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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #360 on: March 03, 2021, 09:25:01 PM »
Historical Perspective on Dan Cooper comics

The FBI did not know about Dan Cooper comics until Snowmman told Larry Carr about them in 2009. Snow is not well-known here at the DBCF, but back in the day he was a major force on the DZ.

In about 2009 he started developing computer models on a variety of subjects, such as ideal suspects. He also discovered the comics.

At the same time, Snow decided to feed me LOTS of tips, addresses, and leads. His assistance has been critical to the development of my book. Snow led me to Sheridan Peterson, and in turn, Petey's brother, Pete's first ex-wife Claire, some of the kids, Mary Jean Fryar, Petey's buddies in Vietnam, some of his writing friends, etc. Lots.

Snow really dug into the Dan Cooper comics, and in turn Larry Carr robustly embraced them. Then Carol Abracadabra followed suit. But no one was able to show any connection to Coop. One missing piece then, and still to this day, is information from the commando community. Not one SOG trooper I talked with (another major Snow info dump) mentioned reading or knowing about the comics. Similarly, to this day I know of no one in the skydiving community who is familiar with the comix.

As a result, I consider the Dan Cooper comics an enticing dead-end.

Lastly, Snowmman was the master of irony, snobbism, and elite-ism. For those of you upset with Georger, or wish that EU could get off his high horse and hope Chaucer will actually pull his head out of his ass, Snow cudda eaten theirs and your lunch all day, every day.

In fact, Snow was the first in the Cooper Vortex to be banned permanently from any DBC chat room, the DZ in 2010. Even though I love the guy, the banishment was well-deserved. That said, I supported 377's frequent request to the moderators at the DZ to rescind Snow's fate and restore his voice to the conversation. But that never happened, alas.
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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #361 on: March 03, 2021, 09:46:23 PM »
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Historical Perspective on Dan Cooper comics

The FBI did not know about Dan Cooper comics until Snowmman told Larry Carr about them in 2009. Snow is not well-known here at the DBCF, but back in the day he was a major force on the DZ.

In about 2009 he started developing computer models on a variety of subjects, such as ideal suspects. He also discovered the comics.

At the same time, Snow decided to feed me LOTS of tips, addresses, and leads. His assistance has been critical to the development of my book. Snow led me to Sheridan Peterson, and in turn, Petey's brother, Pete's first ex-wife Claire, some of the kids, Mary Jean Fryar, Petey's buddies in Vietnam, some of his writing friends, etc. Lots.

Snow really dug into the Dan Cooper comics, and in turn Larry Carr robustly embraced them. Then Carol Abracadabra followed suit. But no one was able to show any connection to Coop. One missing piece then, and still to this day, is information from the commando community. Not one SOG trooper I talked with (another major Snow info dump) mentioned reading or knowing about the comics. Similarly, to this day I know of no one in the skydiving community who is familiar with the comix.

As a result, I consider the Dan Cooper comics an enticing dead-end.

Lastly, Snowmman was the master of irony, snobbism, and elite-ism. For those of you upset with Georger, or wish that EU could get off his high horse and hope Chaucer will actually pull his head out of his ass, Snow cudda eaten theirs and your lunch all day, every day.

In fact, Snow was the first in the Cooper Vortex to be banned permanently from any DBC chat room, the DZ in 2010. Even though I love the guy, the banishment was well-deserved. That said, I supported 377's frequent request to the moderators at the DZ to rescind Snow's fate and restore his voice to the conversation. But that never happened, alas.

But no real way to know if DBC took the name from the comic.  I mean. What are the odds?  He buys his ticket Dan Cooper.  Do you think there is any merit to him being non American?  I am not going to say he s American based solely on him buying a cheap tie at Penney’s.  Lastly, do you think the very big exchange rate on American currency could have played any role?  Such as laundering the money in Canada?
 

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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #362 on: March 04, 2021, 02:42:35 AM »
Did Danny select his moniker from a comic book? Maybe. Maybe not. I think the latter. If true, though, it's a hellava coincidence.

As for Danny being a Canuck, I feel he was not. To wit: the "negotiable American currency" quote is from a cockpit teletype thingie from 305 to NWO. Is that what Danny actually said? Maybe. Maybe not. Again, I opt for the latter.

If Danny spoke in such intellectualized and arcane language, I think Tina would have picked up on it. Her quote in the Philly-based debrief in a 302 has her stating simply, "he wanted cash." That sounds like the Danny Boy I have come to know and love.

Did a favorable exchange rate motivate a Canadian to cross the border and steal a US jetliner so he could get American buckaroos? Maybe. But I strongly think other, more compelling factors would have guided his thinking.

Look at it this way - flip the premise. Would an American want to cross the border into Canada to jack a plane because he saw some advantage? I wouldn't. There are too many Canadian slang terms that could trip me up along the way, such as someone asking me if a want a "touk?" I had a girlfriend do that on a cold day and I looked at her like she had two heads. Then she explained it was a wool ski cap.

