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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5310 on: March 23, 2020, 08:31:09 PM »
I found the owner David Horsch unfortunately he passed away in 2018. I reached out to his son Lynn is on Facebook maybe he knows something. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5311 on: March 23, 2020, 08:35:26 PM »
Clark county has a sale date of 10/19/2011

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JOHNSON ERIC O & JOHNSON GIONNI
 

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« Reply #5312 on: March 23, 2020, 08:40:34 PM »
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Clark county has a sale date of 10/19/2011

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JOHNSON ERIC O & JOHNSON GIONNI

Yeah talked to them the owner in 71 was David Horsch. Current owners never heard any stories about the break in. David passed away in 2018 but has a son and daughter who I’ve reached out to in hopes they know something.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5313 on: March 23, 2020, 08:42:46 PM »
He also has 2 sisters who are still living that I’m trying to locate.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5314 on: March 23, 2020, 08:46:24 PM »
contact the sheriff and see if they have any records that far back...if it's anything like Cowlitz, then they probably won't have anything...
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5315 on: March 23, 2020, 08:47:14 PM »
Owners in 1999.....   LUSK CHRISTOPHER SR, LUSK TINA M
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5316 on: March 23, 2020, 08:49:32 PM »
Shows they sold it to Horsch

Document       3055081
Title       DT — DEED OF TRUST
Grantor(s)       LUSK CHRISTOPHER SR, LUSK TINA M,
Grantee(s)       HORSCH DAVID W, FIRST AMERICAN TITLE CO,
Parcel(s)       121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000
Excise No.       
Date Recorded       Jan 19, 1999
Recorded By       FIRST AMERICAN TITLE CO
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« Reply #5317 on: March 23, 2020, 09:08:56 PM »
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Owners in 1999.....   LUSK CHRISTOPHER SR, LUSK TINA M

I believe Chris Lusk is David’s Nephew, his mom is a one Sue Lusk. Just reached out to Chris’s wife Tina on Facebook.
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« Reply #5318 on: March 23, 2020, 09:15:33 PM »
Just got a response from Tina let you guys know what I find out!
 

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« Reply #5319 on: March 24, 2020, 12:08:33 AM »
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Shows they sold it to Horsch

Document       3055081
Title       DT — DEED OF TRUST
Grantor(s)       LUSK CHRISTOPHER SR, LUSK TINA M,
Grantee(s)       HORSCH DAVID W, FIRST AMERICAN TITLE CO,
Parcel(s)       121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000
Excise No.       
Date Recorded       Jan 19, 1999
Recorded By       FIRST AMERICAN TITLE CO

FJ has responded and Im glad he did!  FJ posts:

3 hours ago (edited)
"There were no boots stolen from the store.. where did that come from."

Answer: actually it came from Jo Weber. Obviously Jo had that wrong? If you recall Jo and Duane took a 'memory walk trip' to Washington during which Duane took Jo to places DB Cooper had been, including the Heisson store.  Jo used Duane's first person comments about the Heisson store robbery to claim Duane was the robber based on his knowledge about the burglary during the hijacking, during his escape south using various landmarks Duane showed Jo during their trip ...  More proof for Jo that Duane was DB Cooper.   ;) ;)  I guess Jo had the part about the boots wrong!  :)

But, FJ posts an FBI 302 which includes:

"At about 11:30pm there was a burglary of a grocery store located roughly 10 miles south of the dam. Survival rations were taken including beef jerky, cigarettes, gloves, etc. The person who broke in was wearing military type boots with a corrugated sole.

The person who broke in was wearing military type boots with a corrugated sole.   :rofl:

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5320 on: March 24, 2020, 01:42:50 AM »
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Shows they sold it to Horsch

Document       3055081
Title       DT — DEED OF TRUST
Grantor(s)       LUSK CHRISTOPHER SR, LUSK TINA M,
Grantee(s)       HORSCH DAVID W, FIRST AMERICAN TITLE CO,
Parcel(s)       121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000
Excise No.       
Date Recorded       Jan 19, 1999
Recorded By       FIRST AMERICAN TITLE CO

FJ has responded and Im glad he did!  FJ posts:

3 hours ago (edited)
"There were no boots stolen from the store.. where did that come from."

