Flyjack. Regarding the crew involvement would like to know what your thinking is

I don't believe any crew was "involved" in the hijacking..

though I think I have this thing solved short of FBI forensics.. (only the FBI can "prove")

I have to think about how to disclose, the amount of information I have to back it up is insane and pulling it all together into a concise format is a ton of work that I am NOT interested in doing as I am NOT writing a book. If I give the solution without backing it up I will be relentlessly attacked, smeared and discredited.. and if I publicly disclose others will steal it, do a book or movie..

So, I prefer if individuals figure it out on their own.. then I don't have to spend insane time explaining the info.

I am satisfied that this thing is solved as far as can be without FBI forensics, I am just checking my homework.

I do believe it was Hahneman and I believe I know why the FBI falsely dropped him as a suspect. Once you figure out TBAR everything falls into place...


Occam's Razor..

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Flyjack. Regarding the crew involvement would like to know what your thinking is

I don't believe any crew was "involved" in the hijacking..

though I think I have this thing solved short of FBI forensics.. (only the FBI can "prove")

I have to think about how to disclose, the amount of information I have to back it up is insane and pulling it all together into a concise format is a ton of work that I am NOT interested in doing as I am NOT writing a book. If I give the solution without backing it up I will be relentlessly attacked, smeared and discredited.. and if I publicly disclose others will steal it, do a book or movie..

So, I prefer if individuals figure it out on their own.. then I don't have to spend insane time explaining the info.

I am satisfied that this thing is solved as far as can be without FBI forensics, I am just checking my homework.

I do believe it was Hahneman and I believe I know why the FBI falsely dropped him as a suspect. Once you figure out TBAR everything falls into place...


Occam's Razor..

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Inspector FLYJACK Clouseau,

I have to say this is one of the most bizarre posts I have ever seen here.  Bloviate without backup, that's all it is.  Do you actually believe what you are saying here?  Arrogance, mystery, intrigue -- all in one post, I don't think I can take it.  I'll have to step outside and have a nocturnal emission now.......and just think what might happen if the communists get a hold of your secret solution to the Great Mystery.  WWIII for sure. 

I've been away for a while, I'm not up to speed on your suspect, Hannebel.  Where can I go to learn of your theory and suspect?

I believe I have figured out what happened at Tina Bar.  The evidence we have is enough, there can only be one possible scenario.   We'll have to get together and get famous.

Meyer

While Flyjack is looking for his theory .... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... we can all watch the Decorah Eagles! You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login           or any other wildlife livecam you like.
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The shards were found several feet deep.. suggesting they dispersed down/out

Has anyone else considered the possibility that the money (packages) may have migrated up.. suggesting the shards were close to the position where the money was originally deposited. The packages with a large surface area rose a foot or so due to tidal liquefaction..

Is there anything other than an earthquake that causes liquefaction on a beach?  The money find was in February of 80, and it doesn't look like there were any earthquakes in that area immediately before that (at least that I'm seeing).  Are you thinking an earlier earthquake brought the money close to the surface from a deeper location, but not all the way to the surface, and then erosion did the rest?

Dredging spoils are in a state of liquefaction for some time. They flow... see south "slump" pile. 

Image has been colorised to better show slumping effect present at @ of the liquefied dredge slump piles - 

Red dot shows money find location north of north slump pile.

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The shards were found several feet deep.. suggesting they dispersed down/out

Has anyone else considered the possibility that the money (packages) may have migrated up.. suggesting the shards were close to the position where the money was originally deposited. The packages with a large surface area rose a foot or so due to tidal liquefaction..

I'm an EE, not a geologist or soils expert. What is the primary factor determining whether an object floats (rises) or sinks under liquefaction? Is it the density of the object relative to the density of the surrounding material (wet sand)? Does surface area come into play? Georger?

Seems we could figure out whether a currency stack would rise or submerge.

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Good question. Flotation would depend on Mass vs surrounding material. Money bundles were wet so Im not sure. My guess is they would be held in suspension wherever they were in the total volume, but they would definitely move with the surrounding material as it flowed (back toward the river). Im rushed for time - already late for something - let me check date of this photo vs date spreading began ... later.

I see things in this photo I will bring up tonight. I know Shutter thinks the slump piles moved (north?). 

Dredging spoils are in a state of liquefaction for some time. They flow... see south "slump" pile. 

Image has been colorised to better show slumping effect present at @ of the liquefied dredge slump piles - 

Red dot shows money find location north of north slump pile.

The money find location, based on the GPS coordinates from Tom Kaye, is about 150 to 200 feet south (to the right in the photo) of the red dot.  Remember that the long building running north and south on the Fazio property is about 200 or 210 feet long.

The TK coordinates put the red dot well inside the pencil circles and at the edge, or maybe slightly into, the slump pile.  So if the money was at Tina Bar prior to 1974, Shutter could be right.

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Dredging spoils are in a state of liquefaction for some time. They flow... see south "slump" pile. 

Image has been colorised to better show slumping effect present at @ of the liquefied dredge slump piles - 

Red dot shows money find location north of north slump pile.

The money find location, based on the GPS coordinates from Tom Kaye, is about 150 to 200 feet south (to the right in the photo) of the red dot.  Remember that the long building running north and south on the Fazio property is about 200 or 210 feet long.

The TK coordinates put the red dot well inside the pencil circles and at the edge, or maybe slightly into, the slump pile.  So if the money was at Tina Bar prior to 1974, Shutter could be right.

Either you or Tom are screwed up. My red doit is very close to Tom's yellow pin in his chart on his website. Now, if Tom's corrds are wrong or his pin is wrong ..... I dont know which. Take it up with Tom. Let us know by the year 5000!  Im going fishing.

Somewhere in this ellipse "might have been" the Ingram money find! Can anyone point to where it actually was !?