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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #2085 on: May 01, 2019, 11:35:28 PM »
Some of my pics are on my bad computer..is any of the photo's from the testing of the stairs show the left side of the stairs? it's almost like someone told every photographer to stay away from that area..very hard pics to find..
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #2086 on: May 01, 2019, 11:39:22 PM »
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Anyone with a brain knows where this is going. Nowhere. And if the placard did not even come off during the hijacking flight ... then you have one more problem.

As for searches, do them yourself if you feel you have something to prove. :rofl:

I do not understand the need for you to constantly be snarky. I have never understood why anyone feels the need to be snarky here. Why attack on a personal level?

All R99 and I have done is put forward a theory. Additionally, we've backed it up. Deal with it.

As to your snarky comment: "And if the placard did not even come off during the hijacking flight ... then you have one more problem."

Why would I, or we, have a problem? Isn't this like saying, "If you don't have evidence, you don't have evidence"...? Put another way, if by some miracle the placard happened to come from some other 727 and not N467US, then yes that would no longer be considered evidence pointing to a western path. That would obviously change some things. That said, it still wouldn't explain the money find or the lack of anything found in the FBI search area or along the FBI Flight Path.

You act is if we're afraid of evidence.

Unfortunately for you, someone who apparently cannot accept that something doesn't add up regarding the FBI Flight Path, the placard is a compelling piece of evidence.

Why are you afraid of evidence?

what EVIDENCE ?

Let me ask you the same thing a poster over at DZ is asking you today!  Are you going to be posting daily videos to the world about your views in the Cooper case ... for the next 52 weeks daily, in addition to all of your other posts!?  I think the poster is saying its getting tiresome! It's a little overbearing dont you think?

What do you hope to prove by this massive TAKEOVER OF NORJAK? What are your goals in this FLOOD? 

re- Dropzone:  JJG78 says:   "Why are you posting this every day?  Will there be 52 weeks of these posts every weekday? "

PS: And I am reminded people have expressed the same dislike over at The Mountain News ?   
   
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #2087 on: May 02, 2019, 12:09:27 AM »
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Let me ask you the same thing a poster over at DZ is asking you today!  Are you going to be posting daily videos to the world about your views in the Cooper case ... for the next 52 weeks daily, in addition to all of your other posts!?  I think the poster is saying its getting tiresome! It's a little overbearing dont you think?

What do you hope to prove by this massive TAKEOVER OF NORJAK? What are your goals in this FLOOD? 

re- Dropzone:  JJG78 says:   "Why are you posting this every day?  Will there be 52 weeks of these posts every weekday? "

PS: And I am reminded people have expressed the same dislike over at The Mountain News ?   
 

How unbelievably petty. Especially if JJG78 is you.

Let me provide a road map for the person who dislikes the Daily DB Cooper Bite:

1) Avoid the Eric Ulis thread on the Forum.

2) That ought to pretty much take care of it.

Cheers!
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #2088 on: May 02, 2019, 12:16:42 AM »
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Let me ask you the same thing a poster over at DZ is asking you today!  Are you going to be posting daily videos to the world about your views in the Cooper case ... for the next 52 weeks daily, in addition to all of your other posts!?  I think the poster is saying its getting tiresome! It's a little overbearing dont you think?

What do you hope to prove by this massive TAKEOVER OF NORJAK? What are your goals in this FLOOD? 

re- Dropzone:  JJG78 says:   "Why are you posting this every day?  Will there be 52 weeks of these posts every weekday? "

PS: And I am reminded people have expressed the same dislike over at The Mountain News ?   
 

How unbelievably petty. Especially if JJG78 is you.

Let me provide a road map for the person who dislikes the Daily DB Cooper Bite:

1) Avoid the Eric Ulis thread on the Forum.

2) That ought to pretty much take care of it.

Cheers!

How petty indeed!

JJG78 is not me. JJG78 is a poster at Dropzone - go check it out! Probably a skydiver. Duhhhhhhh. I am not registered at DZ. Ask the mods at DZ who JJG78 is and they may tell you!  But my impression is this is only the beginning of complaints about your Cooper jihad. At least Colbert had a committee and substantive programs when he launched his massive program. He brought tangible resources and results, eg. the Cooper FOIA files which continue to this day.     

But others are complaining too.

I dont know what to tell you Elvis. Maybe they just dont like your impersonations? 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #2089 on: May 02, 2019, 12:19:27 AM »
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Let me ask you the same thing a poster over at DZ is asking you today!  Are you going to be posting daily videos to the world about your views in the Cooper case ... for the next 52 weeks daily, in addition to all of your other posts!?  I think the poster is saying its getting tiresome! It's a little overbearing dont you think?

What do you hope to prove by this massive TAKEOVER OF NORJAK? What are your goals in this FLOOD? 

re- Dropzone:  JJG78 says:   "Why are you posting this every day?  Will there be 52 weeks of these posts every weekday? "

PS: And I am reminded people have expressed the same dislike over at The Mountain News ?   
 

How unbelievably petty. Especially if JJG78 is you.

Let me provide a road map for the person who dislikes the Daily DB Cooper Bite:

1) Avoid the Eric Ulis thread on the Forum.

2) That ought to pretty much take care of it.

Cheers!

How petty indeed!

JJG78 is not me. JJG78 is a poster at Dropzone - go check it out! Probably a skydiver. Duhhhhhhh. I am not registered at DZ. Ask the mods at DZ who JJG78 is and they may tell you!  But my impression is this is only the beginning of complaints about your Cooper jihad. At least Colbert had a committee and substantive programs.   

