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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5805 on: March 06, 2021, 02:28:11 PM »
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The money was buried where it was buried. It got there somehow.

It would be an error if it was discovered not to have been buried by human means. "it got there somehow" is proof that theories will have error's or they wouldn't be a theory, they would be fact?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5806 on: March 06, 2021, 02:30:13 PM »
You're mixing two things.

FACT: The money was buried.

FACT: Easiest explanation is that it was buried by a human being.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2021, 02:30:52 PM by EU »
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5807 on: March 06, 2021, 02:31:29 PM »
Actually, the easiest explanation is also a fact.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5808 on: March 06, 2021, 02:31:42 PM »
Human error could easily be in the statement? just as it "could" of been buried by human means. that leaves the theory open to errors?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5809 on: March 06, 2021, 02:32:28 PM »
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Actually, the easiest explanation is also a fact.

completely false...nothing has to be easy to be a fact? nothing in the world would be hard if everything was easy to do, get, or understand.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5810 on: March 06, 2021, 02:38:57 PM »
Look, at the end of the day we just think differently about this.

I look at the money and deduce that he landed near Tena Bar and buried the money.

I believe the factual evidence supports this scenario. I do not believe, nor do I expect, that "evidence" that is a by-product of human error supports this scenario.

I'll just leave it at that and continue my on-the-ground investigation based upon my beliefs. Either I'm right or I'm wrong. That said, I think I'm right.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5811 on: March 06, 2021, 02:48:46 PM »
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Human error DID occur. It's all through the files. It's in the Palmer Report.

That said, physics and science do not lie. They are never wrong.

The physics involved with the three packets staying together yet separating from the other 97 packets and everything else that completely went missing, then somehow floating downstream on a branch or something--but only in June--and then burying itself for eight years is impossible. Does anyone really believe this can be replicated?

It's simple. The money was buried by a human being, left behind, and discovered eight years later.

Is 'everything' that is buried at TBar, buried by a human being? No.

Are you saying Nature does not bury things? That according 'your version of Physics' three bundles of money 'cannot be naturally buried at Tina Bar'. ! ?

 

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« Reply #5812 on: March 06, 2021, 02:51:08 PM »
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Yes. Brian Ingram discovered the money buried under a few inches of sand. That is buried.

Nature has been burying things here for 6 billion years! Why is money at Tina Bar suddenly exempt?  This is elementary! 
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5813 on: March 06, 2021, 02:51:52 PM »
Nothing wrong with that at all. searching outside the area is also good in looking for clues. I simply disagree on things and address them. the latest have been the placard and Cinebar. I don't think I'm alone in this and believe further research is required. one more than the other. it's stands with anything done in this case by completely dismissing or confirming the issue so other things can be addressed. leaving them open tends to sway the thoughts and can be open to errors in it's totality in finding answers?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5814 on: March 06, 2021, 02:52:46 PM »
It’s also possible that “human error” did NOT occur, and that the flight path is an ironclad fact.

FACT:

1. The flight path is accurate.

2. The plan flew over the Columbia.

3. The money was found buried in the sand on the riverbank upstream.

Any reasonable person would conclude that the best way to triangulate this fact is that the money ended up in the river where the plane went over and the river then transported the money to Tena Bar.

When you start de-valuing basic facts of the case such as the flight path, the witness descriptions, etc. then you can start making ANY claims to meet ANY end.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5815 on: March 06, 2021, 02:53:07 PM »
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Human error DID occur. It's all through the files. It's in the Palmer Report.

That said, physics and science do not lie. They are never wrong.

The physics involved with the three packets staying together yet separating from the other 97 packets and everything else that completely went missing, then somehow floating downstream on a branch or something--but only in June--and then burying itself for eight years is impossible. Does anyone really believe this can be replicated?

It's simple. The money was buried by a human being, left behind, and discovered eight years later.

Is 'everything' that is buried at TBar, buried by a human being? No.

Are you saying Nature does not bury things? That according 'your version of Physics' three bundles of money 'cannot be naturally buried at Tina Bar'. ! ?

Put a bag of cash in the Columbia River near PDX and let's see what happens. Oh wait, it can't be put in the river because diatoms from only June are on the money.

So let's put the money near the Columbia River by PDX and see what happens.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5816 on: March 06, 2021, 02:54:07 PM »
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Actually, the easiest explanation is also a fact.

Are human beings (or Cooper) responsible the Laws of Nature and Life (dna,rna) ? 

You have this backwards. Actually, the easiest explanation is Nature! DB Cooper didn;t make Nature.
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5817 on: March 06, 2021, 03:00:37 PM »
GEORGER, if I'm walking through the woods somewhere and find a broken watch sitting on the ground, I can reasonably deduce that the watch ended up there because some guy walked by with the watch and dropped it there. That is the easiest explanation for how the watch got there. That is a fact.

Now if you want to believe that the watched got swept up by a tornado which then dropped the watch onto a passing eagle, who then balanced it on his back while he flew 20 miles north into the woods, then have it.

The moral of my story: You have to consider what you found and where.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5818 on: March 06, 2021, 03:04:39 PM »
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It’s also possible that “human error” did NOT occur, and that the flight path is an ironclad fact.

FACT:

1. The flight path is accurate.

FACT:  THE WESTERN FLIGHT PATH IS FACT.[b\]

2. The plan flew over the Columbia.

FACT:  THE AIRLINER HAD TO FLY OVER THE COLUMBIA RIVER TO GET TO RENO.[b\]

3. The money was found buried in the sand on the riverbank upstream.

FACT:  THE MONEY WAS FOUND BURIED IN THE SAND AT TINA BAR.[b\]

Any reasonable person would conclude that the best way to triangulate this fact is that the money ended up in the river where the plane went over and the river then transported the money to Tena Bar.

FACT:  IF THE MONEY HAD LANDED IN THE COLUMBIA RIVER IT WOULD HAVE GONE DOWNSTREAM AND NEVER ENDED UP AT TINA BAR.[b\]

When you start de-valuing basic facts of the case such as the flight path, the witness descriptions, etc. then you can start making ANY claims to meet ANY end.

  FACT:  THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT CHAUCER HAS DONE.[b\]
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5819 on: March 06, 2021, 03:05:55 PM »
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Human error DID occur. It's all through the files. It's in the Palmer Report.

That said, physics and science do not lie. They are never wrong.

The physics involved with the three packets staying together yet separating from the other 97 packets and everything else that completely went missing, then somehow floating downstream on a branch or something--but only in June--and then burying itself for eight years is impossible. Does anyone really believe this can be replicated?

It's simple. The money was buried by a human being, left behind, and discovered eight years later.

Is 'everything' that is buried at TBar, buried by a human being? No.

Are you saying Nature does not bury things? That according 'your version of Physics' three bundles of money 'cannot be naturally buried at Tina Bar'. ! ?

Put a bag of cash in the Columbia River near PDX and let's see what happens. Oh wait, it can't be put in the river because diatoms from only June are on the money.

So let's put the money near the Columbia River by PDX and see what happens.

You are making this up as you go along and citing your version of 'the facts' only. Under your vision anything you want to happen is possible, and must happen, and did happen.  The Earth was made in 5.4647445464748 days ! The money arrived at Tina Bar on June 6th in some year at 3:30am ? My grandchildren make up stories like this. Then they laugh.   
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