Answer: actually it came from Jo Weber. Obviously Jo had that wrong? If you recall Jo and Duane took a 'memory walk trip' to Washington during which Duane took Jo to places DB Cooper had been, including the Heisson store.  Jo used Duane's first person comments about the Heisson store robbery to claim Duane was the robber based on his knowledge about the burglary during the hijacking, during his escape south using various landmarks Duane showed Jo during their trip ...  More proof for Jo that Duane was DB Cooper.   ;) ;)  I guess Jo had the part about the boots wrong!  :)

But, FJ posts an FBI 302 which includes:

"At about 11:30pm there was a burglary of a grocery store located roughly 10 miles south of the dam. Survival rations were taken including beef jerky, cigarettes, gloves, etc. The person who broke in was wearing military type boots with a corrugated sole.

The person who broke in was wearing military type boots with a corrugated sole.   :rofl:

But how the hell did Jo know about this Heisson store break in!? 🤔  None of us knew until recently when that 302 was released and flyjack pointed it out!

No. Jo and Duane took a trip to the area years ago. Jo brought it up years ago. According to Jo  Duane took her to the store and showed her landmarks in the area around the store. And something about a pipeline road out of the area Duane may have followed to make his escape as Cooper?  Jo was never lacking 'details' to add to her stories! Jo may have even talked to the owner of the store, by phone!   
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5321 on: March 24, 2020, 02:18:40 AM »
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Shows they sold it to Horsch

Document       3055081
Title       DT — DEED OF TRUST
Grantor(s)       LUSK CHRISTOPHER SR, LUSK TINA M,
Grantee(s)       HORSCH DAVID W, FIRST AMERICAN TITLE CO,
Parcel(s)       121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000
Excise No.       
Date Recorded       Jan 19, 1999
Recorded By       FIRST AMERICAN TITLE CO

FJ has responded and Im glad he did!  FJ posts:

3 hours ago (edited)
"There were no boots stolen from the store.. where did that come from."

Answer: actually it came from Jo Weber. Obviously Jo had that wrong? If you recall Jo and Duane took a 'memory walk trip' to Washington during which Duane took Jo to places DB Cooper had been, including the Heisson store.  Jo used Duane's first person comments about the Heisson store robbery to claim Duane was the robber based on his knowledge about the burglary during the hijacking, during his escape south using various landmarks Duane showed Jo during their trip ...  More proof for Jo that Duane was DB Cooper.   ;) ;)  I guess Jo had the part about the boots wrong!  :)

But, FJ posts an FBI 302 which includes:

"At about 11:30pm there was a burglary of a grocery store located roughly 10 miles south of the dam. Survival rations were taken including beef jerky, cigarettes, gloves, etc. The person who broke in was wearing military type boots with a corrugated sole.

The person who broke in was wearing military type boots with a corrugated sole.   :rofl:

But how the hell did Jo know about this Heisson store break in!? 🤔  None of us knew until recently when that 302 was released and flyjack pointed it out!

No. Jo and Duane took a trip to the area years ago. Jo brought it up years ago. According to Jo  Duane took her to the store and showed her landmarks in the area around the store. And something about a pipeline road out of the area Duane may have followed to make his escape as Cooper?  Jo was never lacking 'details' to add to her stories! Jo may have even talked to the owner of the store, by phone!   

Gotcha I just looked through jo’s old posts on the dz regarding the Heisson store but couldn’t find one where she said boots were taken. I read one that said bathroom window was broken but nothing taken. Can you quote the post where she mentioned boots G? She said she was told it was broken into but didn’t specify from whom so who told her this daune? if so how did he know it wasn’t publicized. The only way should could know is if she talked to the owner David Horsch and he told her or if somebody at the fbi did but why would the fbi tell her that? If she did mention boots were taken that’s interesting and tells me she was probably given this info by the fbi seeing as it mentions boots in the 302 and she just got it mixed up.
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« Reply #5322 on: March 24, 2020, 02:25:37 PM »
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Shows they sold it to Horsch

Document       3055081
Title       DT — DEED OF TRUST
Grantor(s)       LUSK CHRISTOPHER SR, LUSK TINA M,
Grantee(s)       HORSCH DAVID W, FIRST AMERICAN TITLE CO,
Parcel(s)       121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000  121390000
Excise No.       
Date Recorded       Jan 19, 1999
Recorded By       FIRST AMERICAN TITLE CO

FJ has responded and Im glad he did!  FJ posts:

3 hours ago (edited)
"There were no boots stolen from the store.. where did that come from."

