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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1320 on: November 26, 2017, 05:21:25 PM »
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... and you have access to all of the data bases you would need worldwide even if you had the prints?  ;)

What I have access to is not your concern, . Conducting yourself as an adult should instead be your concern. That includes not passive-aggressively masking an attack on my intelligence with a winky sign.

Remove my name from your post or Shutter will ... or I will!

What gives here? 

The question was straightforward and mundane. You seem to have an agenda? Are you trying to teach me some kind of lesson about your intelligence ?  Or my use of a winky sign? :nono:  Why!?

You have a database to run someone's prints? You have Cooper's prints? You are speaking riddles. Tell us what you can do and have to do it with! You're the one making assertions about running prints from the plane. My question is simple! HOW! WITH WHAT!? AMERICAN WANTS TO KNOW! Sheesh.

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1321 on: November 26, 2017, 05:48:35 PM »
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... and you have access to all of the data bases you would need worldwide even if you had the prints?  ;)

What I have access to is not your concern, . Conducting yourself as an adult should instead be your concern. That includes not passive-aggressively masking an attack on my intelligence with a winky sign.

Unsurelock,

Let me assure you that Georger has not made an attack on your intelligence.

You seem to be overly and unnecessarily sensitive about something.  Just rest assured that everyone on Shutter's site is very polite, or else you will be hearing from Shutter himself.

If you really want to see how a bunch of hard nosed s.o.b.'s operate, just take a look at the Cooper sites (now locked) on DropZone.

So lighten up a bit please.

Here we go again!

I sense we have a trouble maker here.

Why? I have no idea.

He seems to have targeted me and this forum for his special treatment?

This is all we need!

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1322 on: November 26, 2017, 07:17:51 PM »
Ok people...I would hate to have to lock another thread up...can we please learn to discuss DB Cooper, and a lot less about the person discussing DB Cooper?

Lets focus on the case..I know people get under each others skin, but lets get through the problem before it gets any further.

The two members involved, would you please contact me through a PM to help sort the issue out. I've heard from one side at this point, and will wait till the other side contacts me. lets try to resolve the problem as gentleman, sound good?

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1323 on: November 26, 2017, 08:34:47 PM »
Bruce Smith said:
So, who is the Intermediary? He deals with Bruce Smith on a regular basis, you say? Hmmm. Tell me more, as I am unaware of this whole episode that you are describing and I am Bruce Smith!


Hey Smith, if you can't figure out who the Intermediary is, then you are out there...somewhere.  Even I can figure out who he was....put on your thinking cap Smith.. grab a clue, big guy.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1324 on: November 26, 2017, 11:52:31 PM »
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Ok people...I would hate to have to lock another thread up...can we please learn to discuss DB Cooper, and a lot less about the person discussing DB Cooper?

Lets focus on the case..I know people get under each others skin, but lets get through the problem before it gets any further.

The two members involved, would you please contact me through a PM to help sort the issue out. I've heard from one side at this point, and will wait till the other side contacts me. lets try to resolve the problem as gentleman, sound good?

Shutter

Look. This is crazy. I really dont enjoy this at all. I guess I will not use icons of any kind from ere on out on the chance they might offend somebody. This is the end of Thanksgiving. I have a very heavy schedule this week and need to start prep for that tonight - so I dont have time for this bullshit!

I am going to take a vacation, Good luck to your forum!  :) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ::) :-[ :-X :-\ :-* >:D O0 :)) C:-) :offtopicman: :chr2: :nono: :conspiracy:

This is all I can say. This is all this matter is worth! I really was blindsided by this today - last thing I expected. Congrats to the attacker. He wins!
 
 
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1325 on: November 27, 2017, 01:22:45 AM »
Of course it's crazy. it also ties up the forum that I have to deal with...nobody has taken any sides, and nobody needs to stop using "smileys"

when I get a complaint, I have to follow up on it. especially when it comes from one of the two members with this issue. I can't tap out and forget about it...
 
