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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4965 on: May 20, 2022, 05:37:34 PM »
Be careful of what you wish far, Robert. This individual is, um, kinda out there... but he may be onto something.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4966 on: May 23, 2022, 11:34:19 AM »
There doesn't seem to be much discussion about this here, but Eric Ulis, Nicky B, and others have been following a line of inquiry with the tie particles (specifically a rare titanium-antimony alloy) that led them to a company call Rem-Cru which was based in Pittsburgh. Specifically, it led them to their research laboratory which reduced the number of people to only 7-8. Eric claims he has zeroed in on one man in that department in 1971 who "checks all the boxes".

Tom Kaye has signed off on Eric's logic apparently. Here are some videos of Eric explaining these developments.



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« Reply #4967 on: May 23, 2022, 02:25:31 PM »
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There doesn't seem to be much discussion about this here, but Eric Ulis, Nicky B, and others have been following a line of inquiry with the tie particles (specifically a rare titanium-antimony alloy) that led them to a company call Rem-Cru which was based in Pittsburgh. Specifically, it led them to their research laboratory which reduced the number of people to only 7-8. Eric claims he has zeroed in on one man in that department in 1971 who "checks all the boxes".

Tom Kaye has signed off on Eric's logic apparently. Here are some videos of Eric explaining these developments.





Surprising lack of discussion across the forums (other than Facebook). Looks likely to be a real breakthrough.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4968 on: May 23, 2022, 08:30:42 PM »
I’m shocked no one else is talking it as well. Seems pretty legit.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4969 on: May 23, 2022, 09:06:48 PM »
I saw the first video about this new tie lead a few weeks back, but hadn't seen the second one until Chaucer posted today.  It seems like an interesting/promising lead, but not a lot of data to sync some teeth into just yet.  I haven't been to the Facebook page, perhaps there are more details there.  EU used to post here all the time...

It would be really interesting if they can get some old clothes from one of the former workers in that same division and see if some of the same elements are there that were on Cooper's tie, i.e. the steel and titanium smashed together, metal shavings.

Of course, the devils advocate position is that the tie was picked up in a goodwill shop and wasn't really Cooper's.  But in any investigation, and particularly one like this that is 50 years old, you have to follow what you have in front of you and explore every lead.


 
 

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« Reply #4970 on: May 23, 2022, 11:18:18 PM »
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I’m shocked no one else is talking it as well. Seems pretty legit.

Ru more. Plus its not even accessible to some. Ulis saw to that! Kaye says this - Kaye says that. Kaye hasnt posted here in a year. We thot we knew him!  :-\   

Ulis has taken the Cooper case to a new level not even accessible to mere mortals. Kaye followed right along. 

Its beyond human comprehension ?  ;)

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« Reply #4971 on: May 24, 2022, 09:55:28 AM »
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Ru more. Plus its not even accessible to some. Ulis saw to that! Kaye says this - Kaye says that. Kaye hasnt posted here in a year. We thot we knew him!  :-\   

Ulis has taken the Cooper case to a new level not even accessible to mere mortals. Kaye followed right along. 

Its beyond human comprehension ?  ;)

[DB Cooper was a unicorn from the Fifth Dimension accessible only to a few with the right qualifications.]     

It’s comments like this that explain why it isn’t being discussed here. Are you feeling okay georger? Seems like a lot of the things you post don’t make any sense. I hope you’re okay.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4972 on: May 24, 2022, 02:17:59 PM »
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There doesn't seem to be much discussion about this here, but Eric Ulis, Nicky B, and others have been following a line of inquiry with the tie particles (specifically a rare titanium-antimony alloy) that led them to a company call Rem-Cru which was based in Pittsburgh. Specifically, it led them to their research laboratory which reduced the number of people to only 7-8. Eric claims he has zeroed in on one man in that department in 1971 who "checks all the boxes".

Tom Kaye has signed off on Eric's logic apparently. Here are some videos of Eric explaining these developments.





I suppose part of the lack of enthusiasm comes from the fact that the story isn't finished yet - we're getting the updates in real time without the suspect name or other corroborating info at this point.  Also, both Eric and NickyB have advanced other suspects in the past, so some people may be scratching their heads at this, now that they are going this direction. I'm glad they've kept their minds open.

My take: this is an awesome development.
 It takes a certain level of diligence to go back to the tie evidence and review it, particle by particle.  The methodology is sound here in that they are trying to narrow, as best as they can, the pieces of evidence that point to a narrow pool of suspects.

