It is not a rumor, it is only a report on what SA Dorwin Schreuder told me.

Now, what exactly did Dorwin mean when he told me about finding a part of a cloth briefcase? Was is a false memory? He did say that his memory might be off because of his age, but he never displayed any faulty thinking in the rest of our interview or in later conversations.

Was his comment about his memory and age just a clever way to "walk back" a truth that no one is supposed to know about publicly? Maybe.

Or was it a true "senior moment?" Maybe.

Was Dorwin absolutely truthful with Georger a few years ago when G quizzed D on the briefcase and other matters pertaining to T-Bar and D said that there was no briefcase? Maybe.

But consider this: Dorwin is a super nice guy. He's the only FBI agent to invite me to his house. He spoke at length on multiple occasions about T-Bar and our conversations are what I would consider "normal." Most of my discussions/interviews with other FBI agents are stilted, scripted, or done in a guarded manner.

Also, Dorwin's grandson has written a story about Dorwin's career as an FBI agent. It's over 400 pages and only one page deals with T-Bar and Cooper. Further, the grandson writes that Dorwin left the FBI shortly after his stint in the Portland office, and he attributed D's departure as a response to the friction Dorwin had to deal with in the Portland office, most of which was triggered by Dorwin being the T-Bar PIO and then later taking over the Portland Norjak op from Himmelsbach when Ralph retired in 1980. The grandson also intimates that Dorwin had grown disenchanted with the Bureau, so retirement appeared very attractive.

So, read the tea leaves and make your own judgment. And as always - Georger, kiss my ass...

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It's the simpelist of all theories. Nobody knows if the timing was off. Nobody seems to agree on the flight path.


Cooper. Could of survived and lost the the money...If it was bundled tight it could survive the dredge...The dredge is a sloppy mess, especially in the 70"s..Lots of it could of went right back into the river since they dropped the sand right on the shoreline....

I can accept the dredge theory but no way, no how does the money get on the beach in its condition via dredging in that "intact" condition without protection of some "container"..

... that is why they were excavating the beach ... looking for any other evidence, including bio evidence of Cooper himself. A number of times they found peat-like masses of decayed 'something'. Analysis showed it was not biological (animal or human), but probably decayed wads of money. Samples were kept for lab analysis.

... the condition of the Ingram money shows (obvious) mechanical type damage. Draw your own conclusions.

... there is nothing in the KIRO or any other news report about them finding a brief case or a part of a briefcase or any other artifact beside the money, pieces of money, and decayed peat-like masses. Reporters were freely mixing with the diggers and present during the whole excavation. On the other hand reporters did report "looking for a brief case, a parachute, and other artifacts related to the case" - that much is fact.

If a brief case or any other artifacts had been found it could not have escaped attention and it would have been reported, by somebody. That's just a fact.

If the FBI had wanted to hide something it could have 'hidden and buried' the whole Ingram find, rather easily. At the very least they could have stalled it for years and still conducted an excavation at Tina Bar. It was the FBI that divulged and provided proof that Cooper money had been found and they rushed to hold a public news conference at Portland on the 13th! The Ingrams had no way at the time to know what the money they found meant! The found money could have been seized by the Sheriff's Dept and the FBI not even involved publicly! It was the Sheriff's Dept who Dwayne Ingram called second - he called a bank first on Monday. The FBI could have stayed behind the scenes and issued some cover statement saying 'we are looking into this and will get back...'. None of that happened. It was the Ingrams who were being cagey playing games! It was the FBI looking for Cooper under a Federal Legal Mandate - not the Ingram family!

People who call a few people for interviews and then write stories need to learn to pin the tail on the donkey's ass - not on some wall next to the refrigerator!  It really is as simple as that.      

Macdonalds has 'two fer $3' currently nationwide. 

 

It is not a rumor, it is only a report on what SA Dorwin Schreuder told me.

Now, what exactly did Dorwin mean when he told me about finding a part of a cloth briefcase? Was is a false memory? He did say that his memory might be off because of his age, but he never displayed any faulty thinking in the rest of our interview or in later conversations.

Was his comment about his memory and age just a clever way to "walk back" a truth that no one is supposed to know about publicly? Maybe.

Or was it a true "senior moment?" Maybe.

Was Dorwin absolutely truthful with Georger a few years ago when G quizzed D on the briefcase and other matters pertaining to T-Bar and D said that there was no briefcase? Maybe.

But consider this: Dorwin is a super nice guy. He's the only FBI agent to invite me to his house. He spoke at length on multiple occasions about T-Bar and our conversations are what I would consider "normal." Most of my discussions/interviews with other FBI agents are stilted, scripted, or done in a guarded manner.

Also, Dorwin's grandson has written a story about Dorwin's career as an FBI agent. It's over 400 pages and only one page deals with T-Bar and Cooper. Further, the grandson writes that Dorwin left the FBI shortly after his stint in the Portland office, and he attributed D's departure as a response to the friction Dorwin had to deal with in the Portland office, most of which was triggered by Dorwin being the T-Bar PIO and then later taking over the Portland Norjak op from Himmelsbach when Ralph retired in 1980. The grandson also intimates that Dorwin had grown disenchanted with the Bureau, so retirement appeared very attractive.

So, read the tea leaves and make your own judgment. And as always - Georger, kiss my ass...
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Bruce, you know you can't use that derogatory phrase here.  Such an expletive takes the conversation to a whole new level, in a negative direction.  Let's be more creative.  I don't like a lot of things a lot of people say here, and I've gotten in hot water with my reactions at times.  Believe me, I know.  Derogatory inflammatory phrases and name-calling do no one no good.  Please refrain.

Meyer

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And you base your dredge knowledge on what?


Can you explain how pieces were found at different levels 2-3 feet deep?

I have spoken to pump companies, a member was recently aboard one. In my opinion it's rather obvious not to count the dredge out. It was placed right on the crime scene.

This is a suction pump, not a fan. Even a fan wouldn't destroy everything you throw at it. I'm not saying a dredge isn't violent, but shouldn't be quickly ruled out.

If you are asking me, I don't discount the dredge theory at all, I discount the premise that the money could go through the dredge as "intact" as it was without being protected by some container. The money and "container" could have been partially shredded by the dredge, money exposed and alone would never have gone through in its found condition. The money had to have some protection going through the dredge.

That is why I suspect the initial FBI agent statement was true.. and the false statement was his "walk back"