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50% Cooper lived
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4050 on: November 16, 2018, 04:02:14 PM »
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Georger: the whole multi-page FBI memo on that interview is available. It was done in PA if I remember correctly (I posted before on this)
It has enough info to deduce who they are talking to. The redaction doesn't matter.

But your comments are a waste...I'm not going to bother and check to prove who they were talking to.

I guess we'll never know! It's a mystery! Unsolvable mystery who they interviewed!

OK thanks and good FLYJACKING!
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4051 on: November 16, 2018, 11:20:44 PM »
A fan writes: "Georger, I am sure Davy Crockett and George Washington both used the phrase "United States American currency". Does that mean George Washington and Davy Crockett were foreigners?

 
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4052 on: November 16, 2018, 11:31:10 PM »

I think you need to use an example closer to 1971
why does it matter what someone from the 1700's and early 1800's said?

I suppose if you found Richard Nixon saying it, that would be interesting?

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A fan writes: "Georger, I am sure Davy Crockett and George Washington both used the phrase "United States American currency". Does that mean George Washington and Davy Crockett were foreigners?
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4053 on: November 16, 2018, 11:34:27 PM »
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I think you need to use an example closer to 1971
why does it matter what someone from the 1700's and early 1800's said?

I suppose if you found Richard Nixon saying it, that would be interesting?

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A fan writes: "Georger, I am sure Davy Crockett and George Washington both used the phrase "United States American currency". Does that mean George Washington and Davy Crockett were foreigners?

Lets look for that! But a rule does suggest itself. R1: spoken language must be removed from all context in order to judge the speaker's national origin. R2: the rule is valid only for language speakers on 11-24-1971. The rule collapses everywhere else.

   
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4054 on: November 16, 2018, 11:40:03 PM »
Have you ever asked for, or been asked for, US or American currency, georger?
If so what was the situation?
You make it sound like you hear that all the time.
In my narrow existence, I don't.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4055 on: November 17, 2018, 12:16:26 AM »
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Have you ever asked for, or been asked for, US or American currency, georger?
If so what was the situation?
You make it sound like you hear that all the time.
In my narrow existence, I don't.

A friend's father spelled out his Street on the phone once when we were younger. "Delta, Unicorn, November, Bravo, Alpha, Romeo." He was just ordering a pizza, by the way. We pissed ourselves laughing, but military people make sure their communication is clear. I see nothing out of the ordinary about the Currency statement. Maybe he was former military. Shrug.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4056 on: November 17, 2018, 01:13:47 AM »
Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot. Just sayin'...
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4057 on: November 17, 2018, 10:30:23 AM »
It isn't normal for an American who has never been outside the US to use US/American currency. It implies a recent and significant foreign influence/experience and it could be military, doesn't have to be a foreign citizen. Cooper experienced foreign currency..
 

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« Reply #4058 on: November 17, 2018, 10:57:27 AM »
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It isn't normal for an American who has never been outside the US to use US/American currency. It implies a recent and significant foreign influence/experience and it could be military, doesn't have to be a foreign citizen. Cooper experienced foreign currency..

This is pure speculation. The bottom line is that it is an unusual request regardless of who you are or where you're from. To draw any conclusions is a stretch.

What we do know is that DBC had no discernible accent. That's it.

If I had to guess, I would say it's simply a phrase--if accurate--that is simply an attempt to be specific with respect to his demands. Furthermore, as those of us who are familiar with the Seattle and Vancouver, BC area in the 70s and 80s can attest, it was common for businesses in and around the area to accept currency from the other country at the current exchange rate. This was more common in Canada, but it happened in the US too.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4059 on: November 17, 2018, 11:43:44 AM »
well, foreign currency isn't the only thing that could have been rattling around in Cooper's brain.
Attached $20 MPC from the vietnam era. Weird they had an American Indian on this series? (there were a variety of "series" used)

Funny, these got for $80 or more  nowadays to collectors.

I notice on some of the ones for sale they have pinholes. There's some on the left side of this one. Interesting that paper bills develop pinholes (thinking of the found cooper money)
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4060 on: November 17, 2018, 11:56:16 AM »
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It isn't normal for an American who has never been outside the US to use US/American currency. It implies a recent and significant foreign influence/experience and it could be military, doesn't have to be a foreign citizen. Cooper experienced foreign currency..

This is pure speculation. The bottom line is that it is an unusual request regardless of who you are or where you're from. To draw any conclusions is a stretch.

What we do know is that DBC had no discernible accent. That's it.

If I had to guess, I would say it's simply a phrase--if accurate--that is simply an attempt to be specific with respect to his demands. Furthermore, as those of us who are familiar with the Seattle and Vancouver, BC area in the 70s and 80s can attest, it was common for businesses in and around the area to accept currency from the other country at the current exchange rate. This was more common in Canada, but it happened in the US too.

"No discernible accent" to a college-aged girl from Pennsylvania. Nobody spent enough time with him to listen for a "y'all" or "aboot" or "you's" except Mucklow. I haven't read anything so far that tells me she could discern the accent of a West-Coast native (where merry, Mary and marry all rhyme) from that of a Chicagoan or New Englander.

I tend to believe the reports that he didn't have a twang in his talk, but I also don't think anyone should be eliminated unless they're from Scotland, Brooklyn or the bayou.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4061 on: November 17, 2018, 12:53:20 PM »
A very complete accounting of how the US dropped counterfeit money over North Vietnam, including propaganda leaflets during the Vietnam War.
The apparently printed in Okinawa (pictures at the site).
Drops were made over North Vietnam from 20,000 feet

A lot of description and nice pics of the leaflets/money
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4062 on: November 17, 2018, 01:33:12 PM »
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It isn't normal for an American who has never been outside the US to use US/American currency. It implies a recent and significant foreign influence/experience and it could be military, doesn't have to be a foreign citizen. Cooper experienced foreign currency..

This is pure speculation. The bottom line is that it is an unusual request regardless of who you are or where you're from. To draw any conclusions is a stretch.

What we do know is that DBC had no discernible accent. That's it.

If I had to guess, I would say it's simply a phrase--if accurate--that is simply an attempt to be specific with respect to his demands. Furthermore, as those of us who are familiar with the Seattle and Vancouver, BC area in the 70s and 80s can attest, it was common for businesses in and around the area to accept currency from the other country at the current exchange rate. This was more common in Canada, but it happened in the US too.

Ridiculous. You call it speculation then proceed to speculate..

This is where this forum gets nauseating. Lack of critical thinking.

You argued for conjecture. Now reject it. Double standard or personal bias?

It would be extremely rare for an American without foreign influence/exposure to use the term US/American currency, that is very significant and denying it is denying experience, reason and logic.

95% of this case has speculation and conjecture... you can reject virtually everything if you want to apply a strict proven fact only standard. The very nature of the unsolved requires speculation and conjecture to advance it.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4063 on: November 17, 2018, 01:40:54 PM »
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A very complete accounting of how the US dropped counterfeit money over North Vietnam, including propaganda leaflets during the Vietnam War.
The apparently printed in Okinawa (pictures at the site).
Drops were made over North Vietnam from 20,000 feet

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Shocking. Blatant copyright infringement.

If Snow wants to drop some books from 14,500 ft I may be able to help.  ;)

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4064 on: November 17, 2018, 01:44:36 PM »
Sheridan is hardly accent free. Listen to his HC interview. EU has identified it as a MidWest accent. I do not know what it is but it is very noticeable. He does not sound like a native Californian even though he is.

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