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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1860 on: May 16, 2018, 01:16:05 PM »
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Kermit. Did the authorities ever discuss the trains? Did Skychefs cater the railroads? Even with DNA or photos, this legend will always live on. It does not want to be solved. Any new suspect will just add to the legend. We will see a new suspect soon. Records will show a heavy, heavy smoker, on the railroad, who would have been very familiar with Benzadrine to stay awake. Dyed hair. Matches Mitchell’s testimony and Gunther’s book.

Dice. “I'm not with the Agency, Mr. Garrison, and I assume if you've come this far, what I have to say interests you. But I'm not going to name names, or tell you who or what I represent. Except to say--you're close, you're closer than you think..#

SeaTac,

Skychef probably catered all the airlines at one location or another.  Those Skychef match books were everywhere until the airlines stopped passing out small packets of four cigarettes with meals.

My train experience is extremely limited and all before the early 1960s.  But I have never seen anything catered on a passenger train.  Usually, the trains had their own dining cars (very expensive!) and porters sold sandwiches and coffee to the unwashed.

 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1861 on: May 16, 2018, 02:06:31 PM »

SeaTac,
I’m so glad to see someone mention Trains. To me you can join the Tina Bar NO pull group or you can take the other avenue that there exists a very real possibility that Cooper survived the jump and escaped ! I see no real proof one way or the other so I find it far more interesting to explore how Cooper might have escaped undetected.
It just seems to me that very few people seem to be all that interested in how easily he could have pulled this caper off. Im a local that has spent most of my life fishing, hunting and exploring many areas of Cooper country. I feel Trains could have been a huge part of Cooper’s escape plans. Train lines have been running through Cooper country for many many years. Meyer and I went over this a year ago and I’ve done a lot of exploring down this avenue recently. Your call name is SeaTac which begs my curiosity whether your from the area !
 

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« Reply #1862 on: May 16, 2018, 02:31:10 PM »
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SeaTac,
I’m so glad to see someone mention Trains. To me you can join the Tina Bar NO pull group or you can take the other avenue that there exists a very real possibility that Cooper survived the jump and escaped ! I see no real proof one way or the other so I find it far more interesting to explore how Cooper might have escaped undetected.
It just seems to me that very few people seem to be all that interested in how easily he could have pulled this caper off. Im a local that has spent most of my life fishing, hunting and exploring many areas of Cooper country. I feel Trains could have been a huge part of Cooper’s escape plans. Train lines have been running through Cooper country for many many years. Meyer and I went over this a year ago and I’ve done a lot of exploring down this avenue recently. Your call name is SeaTac which begs my curiosity whether your from the area !

Train lines (working and extinct) penetrated the whole Cooper DZ area with one line going straight south to Vancouver and then runs (west?) right behind Tina Bar (the Fazios property and River Road). Weve mentioned this option before ... 
 
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« Reply #1863 on: May 16, 2018, 02:32:27 PM »
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If you’re talking about Wilhelm Trucking , trust me ... it was Rudie Wilhemn trucking ! Rudie started the company back in the 1920’s and was huge for almost a 100 years in Portland, Milwaukee area. I pay little attention to all these wild claims of planes crashing or Men with flares falling out of the sky etc. etc. The FBI CHASED DOWN 1000’s of these preposterous stories.

The FBI CHASED DOWN 1000’s of these preposterous stories.

I want to hear about these stories! Why didnt anybody catalog them?
 

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« Reply #1864 on: May 16, 2018, 02:35:19 PM »
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Kermit. Did the authorities ever discuss the trains? Did Skychefs cater the railroads? Even with DNA or photos, this legend will always live on. It does not want to be solved. Any new suspect will just add to the legend. We will see a new suspect soon. Records will show a heavy, heavy smoker, on the railroad, who would have been very familiar with Benzadrine to stay awake. Dyed hair. Matches Mitchell’s testimony and Gunther’s book.

