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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #960 on: November 29, 2015, 07:38:46 PM »
Basically, the whole thing is based on two guys who didn't show up for Thanksgiving? why was that, they were still in hijack mode? it was the night before. alibi, alibi....no?

Isn't Helen Jones the one who raced back to the producers to change the brand Kenny smoked?

When, and if these people decide to come forward in one of America's greatest unsolved mysteries, I can only assume lots, and lots of things are being taken out of context with this story.

It's also ridiculous to say Kenny avoided dinners, and meetings for NWA. he seems to have been all over the place with them. his mug was seen by plenty of employee's, so why hide from an event? sounds like another misleading event like the large sum of money in his account.. 20 years later someone will stand up and say "hey it's DB Cooper" ? give me a break... :-\

all of these people accuse him after he's dead. nobody, including his brother confronted him, or joked with him? all of this from Lyle wanting to make a movie about his brother being Cooper?
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #961 on: November 29, 2015, 08:11:45 PM »
Georger, I agree with everything you stated in your previous post.  If Christiansen shared at least one physical trait with Cooper, I might take him bit more serious as a suspect.  But, everything is wrong.  Wrong height, wrong eye color, wrong hair, etc.  Nothing matches, except both Christiansen and Cooper were males.  The FBI wrote Christensen off almost a decade ago, and rightly so.  And yet, Mr. Blevins believes that he can "will" Christensen into being Cooper. 

I do believe that Mr. Blevins believes that Christiansen was Cooper with all his heart.  This is reaffirmed by his actions, which include sending "reports" to the FBI, incessant online posting about Christensen and attacking anyone who disagrees with his position on the subject.  Again, this is just my opinion, but I do NOT believe Mr. Blevins is deliberately lying about Christiansen and Geestman, I think he really believes this fantasy he has created about this is real.  He doesn't understand how we don't see what is so obvious to him, just as we don't understand how he still takes the Christiansen myth seriously. 

This becomes a serious problem because the actions of Mr. Blevins mislead people searching for information concerning the Cooper case.  We have all seen how someone’s strong belief in something false can lead to disastrous consequences (Nazis, Jonestown,).  Another unfortunate byproduct of his delusion is his interactions with the FBI, which tie up valuable resources and quite frankly, makes anybody involved with the case look like a complete crackpot. 

The saddest thing about this is the reputation of a good man, Kenneth Christensen, who was a veteran, a hero, has been besmirched by Mr. Blevins delusions.  Who will defend this good man’s reputation?
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #962 on: November 29, 2015, 08:54:58 PM »
I'm not so sure about Mr. Blevins. we have multiple stories, and events. this could only come from things not correct, or true. he quickly changes things once something is realized. when the house was found not being purchased in cash I asked him how Carolyn Powell could make such a statement. he replied he was wrong, and she didn't know him that well? only one person was stating Kenny purchased his house in cash.

Then we have the DNA story. this goes all over the place. Skipp did it, skipp and Lyle did it. this was before Robert was around, and yet he states recently that Lyle was wondering where the story came from? he states years ago Lyle said two agents came to his house to take a sample (a brief visit). if Lyle wonders where the story came from, how could he be involved in it?

The money found on the property is all over the place as well. 3 different stories. Robert also stated they took an ad out in the paper, but he saves everything, but it hasn't been brought up in years.

The stamp collection has multiple numbers around it, but I don't think Robert remembers stating on the DZ he had documents? that story disappeared as well.

He takes so many things out of context. when Bernies ex sold her property he made it look like something was fishy? she disappeared? really, I'll bet she can easily be found.

Keep in mind we are dealing with a Sci-Fi writer. someone who makes things up. Lyle is also known to be "creative" ....Parrot summed it up pretty good. "there is a liar in the Christiansen story"...we basically have one person speaking for everyone. ya don't have to look very far, do ya?
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #963 on: November 29, 2015, 09:08:10 PM »
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The saddest thing about this is the reputation of a good man, Kenneth Christensen, who was a veteran, a hero, has been besmirched by Mr. Blevins delusions.  Who will defend this good man’s reputation?

I will.

Every man has the right - some might say the duty - to invite runaway boys off the street and to come live with them. And buy them gifts from trips to the Orient, and take them out to dinner in restaurants.