Answer: actually it came from Jo Weber. Obviously Jo had that wrong? If you recall Jo and Duane took a 'memory walk trip' to Washington during which Duane took Jo to places DB Cooper had been, including the Heisson store.  Jo used Duane's first person comments about the Heisson store robbery to claim Duane was the robber based on his knowledge about the burglary during the hijacking, during his escape south using various landmarks Duane showed Jo during their trip ...  More proof for Jo that Duane was DB Cooper.   ;) ;)  I guess Jo had the part about the boots wrong!  :)

But, FJ posts an FBI 302 which includes:

"At about 11:30pm there was a burglary of a grocery store located roughly 10 miles south of the dam. Survival rations were taken including beef jerky, cigarettes, gloves, etc. The person who broke in was wearing military type boots with a corrugated sole.

The person who broke in was wearing military type boots with a corrugated sole.   :rofl:

But how the hell did Jo know about this Heisson store break in!? 🤔  None of us knew until recently when that 302 was released and flyjack pointed it out!

No. Jo and Duane took a trip to the area years ago. Jo brought it up years ago. According to Jo  Duane took her to the store and showed her landmarks in the area around the store. And something about a pipeline road out of the area Duane may have followed to make his escape as Cooper?  Jo was never lacking 'details' to add to her stories! Jo may have even talked to the owner of the store, by phone!   

Gotcha I just looked through jo’s old posts on the dz regarding the Heisson store but couldn’t find one where she said boots were taken. I read one that said bathroom window was broken but nothing taken. Can you quote the post where she mentioned boots G? She said she was told it was broken into but didn’t specify from whom so who told her this daune? if so how did he know it wasn’t publicized. The only way should could know is if she talked to the owner David Horsch and he told her or if somebody at the fbi did but why would the fbi tell her that? If she did mention boots were taken that’s interesting and tells me she was probably given this info by the fbi seeing as it mentions boots in the 302 and she just got it mixed up.

Can you give us a url to Jo's old posts about the Heisson store - ? 

Cooper had boots in his green paper bag? I doubt it. Since it was the burglar that was wearing military boots, that doesnt sound like Cooper in loafers.


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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5323 on: March 24, 2020, 04:59:41 PM »
It's amazing Jo knew about the Heisson burglary...
 
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« Reply #5324 on: March 24, 2020, 05:35:38 PM »
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It's amazing Jo knew about the Heisson burglary...

Not really - once Jo got started she didnt give up and she made thousands of phone calls talking to anyone and everyone who could feed her info - that is how she located Tina before Cook could. Jo amassed a library of material from which to pick and chose to fit her case for Duane. In that process she collected a mass of detailed info and trivia about the Cooper case.

Jo attracted the attention of the media and that only fueled her reach! She supposedly convinced Himmelsbach to back her! Outsiders then began calling her, feeding more info to her, etc etc etc. Jo became a Cooper cottage industry. Sluggo came on board with her!

I doubt Jo will ever be duplicated.

A serious conflict developed between her and FLYJACK in 2010. Jo claimed FJ was someone calling themselves BULLJAX (a Canadian, she said!) who had been calling her pumping her for information, a nasty obsessive person. FJ immediately tried to get Dropzone to kick Jo off theforum - that didn't work. FJ then left DZ himself (or herself)? Who knows what the truth of this is except EU has now outed FJ as a person in Toronto, with a name ?

The amazing thing to me about Jo was almost everything she said or posted had some 'seed of truth' in it. It was information she has garnered from somebody or some source. A named person at the time emailed me and said: "Just follow Jo around for a week and she will lead you to the Arc of the Covenant!"  :rofl:

Jo remains unequaled!  :congrats:   But FJ is close on her heels with far more credibility!    :bravo:
   
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