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Whether he was a welder or just a hack who saw a lot of TV, if they were script glasses, he could have potentially been identified by them. Too bad he had nothing but kids around him. If Lynn was his stewardess, Shutter was in 18A, Bruce was in the cowboy hat and Tom Kaye sold him the ticket, he'd have been caught.

I would have to be in Mitchell's position as pointed out. I watch people a lot, always have. still makes it harder when you don't know why you would be looking at someone and then asked an hour later. who was behind you or two people back at the store or at the gas station?

Flyjack believes more in the money exchange than the money in the pocket....one is more plausible than the other..

I have to take a harder stance because facts and truth are at stake! FLYJACK isnt giving up because he said minutes ago: "You can see that there is a bulge in Tina's coat pocket, we don't know what is in there.. it is something."  FLYJACK just wont give it up! And like all good salesmen, he just wont give his snake handling up! He won't even acknowledge the basic facts in the photos - which I have detailed! You can't reason with somebody like FLYJACK! He will be selling his agenda with whatever manipulations and slight of hand it takes, 1000 years from today, while damning everyone else as morons and liars and trolls!.

The people in photo-2 are in motion vs photo-1. Of course their clothes are deformed - duhhhh!  Tight in some places, bunched in others, etc. With Tina holding a large heavy book and Kleenex in her hand, pressed tight against her mid-area above her naval! Of course her coat is going to bulge! For all anyone knows she has more Kleenex stuffed in her left coat pocket! But according to FLYJACK it must be Cooper money which he calculates for us is only - ".. a money packet is 0.5" thick. ".

So, according to FLYJACK Physics, this thin flexible money packet .. a money packet is 0.5" thick... is causing the large bulge in Tina's coat pocket all by itself ... FLYJACK has drawn our attention to. And this is only part of his money theory story he is concocting (Tina Bar story) that in his words:

"I am just exploring a theory,,,  that Tina didn't return the money to Cooper and kept it, she or somebody close to her discarded it into the Columbia R around 1978/79 when she resided several miles upstream of TBAR.. money washed up on TBAR. There would have been nothing wrong with taking the money from Cooper, it has happened in other hijackings.. but it was returned. Maybe, it just never came up.. "         BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Sheeny Capulatum Rattlesnake Moses and Oprah in the warehouse palatuda magnum nexus veendor pregnant in the Maldum Fornax too! If and only if, King Richard returns to Capulatum by the full moon.

What I want to know from Reverend FLYJACK IS: is Tina also pregnant int his photo? Does she have more Cooper money stuffed in her underpants? And what of the strange bulges in Rataczak's uniform especially in the area below his crotch! Did FLYJACK miss that? 

The people in photo-2 are in motion, walking, Tina is carrying a load with her purse over her shoulder slung (hidden) behind her. Of course people's clothing in this action photo in motion are going to be deformed! Give me a break! Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

And how many more years at Cooper Vortex Kinderfarm are we going to have to spend with these super intelligent all seeing all knowing socalled "researchers" marketing their wares and their stories ? 

FLYJACK'S latest diatribe is preposterous beyond words. FLYJACK is a genuine leader among fools. With no rules!
 

I have thought for awhile that the dummy reserve did not have an "X" or "red X" painted on it. In fact, I have never seen anything official that mentions anything about any type of X on the dummy reserve. Yet it is widely accepted that an X was on the canister of the dummy reserve and the DBC was a fool for not noticing--not to mention Emerick also not noticing.

Why is this important?

It illustrates how easily falsehoods get built into the DBC narrative which can dramatically shape perceptions incorrectly.

Importantly, when Tina mentions seeing DBC wrap up the ransom in a "white material," it appears to suggest only one possibility. Specifically, that the white material Tina references was the canopy of the aforementioned dummy reserve. This, may I suggest, is the root of the real answer explaining how three packets ended up on Tena Bar.

The money did not end up on Tena Bar in 1980 because someone, for some reason, threw packets into a river years after the skyjacking.

With a thick winter type of jacket and deep pockets would hardly show anything an inch thick let alone a half inch. gloves or a hat balled up would tend to show a bulge...

The dummy chute? it's hard to say what it was...2001 they describe a front chute with the name "norm D " on it...nobody has ever mentioned that with the dummy chute..it sure can't be the other chute Cooper cut up...that says "Coss & Johnson" on the container...

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Or there is a central reason which has nothing to do with parachutes or containers or flow per se - but can only be DB Cooper himself linking Tina Mucklow with Tina's Bar. Otherwise this involves a lottery scale probability linking Tina's name with Tina's Bar (the sign) that is hard to accept. A wash-in scenario is an equally low probability. Something of a definite causal nature is at work here. It's dredging in 74 or Mr. Cooper himself. There really are no other options if you believe in "causality" as I do. The Cooper money at Tina's Bar as a result of some West Path is also an extremely remote probability. The money is a problem is Causality only.

