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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #2880 on: February 07, 2017, 04:57:43 PM »
You are implying a conspiracy started right after the hijacking. they FBI files were taken that evening, so they would of had to work extremely quick to get everyone to say the same thing about what Cooper was wearing...
 

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« Reply #2881 on: February 07, 2017, 05:01:02 PM »
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You are implying a conspiracy started right after the hijacking. they FBI files were taken that evening, so they would of had to work extremely quick to get everyone to say the same thing about what Cooper was wearing...

Seems odd he would jump with loafers, back when chutes were crappy and one easily will break ankle. So he comes prepared with a nylon suit underneath among other things, and then its amateur night and wears loafers.  Maybe he packed jumping boots in the bag he had, and slipped them on when Mucklow went to the cockpit.
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« Reply #2882 on: February 07, 2017, 05:04:37 PM »
Many stated he could of been injured in the jump. that doesn't mean he had too, but most of the suspects always speak of an injury. the bag wasn't big enough for boots..
 

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« Reply #2883 on: February 07, 2017, 05:07:25 PM »
I don't know how long you have been researching Cooper, but the questions of loafers, and injuries have been discussed a thousand times. it's one of the reasons people are not sure of his experience. going by a book, and simply closing everything else out isn't the best way to go..it's going against a lot of known, and accepted evidence. the tin can bomb is not one of them either...
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #2884 on: February 07, 2017, 05:25:07 PM »
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Have you ever thought of Clara being lied too?

Of course, but Clara says she removed his boots, she destroyed the chute... in the first person here...     not that she was told by LeClair that he wore boots, not loafers, that he destroyed the chute himself, etc.

Yes. She is the first person when she said she helped destroy the "bright red and yellow chute". I dismissed her story after reading this on page 16 in Gunther's book.

Did you read 377's post about military chutes and the reasons for their colors? Cooper jumped with a military chute. It would have not been bright red and yellow in color.

Also, you have stated that the tie LeClair wore to work, prior to leaving his first family, was Cooper's tie. If LeClair left his family  without a plan and just disappeared, why would he bring his tie cross country to his next adventure as a hotel maintenance guy? He did not leave his job and disappear. He left the family home and disappeared. The first time he tried to leave his family he made it look like he had drowned in the ocean. Yes, he had clothes stashed, but a suit and tie?
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #2885 on: February 07, 2017, 07:38:43 PM »
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So he comes prepared with a nylon suit underneath

Let me guess, Clara? we can't really say that, it's pure speculation. especially since we are talking about someone never identified to exist..

 

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« Reply #2886 on: February 07, 2017, 08:32:20 PM »
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Have you ever thought of Clara being lied too?

Of course, but Clara says she removed his boots, she destroyed the chute... in the first person here...     not that she was told by LeClair that he wore boots, not loafers, that he destroyed the chute himself, etc.
Did you read 377's post about military chutes and the reasons for their colors? Cooper jumped with a military chute. It would have not been bright red and yellow in color.
 Yes, he had clothes stashed, but a suit and tie?
Yes, I did that about the chutes. I also understand there is alot of bad info out there, so as one FBI office would solve and get the reward. I also understand that the FBI deliberately put out alot of bad info on purpose.
And regarding the suit and tie, I recall Clara said he got the suit locally.  Regardless, a tie is something a guy who disappears, when he nothing but the few things he may need for his next life, it is quite logical he would bring his old tie, to use to find work in the field he was in.
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« Reply #2887 on: February 07, 2017, 08:38:02 PM »
diclemeg, have you read the FBI files? they were taken shortly after the hijacking, so a lot of good solid information is in these documents? are you implying the bad information started that evening? these are actual facts, and not from a book..
 

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« Reply #2888 on: February 07, 2017, 08:40:00 PM »
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I also understand that the FBI deliberately put out alot of bad info on purpose.

Please, explain?
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #2889 on: February 07, 2017, 09:15:09 PM »
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You are implying a conspiracy started right after the hijacking. they FBI files were taken that evening, so they would of had to work extremely quick to get everyone to say the same thing about what Cooper was wearing...

Agree.

Cover-up and conspiracy theories are a REALLY hard sell for me. It's tempting to resort to them when you can't make the puzzle pieces fit, but that temptation must be resisted. I think it's nuts to conclude that the FBI knows who Cooper was and is covering it up. So what if he was CIA? Much worse CIA skullduggery has been exposed by the feds. It's also nuts to think the govt staged NORJACK to justify increased airline security. No justification is needed for new safety and security rules. Arbitrary and capricious regulatory decision making is SOP for Washington DC.

Put your suspect on the plane. Show me some fresh clean Cooper twenties. That's the way to my NORJACK heart.

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« Reply #2890 on: February 07, 2017, 09:26:35 PM »
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I also understand that the FBI deliberately put out alot of bad info on purpose.

Please, explain?

Did Himmelsbach not give Gunther false information?
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« Reply #2891 on: February 07, 2017, 09:35:02 PM »
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I also understand that the FBI deliberately put out alot of bad info on purpose.

Please, explain?

Did Himmelsbach not give Gunther false information?

What did he tell him?
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #2892 on: February 07, 2017, 09:36:01 PM »
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I also understand that the FBI deliberately put out alot of bad info on purpose.

Please, explain?

Did Himmelsbach not give Gunther false information?

If Himmelsbach did give Gunther false information, it was 12 - 14 years after the hi-jacking. Gunthers book was copyrighted in 1985.  It would not generate false information within hours/days of the hijacking.

What false information do you claim the FBI gave within days of the hi-jacking?
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« Reply #2893 on: February 07, 2017, 09:38:19 PM »
Where did the story of Scott being in the back of the plane come from? who told the story of the chute?

Again, where is any physical evidence, or even physical proof of Clara?
 

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« Reply #2894 on: February 07, 2017, 10:18:38 PM »
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I also understand that the FBI deliberately put out alot of bad info on purpose.

Please, explain?

Did Himmelsbach not give Gunther false information?

What did he tell him?

Maybe I should ask you what he told him, since wasn't it you who said that you were wondering why Himmelsbach gave him false info?  Is was you, right?   I caught on to the game you're playing.  The message has been deleted.
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