I'm not sure how long they have been in business. perhaps this was what made them decide? what were they doing there prior to the sand operation?

I'm not really sure of the process they go through, but it doesn't appear to have a lot of filtering, or stages to go through for the sand? it's my understanding they supply sand for golf courses which is a very fine sand. you would think they would have an area for the material not needed, or filtered out. I don't see that, so I'm skeptical about clay making it's way onto the beach. I could be way off, but it's a thought...

Is it possible we have two types of dredge operations? if they are making the channel deeper, it would get down below the sand, and into all kinds of sediments, and if they were clearing the build up, it would be a majority of sand which would be what they need for the business?

My impression is one dredge does a whole project start to finish, but different types of dredges are involved in different projects.

If Tom is correct and the dredging place and money find are far apart, wouldnt you think Palmer etal would know that? They had the USCE photos! Put another way, why would Palmer even be looking for a dredging layer ... in a place where there were no dredging spoils placed, as shown in the 1979 USCE photos!

Palmer's whole reason for being there was to determine when and how the money got there ... and the first thing he does is look for and identify the "dredging layer" ... which according to Tom is not there at all but 200+ yards south!

This reduces Palmer and everyone else at this excavation to the status of a bunch of amateurs and morons.  Looking for dredging spoils in a place where 1979 USCE photos show it was not placed ? And nobody brought this simple issue up! The complexity of this affair just got more complex.

   

One of the main problems I have is the dredge material didn't seen to erode, or gradually disappear? the beach has a well known history of erosion, and yet several feet of dredge material was there. actually, it appears to have added layers to the bank vs remove it during the periods of 74 - 80? almost 3 feet, if I read the chart correctly?

Not according to Tom. Tom says pretty much all of the dredging material was gone, had eroded away, which exposed the money to the surface (the money having arrived in 1971-72).

But, Tom is also saying 'the dredging material was not there at all but in a location 200+ yards south, as shown on the 1979 USCE photo. '!

Both I guess.

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Was the money found above where the river levels would have been in spring of 1972?

I thought there was a graph of all the various floods from 1970 until 1980? Isn't that somewhere in the thread?

I thought there was a graph of all the various floods from 1970 until 1980? Isn't that somewhere in the thread?

There are two - since there is no data for TBar itself everything is inference based on nearby stations.

Nobody who has been to TBar ever bothered to produce an elevation map of the place_for any date since dinosaurs roamed the place looking for the Ariel Store!   

Neat article published in Forbes a few days ago...

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Well the article is funny - because it's stupid tripe!    Note where this guy has the placard being found! On the Columbia River! The guy needs to go back and repeat Coopergarten.