However, my point was to suggest how farfetched the theory that Cooper landed near Tena Bar, buried the money immediately, and then returned six months later to recover it. It certainly sounds easy to write, but when you consider all of the possible variables (the weather, disorientation, adrenaline, flooding, passage of time) this theory becomes harder and harder to swallow.

Unfortunately for you the evidence points to a scenario very similar to this as being the truth of it all.

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However, my point was to suggest how farfetched the theory that Cooper landed near Tena Bar, buried the money immediately, and then returned six months later to recover it. It certainly sounds easy to write, but when you consider all of the possible variables (the weather, disorientation, adrenaline, flooding, passage of time) this theory becomes harder and harder to swallow.

Unfortunately for you the evidence points to a scenario very similar to this as being the truth of it all.

What "evidence"? Interpreted by "whom" ?

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However, my point was to suggest how farfetched the theory that Cooper landed near Tena Bar, buried the money immediately, and then returned six months later to recover it. It certainly sounds easy to write, but when you consider all of the possible variables (the weather, disorientation, adrenaline, flooding, passage of time) this theory becomes harder and harder to swallow.

Unfortunately for you the evidence points to a scenario very similar to this as being the truth of it all.

What "evidence"? Interpreted by "whom" ?

I think I've written enough to amply describe the evidence and what it tells us.

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However, my point was to suggest how farfetched the theory that Cooper landed near Tena Bar, buried the money immediately, and then returned six months later to recover it. It certainly sounds easy to write, but when you consider all of the possible variables (the weather, disorientation, adrenaline, flooding, passage of time) this theory becomes harder and harder to swallow.

Unfortunately for you the evidence points to a scenario very similar to this as being the truth of it all.

What "evidence"? Interpreted by "whom" ?

I think I've written enough to amply describe the evidence and what it tells us.

Do you have the WHOLE Palmer report ?

Why do I need the whole Palmer Report?

What does that have to do with the following:

1) The fact that DB Cooper wanted the jet to take-off from Seattle with the airstairs down, but got delayed.

2) The fact that DB Cooper wanted the ransom delivered in a knapsack, but it wasn't and he had to spend precious time improvising.

3) The fact that DB Cooper carried no luggage with him onto the flight and presumably couldn't be certain that he would have to abort the skyjacking attempt.

4) The fact that a piece of fiberglass skirt was found near Cinebar, WA by a  Boeing employee in 1975 which in all likelihood came from 305 and points to an error in the FBI Flight Path.

5) The fact that the placard was found WEST of the FBI Flight Path even though the winds were brisk and traveling to the northeast.

6) The fact that historical Columbia River levels show that the river reached the money burial spot twice between 1971 and 1980--both coincidentally in May/June.

7) The fact that Tom Kaye's research shows the money was exposed to Columbia River water only during the May/June time period.

The fact that the money was found at a spot physically impossible for it to reach naturally from the FBI search area.

9) The fact that you have three separate packets of twenties with brittle rubberbands still intact.

10) The fact that aerial photos show that the 1974 dredge did not reach the money find spot.

11) The fact that aerial photos show that the 1970 dredge did reach the money find spot.

Shall I continue? Shall we just ignore all of this evidence and more and rely solely upon the Palmer Report as if it was written by God himself?

Think.

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However, my point was to suggest how farfetched the theory that Cooper landed near Tena Bar, buried the money immediately, and then returned six months later to recover it. It certainly sounds easy to write, but when you consider all of the possible variables (the weather, disorientation, adrenaline, flooding, passage of time) this theory becomes harder and harder to swallow.

Unfortunately for you the evidence points to a scenario very similar to this as being the truth of it all.

What "evidence"? Interpreted by "whom" ?

I think I've written enough to amply describe the evidence and what it tells us.

Do you have the WHOLE Palmer report ?

Why do I need the whole Palmer Report?

What does that have to do with the following:

1) The fact that DB Cooper wanted the jet to take-off from Seattle with the airstairs down, but got delayed.

2) The fact that DB Cooper wanted the ransom delivered in a knapsack, but it wasn't and he had to spend precious time improvising.

3) The fact that DB Cooper carried no luggage with him onto the flight and presumably couldn't be certain that he would have to abort the skyjacking attempt.

4) The fact that a piece of fiberglass skirt was found near Cinebar, WA by a  Boeing employee in 1975 which in all likelihood came from 305 and points to an error in the FBI Flight Path.

5) The fact that the placard was found WEST of the FBI Flight Path even though the winds were brisk and traveling to the northeast.

6) The fact that historical Columbia River levels show that the river reached the money burial spot twice between 1971 and 1980--both coincidentally in May/June.

7) The fact that Tom Kaye's research shows the money was exposed to Columbia River water only during the May/June time period.

The fact that the money was found at a spot physically impossible for it to reach naturally from the FBI search area.

9) The fact that you have three separate packets of twenties with brittle rubberbands still intact.

10) The fact that aerial photos show that the 1974 dredge did not reach the money find spot.

11) The fact that aerial photos show that the 1970 dredge did reach the money find spot.

Shall I continue? Shall we just ignore all of this evidence and more and rely solely upon the Palmer Report as if it was written by God himself?

Think.

You posted over me - give me a month to absorb this! As I always advise you, run it by Tom Kaye also. I am always overwhelmed by your production rate. It may be pointless to even try to comment -   

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In the meantime it is abundantly clear to me for numerous reasons the "upper active layer" was simply the "upper working part" of "post dredging sand layer " also called the "cross bedded layer", Palmer identified   .... time section of which remains unidentified with any degree of accuracy!

GEORGER, on this point I completely agree. My only assertion is that these dredge spoils were not from 1974, but rather 1970.

As Tom himself has said many times, Palmer did no lab work ! I havent the faintest idea what a layer of Columbia dredge spoils looks like after 6 years, covered over by other strata.  But, USGS geologists tell me lab work would have settled the issue. And people at the Washington USGS tell me these particular dredge spoils taken where they were taken should have a particular chemistry.

I do have the feeling people are very confused at this point - so Im going to leave it there.

I do know for a fact, the Ingram money was found in the upper active working part of the cross bedded layer Palmer identified. This is a layer of sand created by successive water events over time. For all I know that cross bedded layer contains some 1974 dredging material? The cross bedded layer represents a cross section of time. What Palmer's clay lump organic layer is - I havent the faintest idea and no USGS person Ive talked to seems to know what it was either!   

Palmer didn't satisfy anyone by his work. That seems true. 

What can not be understood and I believe others are with me on this is the fact of the material from 1974 getting above the waterline with no previous high levels recorded. given the depth reported by Palmer makes it a shitload of material, not just a little. we hear over and over the Fazio's only went 50 yards north and south which doesn't even get past the northern spoil.

It could make sense that it was dredge material identified but just not from 1974. the kicker would be can it last that long. the chart above speaks of dredge material but not the year...

The answer is very simple...it cannot happen.

The spoils identified were not from 1974. How can they be? Rather they were from 1970. Obviously, a significant portion of the 1970 spoils were still in place in 1980--partly because the 1974 dredge helped mitigate erosion closer to the water's edge.

Sorry for all the confusion!   I am seeing this Flyjack doc for the first time - he is calling this the Palmer report which it is NOT.

However, the Cross Bedded layer I keep telling you the Ingram money was found in IS identified in this document - enclosed in red rectangle.

This is the cross bedded layer the upper active layer with the money was part of, I keep talking about, identified by Palmer!

See words posted below.