Dice. “I'm not with the Agency, Mr. Garrison, and I assume if you've come this far, what I have to say interests you. But I'm not going to name names, or tell you who or what I represent. Except to say--you're close, you're closer than you think..#

Hmmm. Are you bigger than a bread box and purple, gray, pink, black, yellow ...?  How many fingers have you got? Mammalian eyes? When did you arrive and how long have you been here doing what?  Do we have to go through the center of the Sun to get to Alpha Centauri? :-X
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1865 on: May 16, 2018, 03:09:00 PM »
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SeaTac,
I’m so glad to see someone mention Trains. To me you can join the Tina Bar NO pull groups p or you can take the other avenue that there exists a very real possibility that Cooper survived the jump and escaped ! I see no real proof one way or the other so I find it far more interesting to explore how Cooper might have escaped undetected.
It just seems to me that very few people seem to be all that interested in how easily he could have pulled this caper off. Im a local that has spent most of my life fishing, hunting and exploring many areas of Cooper country. I feel Trains could have been a huge part of Cooper’s escape plans. Train lines have been running through Cooper country for many many years. Meyer and I went over this a year ago and I’ve done a lot of exploring down this avenue recently. Your call name is SeaTac which begs my curiosity whether your from the area !

Train lines (working and extinct) penetrated the whole Cooper DZ area with one line going straight south to Vancouver and then runs (west?) right behind Tina Bar (the Fazios property and River Road). Weve mentioned this option before ...

Yes I know we have mentioned the line that runs right behind Tina Bar but I’ve never been able to ascertain it’s relevance to,Cooper’s escape plan ? I’m more interested in the Rail lines that run directly into Cooper country from Yacolt, right through Battleground and continuing Westerly hooking up with the main BNSF line that runs from Seattle to LA. I can hear clearly this main line from my home about 11/2 mile away. A train whistle in the quiet of night can easily be heard for many miles away ! That train line has between 59 to 82 trains a day depending on whose count you’re using.
 

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« Reply #1866 on: May 16, 2018, 03:30:27 PM »
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SeaTac,
I’m so glad to see someone mention Trains. To me you can join the Tina Bar NO pull groups p or you can take the other avenue that there exists a very real possibility that Cooper survived the jump and escaped ! I see no real proof one way or the other so I find it far more interesting to explore how Cooper might have escaped undetected.
It just seems to me that very few people seem to be all that interested in how easily he could have pulled this caper off. Im a local that has spent most of my life fishing, hunting and exploring many areas of Cooper country. I feel Trains could have been a huge part of Cooper’s escape plans. Train lines have been running through Cooper country for many many years. Meyer and I went over this a year ago and I’ve done a lot of exploring down this avenue recently. Your call name is SeaTac which begs my curiosity whether your from the area !

Train lines (working and extinct) penetrated the whole Cooper DZ area with one line going straight south to Vancouver and then runs (west?) right behind Tina Bar (the Fazios property and River Road). Weve mentioned this option before ...

Yes I know we have mentioned the line that runs right behind Tina Bar but I’ve never been able to ascertain it’s relevance to,Cooper’s escape plan ? I’m more interested in the Rail lines that run directly into Cooper country from Yacolt, right through Battleground and continuing Westerly hooking up with the main BNSF line that runs from Seattle to LA. I can hear clearly this main line from my home about 11/2 mile away. A train whistle in the quiet of night can easily be heard for many miles away ! That train line has between 59 to 82 trains a day depending on whose count you’re using.

Glad you pointed this out!  That's very interesting. I have yet to see any 302 which mentions investigation of rail lines or any interviews with people that were using the rail lines on the day ... ??

I asked a cousin of mine at Vancouver if they bothered to interview people in the hobo camps after the hijacking and he basically said 'no'. I asked several agents about this and they also said 'no'. That surprised me. Its a blank slate so far as I know . . . thanks again Kermit.   
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1867 on: May 16, 2018, 05:29:21 PM »
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If you’re talking about Wilhelm Trucking , trust me ... it was Rudie Wilhemn trucking ! Rudie started the company back in the 1920’s and was huge for almost a 100 years in Portland, Milwaukee area. I pay little attention to all these wild claims of planes crashing or Men with flares falling out of the sky etc. etc. The FBI CHASED DOWN 1000’s of these preposterous stories.

