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Offline Shutter

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #2715 on: June 28, 2018, 03:06:23 PM »
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I have the same clip..I looked into them years ago...most were manufactured by one company and shipped to dealers who had there own boxes made for them..

Yes. I believe the US company was Anson (Providence, RI) and then was sold under a couple different names. Rhode Island at that time had a near monopoly on costume and other less-expensive jewelry and accessories.

I spoke with a woman from Anson..I would have to check the video I made but most of the manufacturing was done in Rhode Island or close to it, I can't remember.jewelers would put there name on the box and sell them in the stores they owned..I found a dozen or so different names on the boxes..you can find them on Ebay all the time..
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« Reply #2716 on: June 28, 2018, 03:10:02 PM »
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Tie Clip..

Have not found a match for the tie clip.

While there were many makers of that style known and unknown the style dates way back..

The clip itself looks severely worn and it has indents on the alligator clip, this is rare. I haven't found any similar with indents. IMO, that tie clip was quite old in 1971 for the wear to be that severe on the alligator clip. All similar ones I have found by various makers has not had that amount of wear and they are smooth, no indent on the clip.

If Cooper was in his mid 40's he may have had the tie clip for 25 years..

Note the indents,,,

I have Cooper's exact tie clip from the 60s (picture attached below).

As important, I also have the cufflinks included from the same set (picture attached below).

Most important, Sheridan owned a pair of the cufflinks from the set too. How do I know? He told me.


It is the same style, how do you know it is the exact same manufacturer.. the alligator clip looks different. There are tons of those things out there.

It's precisely the same.

Close, but not exact.

It is exact. Where do you see a difference?
The shape and thumbpress look different.

Can you take a pic at the same angle as the Cooper one posted above..
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #2717 on: June 28, 2018, 03:27:37 PM »
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Tie Clip..

Have not found a match for the tie clip.

While there were many makers of that style known and unknown the style dates way back..

The clip itself looks severely worn and it has indents on the alligator clip, this is rare. I haven't found any similar with indents. IMO, that tie clip was quite old in 1971 for the wear to be that severe on the alligator clip. All similar ones I have found by various makers has not had that amount of wear and they are smooth, no indent on the clip.

If Cooper was in his mid 40's he may have had the tie clip for 25 years..

Note the indents,,,

I have Cooper's exact tie clip from the 60s (picture attached below).

As important, I also have the cufflinks included from the same set (picture attached below).

Most important, Sheridan owned a pair of the cufflinks from the set too. How do I know? He told me.


It is the same style, how do you know it is the exact same manufacturer.. the alligator clip looks different. There are tons of those things out there.

It's precisely the same.

Close, but not exact.

It is exact. Where do you see a difference?
The shape and thumbpress look different.

Can you take a pic at the same angle as the Cooper one posted above..

This is about as close to the same angle as I can get.
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« Reply #2718 on: June 28, 2018, 03:39:29 PM »
it's the same one I have....

I can take a pic with all 3...
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« Reply #2719 on: June 28, 2018, 03:59:56 PM »
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it's the same one I have....

I can take a pic with all 3...

Nice side-by-side comparison.
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« Reply #2720 on: June 28, 2018, 04:49:58 PM »
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it's the same one I have....

I can take a pic with all 3...

They look different..

Does the front have any script..

Like this...
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« Reply #2721 on: June 28, 2018, 05:20:17 PM »
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it's the same one I have....

I can take a pic with all 3...

They look different..

Does the front have any script..

Like this...

There is no script on the front...the plating has some fine bumps in a few spots...that's what you've pictured here.
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« Reply #2722 on: June 28, 2018, 05:37:34 PM »
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it's the same one I have....

I can take a pic with all 3...

They look different..

Does the front have any script..

Like this...


there is no script on the clip...those are imperfections in the plating...this was discussed with Tom Kaye a while back..
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #2723 on: June 29, 2018, 11:12:14 PM »
We all want to know who d b Cooper is and how did he do it. But can someone even think of a way this could happen and NOBODY have any idea who he is or was. As much publicity as this hijacking generated and even today it has so much publicity and interest. Just google his name and you see his sketch. Question. Is the sketch that far off that he could be your next door neighbor and you not recognize him
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« Reply #2724 on: June 29, 2018, 11:31:45 PM »
welcome defender....I'm going to move this topic...we have enough threads to address these issues..
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« Reply #2725 on: June 30, 2018, 02:50:47 AM »
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We all want to know who d b Cooper is and how did he do it. But can someone even think of a way this could happen and NOBODY have any idea who he is or was. As much publicity as this hijacking generated and even today it has so much publicity and interest. Just google his name and you see his sketch. Question. Is the sketch that far off that he could be your next door neighbor and you not recognize him

Dear De -

So what do you think of the many scenarios that have been presented so far, such as DB Cooper was a commando, possibly on a sanctioned mission; or was a rogue operator. Or was a freelancer from a very tight-knit community, such as an Indian tribe or Gypsies.
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« Reply #2726 on: June 30, 2018, 05:07:47 AM »
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We all want to know who d b Cooper is and how did he do it. But can someone even think of a way this could happen and NOBODY have any idea who he is or was. As much publicity as this hijacking generated and even today it has so much publicity and interest. Just google his name and you see his sketch. Question. Is the sketch that far off that he could be your next door neighbor and you not recognize him

Dear De -

So what do you think of the many scenarios that have been presented so far, such as DB Cooper was a commando, possibly on a sanctioned mission; or was a rogue operator. Or was a freelancer from a very tight-knit community, such as an Indian tribe or Gypsies.

Or Knights Templar, or Arucanian Separatists, Icelandic Mole men, or Martians?  Maybe an educated Big Foot raised in an Indian School in Arizona!  ;D
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #2727 on: June 30, 2018, 09:02:16 AM »
Bruce and Georger
Most of these ideas I don't think much of. I think people keep adding to and make this much more complicated than it is or was. If we knew the real story it would be much simpler and less enthusiastic than we may now think it was. A guy bailed out the bottom of a plane and several others did the same after he did of.course it's just nobody knows who this guy is. So back to my question. Even people kind of people etc have been listed but someone knows them so how could it be nobody can I d him.  What is a scenario this could happen
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« Reply #2728 on: June 30, 2018, 12:36:35 PM »
Let's broaden the discussion, Defender: What scenarios exist do you think where people don't talk to the cops?

You dismissed a few out of hand, ie: ethnic groups, military enclaves, etc. Of course, Georger, backed you up - at least indirectly - because he can't resist the opportunity to stab me in the back, or my ideas and values. But none of that changes the possibility that Cooper came from a world that is isolated, singular, and PROTECTED.

Perhaps you don't like that kind of world. Perhaps you prefer to think that everyone lives like you and Georger. Nevertheless, I believe the world is much more diverse than you seem to be inclined to acknowledge.
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« Reply #2729 on: June 30, 2018, 01:13:52 PM »
Bruce if it was a group deal what was the purpose. Why even to this day nobody has talked. Can u imagine the story they would have. Even still nobody on the outside has ever seen him?  Surely someone not in the group could have identified this person. If we're some conspiracy with govt involvement as some have speculated. What was the purpose behind it
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