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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5160 on: December 01, 2022, 04:54:09 PM »
Revisiting the Cooper world after learning about the New Eric Ulis suspect. Was surprised there wasn't much chatter here about it. And it seems Eric doesn't post here much anymore(?)

What are everyone's thoughts on Vince Petersen? My takeaways are as follows:

1. He is unique in the sense that he is really the first suspect to actually be connected to any physical evidence.

2. I'd like to see a photo of him taken closer to the time of the hijacking. I've seen 2 photos --- one taken 12 years before the hijacking and one taken 20+ years after. Not sure what the deal is with that.

3. History of smoking and drinking?

4. Did he have a criminal mind? Was he the type of guy that would do something like this?

5. Eric said the former supervisor named Vince and only Vince as the guy to look into among the 8 who worked in that department. Did Eric look into the other 7 guys as well?

6. I tried to find an obituary of this guy but had no luck. Anyone else?

For those of you who were at CooperCon, what was the general reaction/response to Eric's unveiling of this new suspect?
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5161 on: December 02, 2022, 08:31:34 AM »
Petersen wasn't the only new suspect, Milton Vordahl was also connected to the particles. The big discussions are on the DZ and the Facebook group.
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5162 on: December 14, 2022, 08:51:27 AM »
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Revisiting the Cooper world after learning about the New Eric Ulis suspect. Was surprised there wasn't much chatter here about it. And it seems Eric doesn't post here much anymore(?)

What are everyone's thoughts on Vince Petersen? My takeaways are as follows:

1. He is unique in the sense that he is really the first suspect to actually be connected to any physical evidence.

2. I'd like to see a photo of him taken closer to the time of the hijacking. I've seen 2 photos --- one taken 12 years before the hijacking and one taken 20+ years after. Not sure what the deal is with that.

3. History of smoking and drinking?

4. Did he have a criminal mind? Was he the type of guy that would do something like this?

5. Eric said the former supervisor named Vince and only Vince as the guy to look into among the 8 who worked in that department. Did Eric look into the other 7 guys as well?

6. I tried to find an obituary of this guy but had no luck. Anyone else?

For those of you who were at CooperCon, what was the general reaction/response to Eric's unveiling of this new suspect?

Im not sure why the titanium is only being linked to aircraft as its used very often in surgeries and in medical field.  The picture situation you mention is very important. Lets see what Tina Mucklow says about him?  Or Flo if anyone can find her. (without here slamming a door in ones face?).  The smoking and drinking may not be a big deal because whether the guy is  true smoker and drinker does not mean he could not have just done it during the crime?  Maybe to throw off the cops?  He would not have worried about DNA then and obviously the FBI did not either.  The cigarettes had at the very least, souvenir value then and later they would have been gold.  It would have either cleared or identified one of the known suspects and told us if it was truly one of them or certainly not one of them.  Now we have no idea.  I think its more likely Jack the Ripper is solved than Cooper right now. Unless one believes in Gryder's case.  It's not without merit.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5163 on: December 14, 2022, 09:26:55 AM »
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Unless one believes in Gryder's case.  It's not without merit.

Gryder jumped the shark with his latest McCoy video, claiming that he actually found the chute Cooper used. He has lost all credibility and no one should give any credence to anything he puts out Cooper related.
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5164 on: December 14, 2022, 12:55:43 PM »
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Revisiting the Cooper world after learning about the New Eric Ulis suspect. Was surprised there wasn't much chatter here about it. And it seems Eric doesn't post here much anymore(?)

What are everyone's thoughts on Vince Petersen? My takeaways are as follows:

1. He is unique in the sense that he is really the first suspect to actually be connected to any physical evidence.

2. I'd like to see a photo of him taken closer to the time of the hijacking. I've seen 2 photos --- one taken 12 years before the hijacking and one taken 20+ years after. Not sure what the deal is with that.

3. History of smoking and drinking?

4. Did he have a criminal mind? Was he the type of guy that would do something like this?

5. Eric said the former supervisor named Vince and only Vince as the guy to look into among the 8 who worked in that department. Did Eric look into the other 7 guys as well?

6. I tried to find an obituary of this guy but had no luck. Anyone else?

For those of you who were at CooperCon, what was the general reaction/response to Eric's unveiling of this new suspect?

This is what I know about Vince Petersen.

1)   VP has a direct link to the TiSb alloy, which to the best of my knowledge could only be found at Rem-Cru Titanium/Crucible Steel.
2)   VP extensively researched and wrote about the corrosive effects of salt on titanium, which may be an explanation for the large amount of salt found upon DBC’s tie.
3)   VP was 6’ 1” tall and 52 y/o at the time of the heist, which is consistent with witness (Tina, Flo, Alice, Hal) testimony.
4)   VP was the only person who traveled to Boeing with the former supervisor—this according to the former supervisor. Moreover, VP was on the Boeing production floor.
5)   VP is the only person that his former supervisor pointed to as matching DBC’s description.
6)   DBC’s tie was manufactured between 1962 – 1964, and likely purchased between 1963 – 1965.
7)   The Rem-Cru/Crucible’s Robinson titanium research lab in the Pittsburgh area opened in 1964.
8)   VP and his family moved to the Pittsburgh area from Midland, PA in 1964.
9)   Boeing’s 727—for which there are a significant number of Rem-Cru/Crucible parts—first flew in 1963 and entered service in 1964.
10)   According to his son, VP was not a smoker—at least during the 60s and 70s. Interestingly, VP would purchase cigarettes for his then-underage son.
11)   VP was a light drinker of alcohol.
12)   VP was described by his longtime neighbor as aloof and as a person who kept to himself.
13)   VP regularly wore a tie, tie-bar, and cufflinks to work.
14)   VP and his wife were not spendthrifts. VP’s son described his childhood as one whereby he felt money was tight.
15)   According to his longtime neighbor, VP briefly grew a beard. I do not know when this happened, but they were neighbors from 1965 – 1987.
16)   VP was an avid hiker.
17)   VP’s son said that he cannot see his father having been DBC. Additionally, the son stated that he always knew his father to be an honest person.
18)   VP passed away in 2002.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5165 on: December 26, 2022, 03:14:39 PM »
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Petersen wasn't the only new suspect, Milton Vordahl was also connected to the particles. The big discussions are on the DZ and the Facebook group.

For those interested in some information on Vordahl:

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #5166 on: February 16, 2023, 05:32:18 PM »
Murder case solved using just 15 cells of DNA. I’m sure you are all familiar with just how little dna that is. I’ve spoke with Mr. Mittleman before. He was very interested in the Cooper Hijacking. Everybody here would like him, he is very down to earth and humble. He is an emerging Rock Star in the Science/Forensics community.

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