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1326 on: November 27, 2017, 03:46:39 PM »
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Of course it's crazy. it also ties up the forum that I have to deal with...nobody has taken any sides, and nobody needs to stop using "smileys"

when I get a complaint, I have to follow up on it. especially when it comes from one of the two members with this issue. I can't tap out and forget about it...
One of the greatest person I have ever had the privilege of calling my friend said to me something I will never forget. It was on a fishing trip and he was giving me a bad time. I had only met him a day earlier so I said to him “ it sure didn’t take you long to start ribbing me and giving me a bad time”. He said to me “ if you don’t feel comfortable giving your buddy a bad time ...... then you haven’t become good friends yet “. Humor is part of what makes life fun ! I try to never miss an opportunity to give my friends static should they make a foolish move ! It’s all in good fun and I expect the same in return. Lighten up and keep the silly smileys coming. JMHO
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1327 on: November 27, 2017, 04:34:47 PM »
In the future everyone needs to address a poster by there username. some people don't like to use there real names. it doesn't matter if it was mentioned elsewhere. this isn't a court of law where names are required.

I consider everyone on this forum an asset to the community. personalities will clash, always have and always will. If I was to look at this from it's totality point, the use of someone's name far over rules the use of a smiley.

unsurelock, I don't have any issues with you what so ever. I hope you will continue to contribute to this forum. we are all here looking for answers. hopefully, we can set this aside and take up where we left off.

remember, I can be reached on this forum through the PM system, or through email if you have anything you feel like discussing with me. my door is open to everyone....

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1328 on: November 27, 2017, 07:17:27 PM »
Things that interested me in the files were two people came to almost the same conclusions of the jump point. these were independent of each other...then the issue of not being able to search some area's properly due to heavy brush "thickets" holding them back. then the amount of people surrounding the plotting of the path.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1329 on: November 28, 2017, 01:18:42 PM »
One entry in the documents have me puzzled....if the Flight data recorder would be able to tell the difference between the oscillation, and the pressure bump, why did they state the entire route had to be searched? they believe he might of been on the stairs for some time prior to jumping....

now that I think about it. the information wasn't on the FDR, correct?
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1330 on: November 28, 2017, 01:28:19 PM »
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One entry in the documents have me puzzled....if the Flight data recorder would be able to tell the difference between the oscillation, and the pressure bump, why did they state the entire route had to be searched? they believe he might of been on the stairs for some time prior to jumping....

now that I think about it. the information wasn't on the FDR, correct?

The wind chill factor at the end of those stairs would be about 35 degrees below zero.  Cooper was lightly dressed and would have been freezing his butt off after about the first minute.
 
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1331 on: November 28, 2017, 01:43:13 PM »
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One entry in the documents have me puzzled....if the Flight data recorder would be able to tell the difference between the oscillation, and the pressure bump, why did they state the entire route had to be searched? they believe he might of been on the stairs for some time prior to jumping....

now that I think about it. the information wasn't on the FDR, correct?

I think that snippet was from one of the test pilots they talked to, who probably was just giving a wild conjecture.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1332 on: November 28, 2017, 01:48:33 PM »
Temps for December 6, 1971  Actual:43° | 32° which are pretty close to Turkey day...nothing about what it was like on the stairs (temp wise)..they would of blocked most of the wind, but how cold would it really be on the stairs..
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1333 on: November 28, 2017, 01:54:43 PM »
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One entry in the documents have me puzzled....if the Flight data recorder would be able to tell the difference between the oscillation, and the pressure bump, why did they state the entire route had to be searched? they believe he might of been on the stairs for some time prior to jumping....

now that I think about it. the information wasn't on the FDR, correct?

I think that snippet was from one of the test pilots they talked to, who probably was just giving a wild conjecture.

the snippet was taken from a page dated 11/24 11/25 analysis of the flight path...this is prior to the testing...
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1334 on: November 28, 2017, 02:43:44 PM »
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Temps for December 6, 1971  Actual:43° | 32° which are pretty close to Turkey day...nothing about what it was like on the stairs (temp wise)..they would of blocked most of the wind, but how cold would it really be on the stairs..

I have put those calculations for the actual hijacking online here several times.

But just going from memory, the flight crew reported the ambient temperature at 10,000 feet ASL at -7 degrees C.  That is +20 degrees F and does not include the wind factor.  The end of the stairs is not going to block all of that 225 MPH wind by any means.

The cold is going to be a major factor for Cooper regardless of how you look at.