? I think you have been watching too much of the lower channels on TV. Just remember "kid" - you don't know me from Adam, or Isabelle either!


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Robert, I find the amount of posts Georger writes about you a little alarming. It seems like he's venting, and usually people work out their frustrations that way and everything blows over.

On the other hand, a small percentage of people with this amount of contempt toward a fellow human being act out and do something physically. I would hate to see you in your underwear, tied up with zip ties in Georger's basement with a ball gag in your mouth like in the scene from that movie "Pulp Fiction". I don't think anyone wants to see that.

I can see pros and cons for both websites, and I think both need to exist. This website seems to be dominated by a couple individuals who do a lot of talking, but never say much. That doesn't leave much room for forward thinking and innovative communication.

The other site has it's limitations also, but I do like some of the theories and information that are put forth there.

That being said, Robert, I do look forward to hearing the outcome of your latest report. At least you're doing something. I would be more than happy to buy you a steak dinner if you're right about Mr. Christiansen. I've been plenty wrong about things in the past and have no problem admitting when I am.

Good luck!

RR


Georger,
Is this a personal attack on me?  What do you mean by calling me "Kid"?  I hope you're not being a Hate Monger!  I'm trying to thaw out here in sunny Florida and want to send warm positive vibes to all, including you.  Please let me know how we can make this happen.
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #62 on: January 31, 2015, 12:40:16 PM »
Where are you in Florida?


Yes, I hope you guys can resolve any issues at hand. we must function as a group.
 

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #63 on: January 31, 2015, 07:51:14 PM »
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Where are you in Florida?


Yes, I hope you guys can resolve any issues at hand. we must function as a group.
I've been all over the place.  Port St. Lucie, Pomona Park, Bell and Tampa tomorrow.  I like to keep moving because a moving target is harder to hit.  Where abouts are you?  Isn't Jo around here somewhere?
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #64 on: January 31, 2015, 07:56:05 PM »
Jo is up in the panhandle. I'm down in Fort Lauderdale  :D
 

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2015, 08:10:19 PM »
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Jo is up in the panhandle. I'm down in Fort Lauderdale  :D

I gotta tell ya, I'm loving your weather!  I was in Boca for a bit Sunday, not far from your locale, if I'm not mistaken.  This shot of warm weather really breaks up the 10 months of winter we get up north!  I'm scheduled to do an ice dive when I get back.  It's hard to get motivated for that after hanging out in the sunshine.
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2015, 08:13:23 PM »
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I gotta tell ya, I'm loving your weather!

Glad you are enjoying the weather. working outside I can also appreciate the weather, but I'll confess it's been cold for me a couple days back. you just get use to the weather down here, and drops in temps are felt. people from up north laugh at this
but that's what happens after you are here a couple years  :D
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Last known photograph of Dick Lepsy
« Reply #67 on: February 27, 2015, 08:38:41 PM »
Below is the last known photograph of missing person Dick Lepsy.  The photo was taken at his little sister's wedding in Chicago, in September of 1969.  Lepsy disappeared just two months later on October 29, 1969.  Lepsy is seated next to his wife, Jackie.  Though Lepsy was only 33 years old in this photo, many people have stated that he appears to be a man in his forties.

Lepsy was 6 feet tall and weighed around 180 pounds.  He had black hair and brown eyes.  He was rumored to be in Mexico during around the time of the Cooper skyjacking.  He has not been seen or heard from since.
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2015, 11:23:39 PM »
If Dick were ten years older at the time of the hijacking, I'd be freaking the hell out about him because look at this photoshop I made of Dick's eyes placed above Comp B's eyes. FREAKY. Both sets of eyes have heavy lids, are spaced wide apart and are a bit wonk.

I'll also admit that in that "last picture" of Dick I would have guessed that he were a man in his 40's. Also, he has a very distinct "turkey gobble" and is undashing enough to be labeled a "geek" by Mitchell. His complexion fits too.

I have a really hard time with the age discrepancy, but he fits the bill in so many other ways, especially with the height. You can certainly tell Lepsy was a tall man.

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #69 on: March 08, 2015, 10:01:46 PM »
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If Dick were ten years older at the time of the hijacking, I'd be freaking the hell out about him because look at this photoshop I made of Dick's eyes placed above Comp B's eyes. FREAKY. Both sets of eyes have heavy lids, are spaced wide apart and are a bit wonk.

I'll also admit that in that "last picture" of Dick I would have guessed that he were a man in his 40's. Also, he has a very distinct "turkey gobble" and is undashing enough to be labeled a "geek" by Mitchell. His complexion fits too.

I have a really hard time with the age discrepancy, but he fits the bill in so many other ways, especially with the height. You can certainly tell Lepsy was a tall man.
Hello "Olemisscub"!  Good to hear your opinion, you seem very knowledgeable  You are correct about the age discrepancy.  Lepsy would have been 35 years old at the time of the skyjacking and Mitchell pegs the Cooper suspect's age at 40.  It seems every "suspect" has some attribute that differs from the eyewitness descriptions: Lespy's too young, Wilson has blue eyes, Christainsen is too short, Weber ears are too big, etc., etc.

It sounds like you have some law enforcement experience, as well as experience in the court system.  You are probably more familiar than most with the latest trends in solving cold case, missing person cases.  This is an exciting time, as in the past couple years, many cases that were considered almost "unsolvable" are being solved because of DNA testing and "websleuthing" via websites like NAMUS.  I very much doubt these trends are going to spill over into this case anytime soon, but hopefully, 10 or 20 years from now, DNA tests on all viable suspects will tell us at the least, who the Cooper suspect wasn't.