But others are complaining too.

I dont know what to tell you Elvis. Maybe they just dont like your impersonations?

If you don't like the impersonation...don't go to the show!

Cheers!
Some men see things as they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #2090 on: May 02, 2019, 12:23:32 AM »
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Let me ask you the same thing a poster over at DZ is asking you today!  Are you going to be posting daily videos to the world about your views in the Cooper case ... for the next 52 weeks daily, in addition to all of your other posts!?  I think the poster is saying its getting tiresome! It's a little overbearing dont you think?

What do you hope to prove by this massive TAKEOVER OF NORJAK? What are your goals in this FLOOD? 

re- Dropzone:  JJG78 says:   "Why are you posting this every day?  Will there be 52 weeks of these posts every weekday? "

PS: And I am reminded people have expressed the same dislike over at The Mountain News ?   
 

How unbelievably petty. Especially if JJG78 is you.

Let me provide a road map for the person who dislikes the Daily DB Cooper Bite:

1) Avoid the Eric Ulis thread on the Forum.

2) That ought to pretty much take care of it.

Cheers!

How petty indeed!

JJG78 is not me. JJG78 is a poster at Dropzone - go check it out! Probably a skydiver. Duhhhhhhh. I am not registered at DZ. Ask the mods at DZ who JJG78 is and they may tell you!  But my impression is this is only the beginning of complaints about your Cooper jihad. At least Colbert had a committee and substantive programs.   

But others are complaining too.

I dont know what to tell you Elvis. Maybe they just dont like your impersonations?

If you don't like the impersonation...don't go to the show!

Cheers!

I dont and I wont. I knew people who knew the real Elvis.
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #2091 on: May 02, 2019, 07:07:35 AM »
G wrote: “I knew people who knew the real Elvis.â€
Knew? Don’t they know he’s still alive? 😉

I like EU’s daily show. All Cooper all the time.
I like Mountain News too.
I even like reading about Blevins Cooper campout plans.

I don’t gripe about things I can easily ignore. I’m incredibly easy to please.

377




 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #2092 on: May 02, 2019, 07:14:42 AM »
It appears the placard was more like a decal. the photo shows a placard very similar to the one on 305..
 

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« Reply #2093 on: May 02, 2019, 03:49:43 PM »
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It appears the placard was more like a decal. the photo shows a placard very similar to the one on 305..

You mean like model airplane decals? Dissolved in water and applied to some surface? Those photos dont look like any decal - they look like a plastic sheet, something you would screw on or rivet on to a hard cover plate ?

If this is a decal then what is the broken thicker surface it's on? Metal, plastic ... paper ??

Send a piece to Tom and let him look at it under the SEM. Edgewise!

Did you ever get any info from the Cowlitz county office?
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« Reply #2094 on: May 02, 2019, 04:14:23 PM »
Plastic with adhesive backing...
 

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« Reply #2095 on: May 02, 2019, 04:21:42 PM »
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Plastic with adhesive backing...

That is correct. I just talked to an Agent who has held it in his hands. He says it is plastic - torn plastic. Flexible. As to decal he laughed and said "hell I dont know!"  :rofl: "But the thing is plastic!   CASE SOLVED.  8)

Took me longer to make the call than to get his answer. Funny.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #2096 on: May 02, 2019, 04:39:01 PM »
thin, like a decal. the picture I posted looks to be about the same size. I guess I should say similar to a decal but more stable since it's plastic.

Hominid, email sent to me in 2014...

The placard was on the outside of a panel door that was adjacent to the normal airstair
control handle.  It was "stuck" there with adhesive.  It was probably made of metal foil,
but might have been plastic.  Inside that door was the control that the placard related
to, the control for the "emergency" (pneumatic) airstair extension system.  The control
was a red handle that had to be pulled hard in order to break a lockwire.  NWA did not
want people pulling the handle by mistake thinking it to be the normal way of dropping the
stair.  This is why it was inside a "cabinet" and had the lockwire.  They didn't want it
to be used for a routine dropping of the airstair because using this system would damage
the stair such that it would have to be repaired before it could be closed and locked for
flight.
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« Reply #2097 on: May 02, 2019, 06:24:17 PM »
here is a couple photo's I don't think have been seen much, if any. one is the rear stairs during the test but a pic I haven't seen. the second link is the cockpit crew during the testing..and eattle January 6, 1972...too big to post.

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« Reply #2098 on: May 02, 2019, 11:20:39 PM »
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Plastic with adhesive backing...

That is correct. I just talked to an Agent who has held it in his hands. He says it is plastic - torn plastic. Flexible. As to decal he laughed and said "hell I dont know!"  :rofl: "But the thing is plastic!   CASE SOLVED.  8)

Took me longer to make the call than to get his answer. Funny.

Georger,

What did the agent who has held the placard in his hands say when you asked him how it managed to get upwind of the FBI flight path?
 

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« Reply #2099 on: May 02, 2019, 11:47:59 PM »
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Plastic with adhesive backing...

That is correct. I just talked to an Agent who has held it in his hands. He says it is plastic - torn plastic. Flexible. As to decal he laughed and said "hell I dont know!"  :rofl: "But the thing is plastic!   CASE SOLVED.  8)

Took me longer to make the call than to get his answer. Funny.

Georger,

What did the agent who has held the placard in his hands say when you asked him how it managed to get upwind of the FBI flight path?

He said, "how ya doin .................. tell XYZ to give me a call, what do ya need ............. "  The call didnt last long.


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