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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4050 on: March 05, 2021, 12:37:25 PM »
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It's a placard directing you to look on the other side of the aircraft for the exterior controls...

So it references the regular exterior airstairs release? It does not refer to the "break wire" release?

Actually, nothing except the placard states that. not even the safety cards speak of any wire break.
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4051 on: March 05, 2021, 12:37:34 PM »
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It's possible. the exterior controls are near the rear door as well...

Remember, the placard seller verified that the placard was affixed inside the jet near the bulkhead door. Also, the Hicks' placard is not scored as is done with exterior placards. Moreover, the Hicks' placard is in good shape--not scratched up like other exterior placards.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4052 on: March 05, 2021, 12:38:23 PM »
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This placard can be seen on 305..

What pic or footage?
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4053 on: March 05, 2021, 12:39:42 PM »
The document that shows all the functions describes the exterior and interior having the same emergency function when the option is installed. that would lead one to believe two of the same placards would be used?
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4054 on: March 05, 2021, 12:40:18 PM »
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It's a placard directing you to look on the other side of the aircraft for the exterior controls...

So it references the regular exterior airstairs release? It does not refer to the "break wire" release?

Actually, nothing except the placard states that. not even the safety cards speak of any wire break.

That's what I've said...the Hicks' placard is unique. It appears to reference a particular version of this emergency airstair release.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4055 on: March 05, 2021, 12:40:32 PM »
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This placard can be seen on 305..

What pic or footage?

The one after the testing..
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4056 on: March 05, 2021, 12:42:16 PM »
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The document that shows all the functions describes the exterior and interior having the same emergency function when the option is installed. that would lead one to believe two of the same placards would be used?

Remember, the ASA info card states that the exterior emergency release pull handle is located on the port side of their 727s.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4057 on: March 05, 2021, 12:43:11 PM »
Point being, there appear to be a few installment options and locations for the various T handles.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4058 on: March 05, 2021, 12:43:19 PM »
The reality is, the placard doesn't match anything. if the system was not next to the main control and the placard was on the door. none of the placards would of been on the exterior of the door. even in the poor quality pic you can see a placard on the door?
 

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« Reply #4059 on: March 05, 2021, 12:45:08 PM »
The much bigger problem for me is that the FBI stated it came from 305. Therefore, it is reasonable to deduce that 305 had that option on the jet.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4060 on: March 05, 2021, 12:45:22 PM »
Read my original post...I believe you may be correct that the exterior controls might of been on the earlier models. why would they need to tell you to look on the other side?
 

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« Reply #4061 on: March 05, 2021, 12:46:41 PM »
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The much bigger problem for me is that the FBI stated it came from 305. Therefore, it is reasonable to deduce that 305 had that option on the jet.

I don't see it on 305. the FBI doesn't know unless told. they did flip flop saying it could of been from any 727
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4062 on: March 05, 2021, 12:47:20 PM »
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Read my original post...I believe you may be correct that the exterior controls might of been on the earlier models. why would they need to tell you to look on the other side?

It appears to me that the main exterior release system (also called an emergency release for some reason) is on the starboard side. And, the other break wire release system may be on the port side of the jet, as with ASA.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4063 on: March 05, 2021, 12:48:48 PM »
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The much bigger problem for me is that the FBI stated it came from 305. Therefore, it is reasonable to deduce that 305 had that option on the jet.

I don't see it on 305. the FBI doesn't know unless told. they did flip flop saying it could of been from any 727

Where does it say that? There is the media report where they say it's a million to one that it didn't come from 305.

The second placard from Skamania County is completely different.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #4064 on: March 05, 2021, 12:51:21 PM »
I just posted a pic with the placard directing you to the starboard side. the early models might of been on the port side. the ground crew might look and see nothing and be confused until they read the placard directing them to the other side. constant changes and bugs were worked during the first couple years. they don't have placards telling the ground crew the cargo door is on the other side?