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #70 on: March 08, 2015, 10:41:30 PM »
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It sounds like you have some law enforcement experience, as well as experience in the court system.  You are probably more familiar than most with the latest trends in solving cold case, missing person cases.  This is an exciting time, as in the past couple years, many cases that were considered almost "unsolvable" are being solved because of DNA testing and "websleuthing" via websites like NAMUS.  I very much doubt these trends are going to spill over into this case anytime soon, but hopefully, 10 or 20 years from now, DNA tests on all viable suspects will tell us at the least, who the Cooper suspect wasn't.

Yes, it's a good time to be in law enforcement, that's for sure. Now, if we can just get cops to all wear bodycams, it'll be great!

The only downfall with advances in criminal science it is harder and harder to get a conviction on someone because of what we call "the CSI effect". Jury members sometimes will just refuse to convict if there isn't DNA. Some cases were so obvious (no alibi, clear motive, a dozen eye witnesses) that we didn't even attempt to send off potential DNA evidence to the crimelab and it came back to bite us because one or two people on the jury (must be unanimous decision in criminal cases) won't convict unless there is DNA. It's silly. Nevertheless, on the whole, it is a WONDERFUL thing, especially as applied by groups like the Innocence Project, etc., because often times you are freeing an innocent man while at the same time catching the bad guy.

Concerning DB, I think there needs to be more of a focus on missing persons from that time period like Lepsy or Wilson, because there is obviously a very good chance that DB fell to his death.

About Lepsy specifically, I keep going back to his eyes. Those lazy eyelids are a definite feature. Also, I just did a blind test with my wife with that picture of DB at the wedding and she would have guessed early 40's. She was quite surprised when I said 33.

Another thing about Lepsy: Did he have any criminal background at all? I guess disappearing in the first place is suspicious behavior (assuming he wasn't kidnapped).

Something else: The sketch that was released in the 80's by Flo has the hijacker with a widow's peak. That is something that Comp's A&B do not have. In a few of the pics of Lepsy where his head is facing down you can see a bit of a widow's peak with his hairline. Just a thought.
 

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #71 on: March 08, 2015, 10:53:30 PM »
I'm wondering how crooked his front teeth were? the missing person file claims he had two crooked teeth. Tina sat right next to Cooper for a longtime, but never mentioned anything out of the ordinary with his teeth.

NMI, is there any pics showing this, all of them have his mouth closed?
 

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2015, 08:45:36 AM »
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I'm wondering how crooked his front teeth were? the missing person file claims he had two crooked teeth. Tina sat right next to Cooper for a longtime, but never mentioned anything out of the ordinary with his teeth.

NMI, is there any pics showing this, all of them have his mouth closed?
The only image I have of his teeth is from his senior picture.  They don't appear to very crooked in that photo.  I'll give his daughter a call in the next couple days and ask her about it.  She's the one who filed the information in the online reports (NAMUS, etc.).
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« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2015, 08:55:40 AM »
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It sounds like you have some law enforcement experience, as well as experience in the court system.  You are probably more familiar than most with the latest trends in solving cold case, missing person cases.  This is an exciting time, as in the past couple years, many cases that were considered almost "unsolvable" are being solved because of DNA testing and "websleuthing" via websites like NAMUS.  I very much doubt these trends are going to spill over into this case anytime soon, but hopefully, 10 or 20 years from now, DNA tests on all viable suspects will tell us at the least, who the Cooper suspect wasn't.

Yes, it's a good time to be in law enforcement, that's for sure. Now, if we can just get cops to all wear bodycams, it'll be great!

The only downfall with advances in criminal science it is harder and harder to get a conviction on someone because of what we call "the CSI effect". Jury members sometimes will just refuse to convict if there isn't DNA. Some cases were so obvious (no alibi, clear motive, a dozen eye witnesses) that we didn't even attempt to send off potential DNA evidence to the crimelab and it came back to bite us because one or two people on the jury (must be unanimous decision in criminal cases) won't convict unless there is DNA. It's silly. Nevertheless, on the whole, it is a WONDERFUL thing, especially as applied by groups like the Innocence Project, etc., because often times you are freeing an innocent man while at the same time catching the bad guy.

Concerning DB, I think there needs to be more of a focus on missing persons from that time period like Lepsy or Wilson, because there is obviously a very good chance that DB fell to his death.

About Lepsy specifically, I keep going back to his eyes. Those lazy eyelids are a definite feature. Also, I just did a blind test with my wife with that picture of DB at the wedding and she would have guessed early 40's. She was quite surprised when I said 33.

Another thing about Lepsy: Did he have any criminal background at all? I guess disappearing in the first place is suspicious behavior (assuming he wasn't kidnapped).

Something else: The sketch that was released in the 80's by Flo has the hijacker with a widow's peak. That is something that Comp's A&B do not have. In a few of the pics of Lepsy where his head is facing down you can see a bit of a widow's peak with his hairline. Just a thought.
Dick Lepsy was suspected of embezzling $2000 from the grocery store he managed and fleeing to Mexico.  He has not been seen or heard from since.

I'm not sure how much I trust the 1980s sketch redo.  Memories rarely get sharper with the passage of time. 
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #74 on: March 09, 2015, 10:19:46 AM »
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Dick Lepsy was suspected of embezzling $2000 from the grocery store he managed and fleeing to Mexico.  He has not been seen or heard from since.

That's well over $10,000 in today's money.

Of all the DB suspects put forth that I've seen, I'm not saying I like Lepsy the best, but I think I like his "look" the best. He especially looks like the uber-composite that is on Sluggo's site. Some of the other pics of him he looks a little chubbier in the face, but I think being on the run for a couple of years would have made him leaner.