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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4155 on: July 17, 2019, 02:02:00 AM »
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The cheepness plus how worn it looks leads me to believe most people would have just threw it out when they were done with it. I doubt any thrift store would pay for it. Most thrift stores and Goodwill stores and such are required to wash any clothing they take in before reselling. At least that's the case nowadays. It may have been different back then. If it was washed wouldn't it have washed off a lot of the particles that were found on it?
I tend to agree with you re the tie always having been his own - it could be a few years old, though, possibly the property of someone who rarely wore ties or hadn't worn one in a while. Apart from cheapness, it was unfashionable for the year.
 

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« Reply #4156 on: July 19, 2019, 01:08:51 AM »
I was 9 yrs. old at the time of the of the hijacking. Seems like about the same time period I remember my older brothers wearing bell bottoms, platform shoes and those real wide ties. Wasn't there also a bow tie craze around that time? Maybe the platform shoes and bow ties came a little later?
 
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« Reply #4157 on: July 19, 2019, 08:22:42 PM »
Wide ties? I remember wide lapels on suit jackets.

Speaking of which, skinny ties were a 60's thing...
 
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« Reply #4158 on: July 19, 2019, 10:09:39 PM »
I recall tie die dying out by the start of the 70's. wide colorful ties began. bell bottoms were in as well as silk flowered shirts. bright colors again. I had a pair of lime bell bottoms with imitation silk lime/green flowered dress shirt that was the bomb for the period  :rofl: long hair. big belts, mirrored shades. I recall most stations on the radio were still on AM in the early 70's.

These were the days you didn't worry about locks or alarms. using a calculator was considered cheating. 8mm movies. muscle cars. 3 local TV stations. black lights/posters. full service stations. I would go back in a second compared to this world we live in...

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« Reply #4159 on: July 20, 2019, 02:14:11 PM »
Wet my eyes and my pants ... Thanks Shutter.  Thoroughly enjoyed video!!!          Still chuckling.                    Brings back other memories.....      wide white belts                (I can't believe I am about to admit this)  I was qb on jr. high football team. Joe (willie white shoes) Namoth(sp?) had just won the Super Bowl. So of course I had to have white cleats. It was a decision I immediately regretted. I became everybodys target.             I learned how to tie a tie around this time. The tie I learned on was a wide one.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4160 on: July 21, 2019, 04:31:21 PM »
This link is from a 1971 Sears catalogue - very wide ties, garish colours, inexplicable pants - very not Cooper, n'est-ce pas?
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« Reply #4161 on: July 24, 2019, 01:48:21 AM »
Thank you Lynn. I recognize the wide tie as being similar to the one I learned on.
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4162 on: July 27, 2019, 06:13:00 PM »
Well, this is a new one on me. Have been in touch with someone close to Linn Emrich. Apparently Linn kept a journal of his observations on the Cooper case, and while I'm having some trouble reading the pages sent to me online, I'm going to try to sharpen them so I can read them. He names a suspect called Willard Whitney at one point, which is a new one on me. I don't know how much more is on him in the docs. I don't know if any of you have heard this name before? There are a few people with that name in online searches but not sure which Linn was referring to. Snowmann or someone with more access to records may be able to dig out more?
 

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« Reply #4163 on: July 27, 2019, 06:38:33 PM »
A couple of notable Willard Whitneys so far:

Willard Rosco Whitney, 1902 - 2000
Willard Rosco Whitney was born on month day 1902, at birth place, Oregon, to Hubert Vincent Whitney and Celia Whitney (born Hiddink).
Hubert was born in 1871, in Grandledge, Michigan.
Celia was born in 1882, in Oregon.
Willard had 3 siblings: Emerson Rosco Whitney and 2 other siblings.
Willard married Margaret Elizabeth Whitney.
Margaret was born on March 24 1915, in South Dakota, United States.
Willard lived in 1910, at address, Oregon.
He lived in 1920, at address, Oregon.
Willard passed away on month day 2000, at age 97 at death place, Oregon.
He was buried at burial place, Oregon.

