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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by EU on April 20, 2021, 08:59:45 PM »
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EU, I might have missed something. Not sure why you're looking to do a DNA comparison on SP if one has already been done?


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I had brown hair and blue eyes. (I say 'had' because my hair is mostly grey these days.) Georger, are you saying that makes me crazy? Might explain some of the lifestyle choices I've made...

We determined after filming that the filter we analyzed on the show was contaminated with Tom Kaye's DNA. Therefore, Sheridan was put back on the table as a suspect.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by dudeman17 on April 20, 2021, 06:31:58 PM »
EU, I might have missed something. Not sure why you're looking to do a DNA comparison on SP if one has already been done?


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I had brown hair and blue eyes. (I say 'had' because my hair is mostly grey these days.) Georger, are you saying that makes me crazy? Might explain some of the lifestyle choices I've made...
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by georger on April 20, 2021, 02:54:11 PM »
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What EU failed to tell everyone is hair color and eye color are genetically related! Cooper's sunglasses didnt do a damned thing to change his hair color under the microscope! Ooops.   The reason why these two traits are usually linked is that the genes responsible for hair and eye color happen to be close together on the same chromosomes. When genes like these are close together the traits tend to end up coming in pairs (blonde hair/blue eyes, etc.) statistically. 

Statistically, an FBI wanted poster for Richard McCoy lists his hair as brown and eyes as blue.

That's still within the 1:3/1:5 range. People with brown hair and blue eyes are an outlier. 1:5 appear to have that association. Are still European.

Seeing that 'exception' in McCoy's dna and noting his life story, I might be curious concerning what other anomalies are in his dna. Anything related to mental illness? Mental process related genetic disorders? The literature is full of this kind of research ... findings. Thanks for the tip R9999999999999B789999999999999.  ;)     
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by EU on April 20, 2021, 01:20:15 PM »
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It just seems peculiar to me that if Sheridan was tested and deemed "not able to be excluded", that Carr and others would not direct their efforts at him rather than at the case in general. Peterson didn't seem like a priority for Carr and Eng. A "not able to be excluded" test should have skyrocketed Peterson to Prime Suspect in the case, yet wasn't treated as such. In fact, they continued to test and investigate others afterwards.

Based on that, I suspect Peterson's DNA test cleared him. Could be wrong....

The problem here is that there is a lot that I don't know concerning the FBI.

I explicitly asked Carr about Sheridan and got no response--I have communicated with Carr on occasion so this is somewhat of an outlier.

Also, Sheridan has stated things about the FBI digging into his time in Nepal and Washington State after he came back to the US in 1999. However, I cannot confirm this. But if it's true, then the FBI did proceed presumably sometime after 2006.

I expect that the DNA comparison results will clear up a lot.

Also, the FBI files clearly state that Sheridan's picture would be shown to the witnesses and that nothing more would be done until there was a positive/negative result. Then a few months later the investigation into Sheridan started big time. Therefore, the presumption is that the witnesses moved Sheridan forward based upon his picture which is also compelling.

As I've said previously, there is a lot with this guy. That said, I'll let the DNA comparison speak for itself.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Chaucer on April 20, 2021, 12:55:24 PM »
It just seems peculiar to me that if Sheridan was tested and deemed "not able to be excluded", that Carr and others would not direct their efforts at him rather than at the case in general. Peterson didn't seem like a priority for Carr and Eng. A "not able to be excluded" test should have skyrocketed Peterson to Prime Suspect in the case, yet wasn't treated as such. In fact, they continued to test and investigate others afterwards.

Based on that, I suspect Peterson's DNA test cleared him. Could be wrong....
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by EU on April 20, 2021, 11:29:23 AM »
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EU,
If Sheridan was tested years ago and it came back as "cannot be excluded", then why wasn't he arrested then? Why wasn't there any follow up? Any interrogation? Any search warrant issued on his property?

I just don't understand why the FBI would spend the time, money, and trouble DNA testing a guy, have it come back as a hit, and then provide absolutely no follow upon him.

Because all the DNA test can accomplish is eliminating a suspect. It is of no value in Court to prosecute someone.