Or someone saying, "Yo, dude, you dropped your toonie." Or shouting "Arrete," while I cross a street in traffic - lots of ways to out a Yankee north o' the border, which may be why those who fly the red maple leaf have turned me down twice for immigration - once to Quebec and once to BC.

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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #363 on: March 04, 2021, 05:19:58 AM »
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Did Danny select his moniker from a comic book? Maybe. Maybe not. I think the latter. If true, though, it's a hellava coincidence.

As for Danny being a Canuck, I feel he was not. To wit: the "negotiable American currency" quote is from a cockpit teletype thingie from 305 to NWO. Is that what Danny actually said? Maybe. Maybe not. Again, I opt for the latter.

If Danny spoke in such intellectualized and arcane language, I think Tina would have picked up on it. Her quote in the Philly-based debrief in a 302 has her stating simply, "he wanted cash." That sounds like the Danny Boy I have come to know and love.

Did a favorable exchange rate motivate a Canadian to cross the border and steal a US jetliner so he could get American buckaroos? Maybe. But I strongly think other, more compelling factors would have guided his thinking.

They would not let me in once and that was in a pre Covid and 911 world.  Imagine their paranoia now.  They are beyond belief.  I wonder what the damn jails are like up there?  LOL. I do not want to find out.  The only thing is, its possible he could have been one of those Canadians that did a lot of back and forth traveling and felt comfortable in both countries.  Its possible. Anything is possible as right now no investigation from the facts we know can be a waste of time.  The clock is ticking on finding him alive.  And that is maybe a long shot?  Not everyone lives to be in their 90s.   Assuming their descriptions of his age were accurate.  i would not put him any older, after all, he was about to jump from 10,000 feet out of a moving plane at night.  That takes some balls if you are in your 20's.  As for books, the subject of this thread, like I have said, lets hope that he made a journal to be found someday telling us the whole story.  It might be tempting for him to do, assuming he lived long enough to do so.  As for the money, he had to have done something with it, laundered some of it.  If he did it in Canada, would it not be easier for it to slip through the cracks?
Look at it this way - flip the premise. Would an American want to cross the border into Canada to jack a plane because he saw some advantage? I wouldn't. There are too many Canadian slang terms that could trip me up along the way, such as someone asking me if a want a "touk?" I had a girlfriend do that on a cold day and I looked at her like she had two heads. Then she explained it was a wool ski cap.

Or someone saying, "Yo, dude, you dropped your toonie." Or shouting "Arrete," while I cross a street in traffic - lots of ways to out a Yankee north o' the border, which may be why those who fly the red maple leaf have turned me down twice for immigration - once to Quebec and once to BC.

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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #364 on: March 04, 2021, 12:12:09 PM »
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Did Danny select his moniker from a comic book? Maybe. Maybe not. I think the latter. If true, though, it's a hellava coincidence.

As for Danny being a Canuck, I feel he was not. To wit: the "negotiable American currency" quote is from a cockpit teletype thingie from 305 to NWO. Is that what Danny actually said? Maybe. Maybe not. Again, I opt for the latter.

If Danny spoke in such intellectualized and arcane language, I think Tina would have picked up on it. Her quote in the Philly-based debrief in a 302 has her stating simply, "he wanted cash." That sounds like the Danny Boy I have come to know and love.

Did a favorable exchange rate motivate a Canadian to cross the border and steal a US jetliner so he could get American buckaroos? Maybe. But I strongly think other, more compelling factors would have guided his thinking.

They would not let me in once and that was in a pre Covid and 911 world.  Imagine their paranoia now.  They are beyond belief.  I wonder what the damn jails are like up there?  LOL. I do not want to find out.  The only thing is, its possible he could have been one of those Canadians that did a lot of back and forth traveling and felt comfortable in both countries.  Its possible. Anything is possible as right now no investigation from the facts we know can be a waste of time.  The clock is ticking on finding him alive.  And that is maybe a long shot?  Not everyone lives to be in their 90s.   Assuming their descriptions of his age were accurate.  i would not put him any older, after all, he was about to jump from 10,000 feet out of a moving plane at night.  That takes some balls if you are in your 20's.  As for books, the subject of this thread, like I have said, lets hope that he made a journal to be found someday telling us the whole story.  It might be tempting for him to do, assuming he lived long enough to do so.  As for the money, he had to have done something with it, laundered some of it.  If he did it in Canada, would it not be easier for it to slip through the cracks?
Look at it this way - flip the premise. Would an American want to cross the border into Canada to jack a plane because he saw some advantage? I wouldn't. There are too many Canadian slang terms that could trip me up along the way, such as someone asking me if a want a "touk?" I had a girlfriend do that on a cold day and I looked at her like she had two heads. Then she explained it was a wool ski cap.

Or someone saying, "Yo, dude, you dropped your toonie." Or shouting "Arrete," while I cross a street in traffic - lots of ways to out a Yankee north o' the border, which may be why those who fly the red maple leaf have turned me down twice for immigration - once to Quebec and once to BC.

Capice?

Disregard.  Quoted and posted by error.