Willard Athlyn Whitney, 1909 - 1991
Willard Athlyn Whitney was born on month day 1909, at birth place, to Ira Charles Whitney and Marcia May Whitney (born Rust).
Ira was born on February 2 1876, in Melrose, Stearns, Minnesota, United States of America.
Marcia was born in January 1877, in Monroe, Green, Wisconsin, United States of America.
Willard had 3 siblings: Delbert R Whitney and 2 other siblings.
Willard married Evelyn A "Eva" Whitney.
Evelyn was born circa 1913, in California.
They had 5 children: Ronald Ira Whitney and 4 other children.
Willard married Wilma E Whitney.
Wilma was born on October 20 1910.
Willard lived at address.
He lived at address, Washington.
He lived in 1910, at address, Minnesota.
He lived circa 1916, at address.
He lived in 1930, at address, Washington.
He lived in 1935, at address, Washington.
He lived on month day 1940, at address, Washington.
Willard passed away on month day 1991, at age 81 at death place.
He was buried at burial place, Washington.

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« Reply #4164 on: July 27, 2019, 08:59:25 PM »
Interesting that he doesn't mention Sheridan. I was wondering this and then seen a comment from Flyjack making the same reference. Eric stated that Emerich fingered Sheridan to the FBI. Flyjack posted that part confirming my thoughts.
 

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« Reply #4165 on: July 27, 2019, 09:21:25 PM »
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Interesting that he doesn't mention Sheridan. I was wondering this and then seen a comment from Flyjack making the same reference. Eric stated that Emerich fingered Sheridan to the FBI. Flyjack posted that part confirming my thoughts.
I had also thought Emrich suspected Sheridan (and who knows if he did at the start - these musings are not dated) but no, he isn't mentioned here. It synced up as Emrich did mention having a suspect in one article, did know Sheridan by Petey's own account online in a forum about batwing dives, and Sheridan's article is in the FBI docs next to a report of someone who thought a certain suspect may have been a local parachutist, or something to that effect. If anyone is in touch with Petey, it might be worth asking if HE remembers anyone by that WW name as he travelled in the same circles.  There is no other info given on the suspect.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4166 on: July 27, 2019, 09:46:43 PM »
Thoughts of a suspect are one thing....

This was posted on August 27, 2018. sounds like it's a fact vs suspecting?

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Sheridan is not a red herring. Who put Sheridan's name in the mix for the purpose of misleading?

Sheridan uses red herrings.

Also, it's worth mentioning again, Linn Emrich is the guy who fingered Sheridan as Cooper to the FBI. Sheridan is the guy that Linn is referring to in the 1971 Issaquah Press article that has recently been posted on this site. Linn hadn't seen Sheridan for 6 1/2 years at this point.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4167 on: July 28, 2019, 02:26:21 AM »
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Thoughts of a suspect are one thing....

This was posted on August 27, 2018. sounds like it's a fact vs suspecting?

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Sheridan is not a red herring. Who put Sheridan's name in the mix for the purpose of misleading?

Sheridan uses red herrings.

Also, it's worth mentioning again, Linn Emrich is the guy who fingered Sheridan as Cooper to the FBI. Sheridan is the guy that Linn is referring to in the 1971 Issaquah Press article that has recently been posted on this site. Linn hadn't seen Sheridan for 6 1/2 years at this point.
Apparently Linn kept a lot of stuff. I hope he kept a list of the skydivers who were in his club. This name he's mentioning must have come from somewhere - I've seen it nowhere else in relation to this case.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4168 on: July 28, 2019, 02:55:59 AM »
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Thoughts of a suspect are one thing....

This was posted on August 27, 2018. sounds like it's a fact vs suspecting?

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Sheridan is not a red herring. Who put Sheridan's name in the mix for the purpose of misleading?

Sheridan uses red herrings.