[Causal links and 'causality' is what FJ is sensing and looking at, and the reason behind everything he is doing/saying. He and I just have different histories on how and what causality does and how it works, statistically ...] The Cooper money at Tina's Bar is a direct cause-and-effect event. That is all the Laws of Nature allows.

I appreciate your insight regarding this GEORGER. Nonetheless, I attribute the name thing to pure coincidence. Just as I contribute the Dan Cooper comic to coincidence and the fact that the money was found precisely 3,000 days to the day after the skyjacking to coincidence. Not to mention my Rule of 36 which is a series of coincidences regarding the number 36--36 passengers (DBC not included), jet departs Seattle at 7:36, 36 minutes after departing Seattle DBC jumps at 8:12 PM, and 36 years after the skyjacking Larry Carr opens the case up to the public bringing us to where we are today.

Your rule 36 is no more than a metaphor - falls apart under scrutiny.  Tina's name, her personal time and personal conversation with the hijacker, and the name "Tina Bar" as thee physical place where Cooper money turns up ... are all real - immutable. One helluva coincidence in my book. Who would pick that combination in a lottery in Nov 1971? Almost nobody. The odds are infinitesimally small. But these are/became real world living facts of reality, not just a numerical coincidence or a prediction by Nostradamus! No horoscope! No guess by some cosmic genius! Who knows what the future may hold in case something related does show up ... out of the blue! Odds are nothing more will ever turn up, which are almost the same odds of it ever happening in the first place, starting back in November 1971! 

Very low probability events do happen in Nature but out of situations involving very high numbers of repetitions (like Random Walk) ... the Tina Bar scenario may not fit that requirement. Something far more deterministic may be involved ...   

I sure would like to ask Tina her thoughts on this ... if it has crossed her attention at all.     

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Schaffner again...one wire

she said there was one small wire (singular) leading from the dynamite which Cooper was holding in his hand and the bare part of the wire to a contact could detonate the bomb..

I believe In here interview for unsolved mysteries she says 2 wires?

I spoke with Eric the other day...it sounds more like the wire was contained in the briefcase and that's why his hand was in it often..if it was fake it still gives the impression he could set off the bomb by connecting the wire or completing the circuit...

Robbing a bank for 200 grand isn't going to happen..they usually don't have that much cash on hand. most bank robbers only hit one teller..even if you hit them all it's not going to come close to that..2003 the average take in Michigan bank robberies was a little over $800.

There was 250k packaged up and ready to go sitting at sea first bank in Seattle that day, he could of just walked in there with a gun or his briefcase bomb towards closing time as there were probably very few employees and customers on that thanksgiving eve and asked for it. According to Loren Peterson who was working for nwo that day the FBI agent that went and picked up the money didn’t even have to show his credentials or sign for it lol. It wasn’t about the money folks there is more evidence that it wasn’t then that it was and that’s a fact. The assumption that cooper needed the money is a big part of the profile and that being wrong is a big reason why we’ve never found the man IMO.

There was 250k packaged up and ready to go sitting at sea first bank in Seattle that day

Not that easy...you are trying to merge two different crimes...Cooper would have to know that kind of money was on hand..then you would have to alert the whole bank. most bank robbers don't work like that and only rob one teller. to risky trying to get that much money out of a bank and not have an alarm set off (silent). the longer your in the bank, the higher the risk.

A majority of bank robberies last seconds..they get in and out with less of a chance of getting caught. might as well just say Cooper could of done the same at a jewelry store and cleaned out the whole store in Beverly Hills?

Evidence for it wasn’t about the money.

•Cooper didn’t have any bills smaller then 20’s on him.
•Wanting to pay for and tip for his drink or drinks.
•The grudge statement
•Offered Tina and possibly the other stews some of the ransom.
•The money find at Tbar.

Evidence for it was about the money.

•None, maybe that he got excited when he got the money but that’s up for interpretation and then the rationale that cooper must of been desperate for money because who would do such a thing if they weren’t in a dire financial bind. Even though his actions clearly don’t fit one of a desperate or money hungry individual.

Nicky, have you never heard any stories about criminals? The best tip I ever got when I was younger was by a guy carrying probably 5 grand in cash, all hundreds. The worst tipper was the owner of the company, who was worth over 50 million and always waited for his change. Throwing money around doesn't mean a crime isn't about money.

Actually, please privide an additional sentence or three to each of your bullet points and fill in your logic for each, because I think you may believe it is self-evident. It is not.

Loren Peterson is not mentioned in any documents...why would they let just anyone near the money, let alone count it? I believe he might of been around them or heard first hand info and made his own story decades later..his 15 minutes are now up...