They've said it must be someone who worked at RemCru, assigned to a special group, who would have been exposed to this special "experimental" alloy. I hope they keep an open mind as they sift through further evidence, and not get too locked in to someone in that research group - i.e. could it have been an upper level manager, could it have been a guy who only worked in the group for a few weeks before being transferred, etc.

I hope they are closely documenting (or even audio recording) the conversations with the 89 year who worked with the best match suspect.   If NickyB's tapes include the hijackers voice, then it would be interesting to have this person comment on the tape.

If this leads to solving the case, I'm all for them getting the credit.
 
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« Reply #4973 on: May 24, 2022, 03:06:51 PM »
Under United States Patent 2,796,347 issued June 18, 1957, Robert I. Jaffee, Worthington, and Horace R.. Ogden, Columbus, Ohio, and Ralph A. Happe, Anaheim, Calif., assigned a patent for titanium base alloys containing antimony to Rem-Cru Titanium Inc., Midland, Pa.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4974 on: May 24, 2022, 06:02:32 PM »
I'd like to know more about the titanium-antimony alloy.

Tom?
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4975 on: May 24, 2022, 11:32:35 PM »
Hello everyone. Bruce has inquired if I could start posting on this site.
I am "Jack" and somewhat hesitant to join in, but willing to try as a request from  Bruce.
I am from Canada and had heard of db cooper but knew nothing intimate about the case.
I contacted Bruce a few months ago and offered to do up a cold profile of Cooper from what little evidence was available.
I did so, and if anyone is interested,  I will be glad to post it

Jack
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4976 on: May 25, 2022, 12:41:01 AM »
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Hello everyone. Bruce has inquired if I could start posting on this site.
I am "Jack" and somewhat hesitant to join in, but willing to try as a request from  Bruce.
I am from Canada and had heard of db cooper but knew nothing intimate about the case.
I contacted Bruce a few months ago and offered to do up a cold profile of Cooper from what little evidence was available.
I did so, and if anyone is interested,  I will be glad to post it

Jack

Jack, thanks for joining, and please post your profile of Cooper.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4977 on: May 25, 2022, 01:18:01 AM »
Profile created by RPF (Jack):

Profile of the 1971 flight 305 unknown hijacker referred to as Dan (D.B) Cooper.

At one point in his life, most likely attended or seriously thought about attending a  Seminary training school.

He has a strong attachment to his father, or a father like figure despite having attachment issues to others close to him.

He covets personal inanimate objects.
He will tend to show more affection to his personal possessions than to the human beings around him.
Not so much in a devastating cold like manner,  but it's just him, who he is.
He's nice and likeable but he can be
also easily forgettable.

He chose the weapon that would elicit the greatest fear and get him the least resistance.
The 'bomb' is his voice.
He had issues standing/speaking up for himself growing up and thus he's always compromising when faced with confrontations.

He has void within himself where he feels unremarkable so he does what he feels are remarkable things to try and fill that void.

Creative thinker
Visualizer
Meticulous planner
Tatical training
No fear of death, doesn't mean he had a death wish.

Attention seeker and the resulting attention is self satisfying enough for him even if he isn't personally acknowledged.
Doesn't have to announce afterwards,  look it's me-----look it's me.

Has an interest in law enforcement and would want to be in a job post hijacking that brought him close to law enforcement not necessarily being an actual law enforcement officer.

Parachuting experience, both day and night times and in inclimate weather.
He would have welcomed the bad weather.
Had some or extensive survivalist training.
Familiar with the Jump and landing area.

If the Dan Cooper comic book character is the Dan Cooper relation, he had spent time in the area where it was circulated.

Everything so far about Cooper points to the aspect that the bomb was either a complete fake or it was never in danger of being activated.

He was either single at the time of the hijacking, most likely separated or divorced, or he had a job that could take him away from family if needed. Or it was a combination of both.

The event began as a simple fantasy. He probably never thought it would ever become reality. Fantasized in stages so he would have doodled stuff on paper. Possibly in his own covert language.

The money was not his primary focus in his fantasy. It was initially all about the plane and the jump.

Somewhat recent stressor point in his life caused it to go from fantasy to reality.
Examples:
Separation, Divorce, Job loss.


Jack




 
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4978 on: May 25, 2022, 09:04:15 AM »
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Profile created by RPF (Jack):

Profile of the 1971 flight 305 unknown hijacker referred to as Dan (D.B) Cooper.

At one point in his life, most likely attended or seriously thought about attending a  Seminary training school.

He has a strong attachment to his father, or a father like figure despite having attachment issues to others close to him.