Also, it's worth mentioning again, Linn Emrich is the guy who fingered Sheridan as Cooper to the FBI. Sheridan is the guy that Linn is referring to in the 1971 Issaquah Press article that has recently been posted on this site. Linn hadn't seen Sheridan for 6 1/2 years at this point.
It IS a certainty that Sheridan knew Emrich around 1965, per Petey's own comment on an  online article called Wingsuits and Flying Inside a Box

Sheridan Peterson, D-2024 says:
March 27, 2010 at 6:55 pm
On my fortieth birthday. May 2, 1965, I made my first “batwing” skydive at the Issaquah Sport Parachute Club just east of Seattle. A seamstress sewed patches of denim to a pair of coveralls beneath both arms and between the legs. The space from my elbow to my wrist was held in place with a cord that was looped over the thumb. Just prior to reaching in for the pull, I’d slip the loop from my thumb.

Because the Parachute Club of America, the USPA’s predecessor, prohibited the use of “batwings”, the club safety officer forbid me to jump. However, Linn Emerick [sic] (C-1036) interceded. He said that he saw nothing wrong with the wings. It was his club and if I wanted to jump them I had his authorization.

I made a thirty second delay from seventy-two hundred feet; however the wings slowed my decent, so I assume that it was a forty or forty-five second delay. I wrote in my log book that the wings improved my stability and that the turns were slower. I made a second thirty second that day.

My “batwing” venture ended three years later in Vietnam. Although I was the president and jump master of the Saigon Sport Parachute Club, Sgt. Ray Duffy, A Golden Knight, tore the wings from my coveralls at a meeting while I was in the Mekong Delta working as a Refugee Advisor. He too said that “batwings” were prohibited.
Sheridan Peterson D-2024
Windsor, California

Emrich died in 2002, so this comment by SP would have come several years later.

I would just very like to know the names of ALL the members of that Skydiving club.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4169 on: July 28, 2019, 03:50:20 AM »
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A couple of notable Willard Whitneys so far:

Willard Rosco Whitney, 1902 - 2000
Willard Rosco Whitney was born on month day 1902, at birth place, Oregon, to Hubert Vincent Whitney and Celia Whitney (born Hiddink).
Hubert was born in 1871, in Grandledge, Michigan.
Celia was born in 1882, in Oregon.
Willard had 3 siblings: Emerson Rosco Whitney and 2 other siblings.
Willard married Margaret Elizabeth Whitney.
Margaret was born on March 24 1915, in South Dakota, United States.
Willard lived in 1910, at address, Oregon.
He lived in 1920, at address, Oregon.
Willard passed away on month day 2000, at age 97 at death place, Oregon.
He was buried at burial place, Oregon.

Willard Athlyn Whitney, 1909 - 1991
Willard Athlyn Whitney was born on month day 1909, at birth place, to Ira Charles Whitney and Marcia May Whitney (born Rust).
Ira was born on February 2 1876, in Melrose, Stearns, Minnesota, United States of America.
Marcia was born in January 1877, in Monroe, Green, Wisconsin, United States of America.
Willard had 3 siblings: Delbert R Whitney and 2 other siblings.
Willard married Evelyn A "Eva" Whitney.
Evelyn was born circa 1913, in California.
They had 5 children: Ronald Ira Whitney and 4 other children.
Willard married Wilma E Whitney.
Wilma was born on October 20 1910.
Willard lived at address.
He lived at address, Washington.
He lived in 1910, at address, Minnesota.
He lived circa 1916, at address.
He lived in 1930, at address, Washington.
He lived in 1935, at address, Washington.
He lived on month day 1940, at address, Washington.
Willard passed away on month day 1991, at age 81 at death place.
He was buried at burial place, Washington.

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Sorry, these 2 Willard Whitneys are too old. It's tricky, because it could also be a false name, a partial name (ex. if the man had both the family names Willard and Whitney following another given name; he could even have been Whitney Willard.) I might try an ancestry.com free trial at some point to dig deeper into the Willard Whitneys of the world, but if he happened to turn up in any of Marty or Dovid's databases, or on a skydiving club list, that might be more helpful in identifying who he was. I can't even find an older photo of anyone by that name on Google search.
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