That's a Lockheed L 1011 illustration.

377

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That's a Lockheed L 1011 illustration.

377

oops, wrong pic...

Shutter got it right.  That is a 727 illustration.  Note the rear right engine mounted on the fuselage.  The Lockheed 1011 had an engine mounted on each wing and then the rear fuselage mounted engine.  Also, I don't remember a rear stairs on the 1011 and one is clearly shown in Shutter's illustration.

Also, I am not sure that I understand Shutter's explanation about where the center engine is mounted, but it is at the rear end of the S air intake duct and its exhaust hardware is the rearmost part of the fuselage proper.

I screwed the whole post up...I was on the phone typing and didn't even notice I posted the drawing of an L-1011...

The engine would be in the back (looking out the stairs) in front and above the stairs...the intake is on the top with a S-duct system leading to the engine...

correct?

Shutter you didn't screw anything up.  Read my earlier post above.  Also, your illustration clearly shows a T-tail aircraft.  The Lockheed 1011 did NOT have a T-tail.

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I screwed the whole post up...I was on the phone typing and didn't even notice I posted the drawing of an L-1011...

The engine would be in the back (looking out the stairs) in front and above the stairs...the intake is on the top with a S-duct system leading to the engine...

correct?

Shutter you didn't screw anything up.  Read my earlier post above.  Also, your illustration clearly shows a T-tail aircraft.  The Lockheed 1011 did NOT have a T-tail.

Yes, but before you were here I had posted the engine on top and the intake in the back..then I posted a pic thinking I had the 727 and didn't pay attention to what I did until 377 pointed it out..I just kept rambling along on the phone...

Okay, so to make a long story short, you modified your initial illustration.  After checking the times, your modification is in fact after 377's post.

My thinking was that perhaps the woosh sound in the 727 jump posted by 377 was the jumpers stepping on the modified deck/ramp... because the tail cavity behind the bulkhead is shared with the engine the sound from it could be impacted.

video 727 airstair cavity with the panels removed.

Maple syrup on the keyboard? SHUTTER!

Yes, the other morning I had the plate in front of me between the plate and me was the keyboard...one drip did it..I thought I got it all, but once it dried I realized it was still there    it's getting worse, it just posted this comment while I was typing...

switching keyboards.....red alert 

Anybody ever look into "Frederick W. Hahneman".. 1972 hijacking of 727 to Honduras

""TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras, June 3 (Reuters)—The man suspected of bailing out of a hijacked United States jet with $303,000 ransom over the jungles of Honduras a month ago surrendered to the United States Embassy here last night, Frederick W. Hahneman, 49 years old of Easton, Pa., told Ambassador Hewson A. Ryan that he was afraid and wanted to return to the United States. He Was flown to handcuffed and under guard today. An arrest warrant issued in Alexandria, Va., on Thursdny named Mr. Hahneman as the hijacker of an Eastern Airlines 727 that was seized after it left Allentown, Pa., On May 5 en route to Miami.

After stops in Washington, where 41 passengers were released, and New Orleans, where the aircraft was replaCed, the hijacker ordered the plane to fly south and left, it over Honduras.

Ambassador Ryan said that Mr Hahneman, who was born in Honduras, appeared to be afraid of something and had sought the embassy's protection. None of the ransom money had been recovered,. he said.

Mr. Hahneman walked into the embassy at 6 P.M. yesterday and said that he wanted to ‘return home. He apparently made no admission of guilt.

Mr. Hahneman told the Ambassador that he had fought in three wars — World War II, Korea and Vietnam. Federal authorities in Washington said that Ile had been an Air Force radar technician.

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Anybody ever look into "Frederick W. Hahneman".. 1972 hijacking of 727 to Honduras

""TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras, June 3 (Reuters)—The man suspected of bailing out of a hijacked United States jet with $303,000 ransom over the jungles of Honduras a month ago surrendered to the United States Embassy here last night, Frederick W. Hahneman, 49 years old of Easton, Pa., told Ambassador Hewson A. Ryan that he was afraid and wanted to return to the United States. He Was flown to handcuffed and under guard today. An arrest warrant issued in Alexandria, Va., on Thursdny named Mr. Hahneman as the hijacker of an Eastern Airlines 727 that was seized after it left Allentown, Pa., On May 5 en route to Miami.

After stops in Washington, where 41 passengers were released, and New Orleans, where the aircraft was replaCed, the hijacker ordered the plane to fly south and left, it over Honduras.

Ambassador Ryan said that Mr Hahneman, who was born in Honduras, appeared to be afraid of something and had sought the embassy's protection. None of the ransom money had been recovered,. he said.

Mr. Hahneman walked into the embassy at 6 P.M. yesterday and said that he wanted to ‘return home. He apparently made no admission of guilt.

Mr. Hahneman told the Ambassador that he had fought in three wars — World War II, Korea and Vietnam. Federal authorities in Washington said that Ile had been an Air Force radar technician.

He wasn't Cooper.  After his landing location and amount of money he had with him was publicized, the local natives had a competition to see who could find him first.  And Hahneman fear was that the natives would find him and kill him for the loot.  So he hid the loot somewhere, all of it was later recovered, and turned himself in to the Ambassador for protection.

How was he eliminated?

The circumstances around the later money recovery are secret...

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