He covets personal inanimate objects.
He will tend to show more affection to his personal possessions than to the human beings around him.
Not so much in a devastating cold like manner,  but it's just him, who he is.
He's nice and likeable but he can be
also easily forgettable.

He chose the weapon that would elicit the greatest fear and get him the least resistance.
The 'bomb' is his voice.
He had issues standing/speaking up for himself growing up and thus he's always compromising when faced with confrontations.

He has void within himself where he feels unremarkable so he does what he feels are remarkable things to try and fill that void.

Creative thinker
Visualizer
Meticulous planner
Tatical training
No fear of death, doesn't mean he had a death wish.

Attention seeker and the resulting attention is self satisfying enough for him even if he isn't personally acknowledged.
Doesn't have to announce afterwards,  look it's me-----look it's me.

Has an interest in law enforcement and would want to be in a job post hijacking that brought him close to law enforcement not necessarily being an actual law enforcement officer.

Parachuting experience, both day and night times and in inclimate weather.
He would have welcomed the bad weather.
Had some or extensive survivalist training.
Familiar with the Jump and landing area.

If the Dan Cooper comic book character is the Dan Cooper relation, he had spent time in the area where it was circulated.

Everything so far about Cooper points to the aspect that the bomb was either a complete fake or it was never in danger of being activated.

He was either single at the time of the hijacking, most likely separated or divorced, or he had a job that could take him away from family if needed. Or it was a combination of both.

The event began as a simple fantasy. He probably never thought it would ever become reality. Fantasized in stages so he would have doodled stuff on paper. Possibly in his own covert language.

The money was not his primary focus in his fantasy. It was initially all about the plane and the jump.

Somewhat recent stressor point in his life caused it to go from fantasy to reality.
Examples:
Separation, Divorce, Job loss.


Jack

Read the book by Max Gunther.
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4979 on: May 25, 2022, 09:25:08 AM »
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Profile created by RPF (Jack):

Profile of the 1971 flight 305 unknown hijacker referred to as Dan (D.B) Cooper.

At one point in his life, most likely attended or seriously thought about attending a  Seminary training school.

He has a strong attachment to his father, or a father like figure despite having attachment issues to others close to him.

He covets personal inanimate objects.
He will tend to show more affection to his personal possessions than to the human beings around him.
Not so much in a devastating cold like manner,  but it's just him, who he is.
He's nice and likeable but he can be
also easily forgettable.

He chose the weapon that would elicit the greatest fear and get him the least resistance.
The 'bomb' is his voice.
He had issues standing/speaking up for himself growing up and thus he's always compromising when faced with confrontations.

He has void within himself where he feels unremarkable so he does what he feels are remarkable things to try and fill that void.

Creative thinker
Visualizer
Meticulous planner
Tatical training
No fear of death, doesn't mean he had a death wish.

Attention seeker and the resulting attention is self satisfying enough for him even if he isn't personally acknowledged.
Doesn't have to announce afterwards,  look it's me-----look it's me.

Has an interest in law enforcement and would want to be in a job post hijacking that brought him close to law enforcement not necessarily being an actual law enforcement officer.

Parachuting experience, both day and night times and in inclimate weather.
He would have welcomed the bad weather.
Had some or extensive survivalist training.
Familiar with the Jump and landing area.

If the Dan Cooper comic book character is the Dan Cooper relation, he had spent time in the area where it was circulated.

Everything so far about Cooper points to the aspect that the bomb was either a complete fake or it was never in danger of being activated.

He was either single at the time of the hijacking, most likely separated or divorced, or he had a job that could take him away from family if needed. Or it was a combination of both.

The event began as a simple fantasy. He probably never thought it would ever become reality. Fantasized in stages so he would have doodled stuff on paper. Possibly in his own covert language.

The money was not his primary focus in his fantasy. It was initially all about the plane and the jump.

Somewhat recent stressor point in his life caused it to go from fantasy to reality.
Examples:
Separation, Divorce, Job loss.


Jack

Read the book by Max Gunther.

Martin that is the first thing I thought of too as I was reading this.

Jack: Welcome to the group.  Good approach.  We may never know some of these reasons/ideas, but it is a good exercise to be thinking about what was going through his mind, where he came from, where he went, etc.  You'll quickly find that getting consensus on things is almost impossible.  To Martin's point, if you get a chance and haven't done so, take a look at Max Gunther's book DB Cooper: What Really Happened.  Max attempts to build a profile of Cooper.  Save yourself some money and don't buy an inflated priced book online.  There are PDFs of it floating around.
 
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