Now, others might say that is the classic grooming behavior of a pedophile, but let's not quibble. After all, we're also calling this guy "a hero" for being "a veteran."
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #964 on: November 29, 2015, 09:12:52 PM »
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Who will defend this good man’s reputation?

Not his brother. he drags him through the mud as well. according to the only speaker in the story. Kenny's friends are also dragging his reputation right through the swaps. if that's truly what these people are saying...the jury is still out on that one  ::)
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #965 on: November 29, 2015, 09:39:52 PM »
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After all, we're also calling this guy "a hero" for being "a veteran."

I think Kenny deserves that title. he did go over seas. he didn't see any action, but he was there.

My fathers headstone reads "US Navy Vietnam" he was no where near Vietnam...
 

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« Reply #966 on: November 29, 2015, 11:34:27 PM »
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Basically, the whole thing is based on two guys who didn't show up for Thanksgiving? why was that, they were still in hijack mode? it was the night before. alibi, alibi....no?

Isn't Helen Jones the one who raced back to the producers to change the brand Kenny smoked?

When, and if these people decide to come forward in one of America's greatest unsolved mysteries, I can only assume lots, and lots of things are being taken out of context with this story.

It's also ridiculous to say Kenny avoided dinners, and meetings for NWA. he seems to have been all over the place with them. his mug was seen by plenty of employee's, so why hide from an event? sounds like another misleading event like the large sum of money in his account.. 20 years later someone will stand up and say "hey it's DB Cooper" ? give me a break... :-\

all of these people accuse him after he's dead. nobody, including his brother confronted him, or joked with him? all of this from Lyle wanting to make a movie about his brother being Cooper?

All of the above true.

Lyle and another family member have a well known history of trying to sell local girls, movie ideas, etc to Hollywood, in addition to his filing of patents. Blevins and Decoded producers conveniently left that glaring factoid out! Gray the same! Gray exploited an opportunity to publish something 'new' in the Cooperphelia when he didn't think Kenny had been DB Cooper at all. 

When Lyle told Porteous he had a good idea for a movie, he was serious ... and here we are today with all of this baloney via Robert Blevins.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #967 on: November 29, 2015, 11:38:40 PM »
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I'm not so sure about Mr. Blevins. we have multiple stories, and events. this could only come from things not correct, or true. he quickly changes things once something is realized. when the house was found not being purchased in cash I asked him how Carolyn Powell could make such a statement. he replied he was wrong, and she didn't know him that well? only one person was stating Kenny purchased his house in cash.

Then we have the DNA story. this goes all over the place. Skipp did it, skipp and Lyle did it. this was before Robert was around, and yet he states recently that Lyle was wondering where the story came from? he states years ago Lyle said two agents came to his house to take a sample (a brief visit). if Lyle wonders where the story came from, how could he be involved in it?

The money found on the property is all over the place as well. 3 different stories. Robert also stated they took an ad out in the paper, but he saves everything, but it hasn't been brought up in years.

The stamp collection has multiple numbers around it, but I don't think Robert remembers stating on the DZ he had documents? that story disappeared as well.

He takes so many things out of context. when Bernies ex sold her property he made it look like something was fishy? she disappeared? really, I'll bet she can easily be found.

Keep in mind we are dealing with a Sci-Fi writer. someone who makes things up. Lyle is also known to be "creative" ....Parrot summed it up pretty good. "there is a liar in the Christiansen story"...we basically have one person speaking for everyone. ya don't have to look very far, do ya?

Blevins is a self-alleged self-promoted sci-fi writer. ... among other things.  I think Mr. Blevins is just "delusional" and not honest.
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« Reply #968 on: November 30, 2015, 01:12:25 AM »
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Blevins is a self-alleged self-promoted sci-fi writer. ... among other things.  I think Mr. Blevins is just "delusional" and not honest.

And a lousy science-fiction writer at that.
 

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« Reply #969 on: November 30, 2015, 05:42:56 PM »
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After all, we're also calling this guy "a hero" for being "a veteran."

I think Kenny deserves that title. he did go over seas. he didn't see any action, but he was there.

My fathers headstone reads "US Navy Vietnam" he was no where near Vietnam...