It may well be that only 1 out of 1000 suspects cannot be eliminated after comparing the samples. For my purposes that's enough to say someone was DBC. On the other hand, a criminal defense attorney is going to get the FBI to admit that they're not absolutely certain that it was even DBC's tie. He'd argue there are 1000 men in America who could have owned the tie based upon population at that time--and he'd be right. Therefore, the tie as a piece of evidence would be inadmissible.

Additionally, it would be argued that the destroyed cigarette butts were exculpatory evidence further compounding the prosecution's case.

In reality, short of an outright smoking gun, the case cannot be prosecuted. When I say smoking gun, I mean either the money being found or the hand written notes from Flo being found.

Of note, you would think that if it came back that Sheridan couldn't be eliminated that the FBI would dig further into his time in Nepal. Well according to Sheridan the FBI did just said. He wrote that they investigated his time in Nepal and even interviewed the doctor who was there when his daughter was born. That said, I have never been able to prove this so I don't know one way or the other.

In either case, the FBI was never presented with Sheridan's passport--which I have photographed. And, when the FBI asked him about the whereabouts of his then-wife who could provide an alibi (or the opposite), Sheridan said she died in 1977--a claim that has apparently been proved false by multiple members of his family, including his daughter born in Nepal.

All of that said, Sheridan was never arrested or charged.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Chaucer on April 20, 2021, 09:37:15 AM »
EU,
If Sheridan was tested years ago and it came back as "cannot be excluded", then why wasn't he arrested then? Why wasn't there any follow up? Any interrogation? Any search warrant issued on his property?

I just don't understand why the FBI would spend the time, money, and trouble DNA testing a guy, have it come back as a hit, and then provide absolutely no follow upon him.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by EU on April 20, 2021, 05:28:54 AM »
I believe I will let the FBI DNA comparison speak for itself once it arrives. Grand pronouncements regarding Cooper's eye color, in particular, is just plain foolishness. The only person to have seen Cooper's eyes was Flo, before the jet was hijacked. She has stated herself that she cannot be certain about DBC's eyes in the FBI files.

People are free to approach this case how they want. As for me, I will let science and facts dictate my investigation.

Simply put, if Sheridan's DNA comparison indicates an overlap whereby Sheridan cannot be eliminated as a suspect, then I am convinced he was likely DBC. This is based upon a lot of other evidence and documentation too.

If the DNA comparison indicates that Sheridan can be eliminated, then I think Sheridan likely was not DBC. This, of course, is based upon the presumption that the FBI did a reasonably good job at protecting the tie up to 2001 when the DNA was extracted, and that the samples were from a region of the tie and/or tie tack that suggest DBC was the donor.

All the rest is just agenda driven BS. Let the evidence speak for itself.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by georger on April 20, 2021, 04:30:17 AM »
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What EU failed to tell everyone is hair color and eye color are genetically related! Cooper's sunglasses didnt do a damned thing to change his hair color under the microscope! Ooops.   The reason why these two traits are usually linked is that the genes responsible for hair and eye color happen to be close together on the same chromosomes. When genes like these are close together the traits tend to end up coming in pairs (blonde hair/blue eyes, etc.) statistically. 

Statistically, an FBI wanted poster for Richard McCoy lists his hair as brown and eyes as blue.

You can be put on IGNORE.

Go check it out for yourself.  When you find out you arent as smart as you think you are . . .  :rofl:   

Tell us what McCoy's lineage was ? His parents were Myrtle and Richard Floyd McCoy, Sr.  Lineage European.

DB Cooper had Brown eyes.
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Robert99 on April 20, 2021, 02:10:55 AM »
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What EU failed to tell everyone is hair color and eye color are genetically related! Cooper's sunglasses didnt do a damned thing to change his hair color under the microscope! Ooops.   The reason why these two traits are usually linked is that the genes responsible for hair and eye color happen to be close together on the same chromosomes. When genes like these are close together the traits tend to end up coming in pairs (blonde hair/blue eyes, etc.) statistically. 

Statistically, an FBI wanted poster for Richard McCoy lists his hair as brown and eyes as blue.
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