The FBI CHASED DOWN 1000’s of these preposterous stories.

I want to hear about these stories! Why didnt anybody catalog them?

Fazio cattle mutilations. Alien surgeons at work. T Bar was their operating room. Surely they know how the money got there.

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1868 on: May 16, 2018, 05:42:58 PM »
Regarding trains. Fragments and sparks from brake shoes and metal shavings from rails and wheels could very likely have resulted in the same analysis of the tie. Railroad workers of any capacity would have worn clip on ties for safety, when they wore ties. Heavy smoker. Heart disease. Clip on tie. Metal shavings. Did he wear any rings? A working man like that who was around machinery would not have worn a ring, even if married.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1869 on: May 19, 2018, 07:25:32 AM »
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Regarding trains. Fragments and sparks from brake shoes and metal shavings from rails and wheels could very likely have resulted in the same analysis of the tie. Railroad workers of any capacity would have worn clip on ties for safety, when they wore ties. Heavy smoker. Heart disease. Clip on tie. Metal shavings. Did he wear any rings? A working man like that who was around machinery would not have worn a ring, even if married.

can you provide the elements known to be from brake shoes that match the elements...most railroad workers wore jump suits, or overall's..the one's inside wore ties but were tucked inside a vest only showing the top portion of the tie..

a quick search: Railway Brake Blocks. Compo C/BB/K brake block is a rigid moulded friction material, grey-black in colour, having a random fiber asbestos base and containing metallic particles. It is manufactured only in the form of brake blocks, integrally moulded to a back plate.
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« Reply #1870 on: May 19, 2018, 10:48:18 AM »
I have been reading some You Tube comments...it's already gone haywire...the flight path is fake, the sketch is fake. nothing the FBI states is correct according most I've read..

"they finally found him"
"the pic of Cooper is a fake"
"I think you have fantastic evidence!! This is so great and well done!! You may have actually solved the case of D.B Cooper."
"Cant wait for the movie...starring Tom Cruise"


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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1871 on: May 19, 2018, 03:53:52 PM »
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I have been reading some You Tube comments...it's already gone haywire...the flight path is fake, the sketch is fake. nothing the FBI states is correct according most I've read..

"they finally found him"
"the pic of Cooper is a fake"
"I think you have fantastic evidence!! This is so great and well done!! You may have actually solved the case of D.B Cooper."
"Cant wait for the movie...starring Tom Cruise"
I haven't read any comments but have seen some of the videos. It seems that people that don't have much info about the Cooper case can be very gullible. Most of the Cooper suspects have at least some of what has been reported as facts of the case, this latest guy has almost nothing. If this guy's DNA were a match with Cooper their story would carry more weight but it was tested in 2009 and was negative.
 

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« Reply #1872 on: May 19, 2018, 04:32:06 PM »
It's amazing how little they know and quickly come to conclusions. it doesn't take much to convince the general public..that's why the political field is the way it is..they can easily sway a view of someone with one false accusation.
 

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« Reply #1873 on: May 21, 2018, 12:42:25 PM »
If Reca were going to come up with a credible Cooper story why on Earth did he pick such an unlikely landing area? I'm sure another "Cowboy" with foggy memories of a lost stranger could be found at some diner closer to the flight path.

Skydivers did want to be Cooper suspects. It was a badge of honor to have been interviewed by the FBI, and many were after the FBI pulled all the USPA membership data from their office, then located in Monterey CA. IMO, lots of skydivers lied about being interviewed. I was disappointed to have been passed over.

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« Reply #1874 on: May 21, 2018, 02:06:37 PM »
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If Reca were going to come up with a credible Cooper story why on Earth did he pick such an unlikely landing area? I'm sure another "Cowboy" with foggy memories of a lost stranger could be found at some diner closer to the flight path.

Skydivers did want to be Cooper suspects. It was a badge of honor to have been interviewed by the FBI, and many were after the FBI pulled all the USPA membership data from their office, then located in Monterey CA. IMO, lots of skydivers lied about being interviewed. I was disappointed to have been passed over.

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No link btwn skydivers and Cooper has ever been established; in fact skydivers say his dress was not what a skydiver would chose.