There were vets who were in Vietnam (Vietnam vets) and ones who were in the military during a time when they could have been sent to Vietnam (Vietnam era vets). The lines get blurred sometimes but both deserve credit. I have a friend who was a Vietnam era vet, but over time he has blurred the distinction and now sometimes tells people he is a Vietnam vet. That is stretching the truth. He volunteered during a dangerous time, and he is old, so I give him some slack.

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« Reply #970 on: November 30, 2015, 05:45:20 PM »
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After all, we're also calling this guy "a hero" for being "a veteran."

I think Kenny deserves that title. he did go over seas. he didn't see any action, but he was there.

My fathers headstone reads "US Navy Vietnam" he was no where near Vietnam...

There were vets who were in Vietnam (Vietnam vets) and ones who were in the military during a time when they could have been sent to Vietnam (Vietnam era vets). The lines get blurred sometimes but both deserve credit. I have a friend who was a Vietnam era vet, but over time he has blurred the distinction and now sometimes tells people he is a Vietnam vet. That is stretching the truth. He volunteered during a dangerous time, and he is old, so I give him some slack.

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Yep, they told us that at the memorial. I spoke with R99 about it several months ago. I was just pointing out how things are sometimes with military honor.
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« Reply #971 on: November 30, 2015, 06:06:02 PM »
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After all, we're also calling this guy "a hero" for being "a veteran."

I think Kenny deserves that title. he did go over seas. he didn't see any action, but he was there.

My fathers headstone reads "US Navy Vietnam" he was no where near Vietnam...

There were vets who were in Vietnam (Vietnam vets) and ones who were in the military during a time when they could have been sent to Vietnam (Vietnam era vets). The lines get blurred sometimes but both deserve credit. I have a friend who was a Vietnam era vet, but over time he has blurred the distinction and now sometimes tells people he is a Vietnam vet. That is stretching the truth. He volunteered during a dangerous time, and he is old, so I give him some slack.

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During a Vets meeting years ago we had a fairly young guy walk in and introduce himself as having served in the "Revolutionary" War. We all kind of looked at each other. Gary, next to me started to snicker under his breath. I put my elbow into his ribs. He elbowed me back. Almost in unison the whole group started to laugh out loud. A biker vet jumped up and was across the room before we could intervene and now he has this guy by the neck lifting the guy up off the floor. I was laughing so hard I couldn't move a muscle to help ... the counselor ran to her office to call the police.  We went through that shit about five times in the two years we had that group. It surprised me how opinion split. Some were in favor of giving the 'pretenders' slack, some wanted them taken out and ... and some were too inside themselves and dealing with serious problems to care one way or the other. You run into everything at one time or another. It's all in a day's work.  ;D   Hell. Some people want to be Jewish. Some people want to be black. Some people just want to make it through a day and come out the other end still ok. Some people have an agenda for everybody and those are the people I fear most -   
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #972 on: November 30, 2015, 06:42:59 PM »
Galen sent me an email...apparently the suspect has been found  ;D


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« Reply #973 on: November 30, 2015, 07:52:45 PM »
Just trying to up the civility level here. Tis the season...

Jo tagged Marla with the "Miss Twisty Butt" moniker. It's funny and I had a laugh about it, but it is not a compliment. I think it's uncalled for and we shouldn't use it here. I am by no means a PC fanatic, just ask my skydive buddies, but that Twisty Butt name kinda implies sexual improprieties or influence and there is no evidence to support that. Jo was just pissed that Marla became the new DBC starlet and started getting a ton of publicity. LD eclipsed Duane for a while and Jo didn't like it one bit. 

It's a semi-democracy here, so what does the group think about my suggestion? Can we take the high road folks?

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« Reply #974 on: November 30, 2015, 08:30:07 PM »
The name kinda stuck...it's not used enough to even bother with. I think Jo was using the reference to her flaunting herself on television, being above everyone, miss perfect and all. a none sexual reference.

Twisty Butt isn't even vulgar....do we also ban "stuck up" "Gold Digger" "Attention Seeker"

I can think of a lot worse words that would cause me to step in, but Twisty Butt doesn't seem worth filtering out against peoples freedom of speech. I'm curious to what others will say about this subject....
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