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Offline DBfan57

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6120 on: February 25, 2021, 01:33:16 PM »
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Gossett is reported to have been fluent in French. That's all I know.

Dont you  think it needs more research?  And I am just wondering, every show I watch has our old boy in seat 18C.  Why is that disputed?  Not that it makes any difference. And I must agree, who drinks a bourbon and soda?  At least before this case?
 

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« Reply #6121 on: February 25, 2021, 02:43:08 PM »
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Gossett is reported to have been fluent in French. That's all I know.

Dont you  think it needs more research?  And I am just wondering, every show I watch has our old boy in seat 18C.  Why is that disputed?  Not that it makes any difference. And I must agree, who drinks a bourbon and soda?  At least before this case?


Le "Old Boy" :::::::::::::

Actual Old Boy Testimony:::::::::::::    FS:  She said that the hijacker was the first person she served. She said he was sitting in Row #18, the last row of seats on the plane. She said the hijacker sat in the middle seat of three seats on the right-hand side of the plane, in the last row of seats on the plane. 

TM:  Shortly after takeoff from Portland en route to Seattle, in the afternoon hours of November 24, 1971, a male passenger on the flight who was seated in 18-E …
When she received the bag containing the money on the ground) She took the bag containing the money back to seat 18-E where the hijacker was seated.

Mucklow states that at takeoff from Seattle the hijacker was in seat 18-D or 18-E, occupying both seats at various times, and she was seated across the aisle in 18-C. Mucklow states that at takeoff the hijacker was using several seats and was occupied with opening one of the parachutes and attempting to pack the money in the parachute container and…
 
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« Reply #6122 on: February 25, 2021, 04:22:10 PM »
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That comic book of Dan Cooper, printed only in French...

If I remember this right, I think Flyjack showed a while back at DZ that the comic book was also published in Spanish.
 

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« Reply #6123 on: February 25, 2021, 05:05:14 PM »
As per earlier post concerning bourbon and soda.... Did he actually ask specifically for a bourbon and soda? My dad used to enjoy a drink called a "seven and seven". It was whiskey and seven up (seven up is a soda pop). I  believe he liked his made with Canadian Mist whiskey although it could be made with any kind of whiskey. It  was a fairly popular drink if I  remember correctly. Not sure if this is the same as bourbon and soda?   If he actually asked for a "bourbon and soda" might that indicate a "higher end drinker" ?

 

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« Reply #6124 on: February 25, 2021, 06:17:13 PM »
Seven and Seven was a popular drink back in the 70's. my father was in the soda business all his life. he worked for 7up while in Ohio and then worked for Canada dry/Royal Crown down here in Florida. back in the early 70's I sold 7up at the Ohio State stadium. got to go to every home game. it was just as popular as Coke was since it was used for mixing. typically, you would see Seagram 7 bottles all over the stadium. after everyone left we would walk the levels looking for money, unopened booze and programs..never found much money...
 

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« Reply #6125 on: February 25, 2021, 06:54:49 PM »
You're right Shutter. I forgot about Seagram 7. Dad also drank plenty of that. I  remember sneaking drinks of that when dad wasn't looking. He used to also drink Blatz(sp.?) beer. (Yuk) Dad drank Blatz cause it was cheap. Was Cooper's drink made with soda water or soda pop?


 

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« Reply #6126 on: February 25, 2021, 07:13:31 PM »
That brings back memories..my dad drank the hell out of Blatz...every weekend he go into town at the drive thru liquor store and get a case of that...another one was Strohs or Black Label and Rolling Rock..
 

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« Reply #6127 on: February 25, 2021, 07:27:27 PM »
I think my buddy's dad drank Black Label. That stuff was pretty hard-core if I  remember right. Back in my drinking days I drank a lot of Stroh's beer. It used to be brewed in Detroit I think. I remember them saying it was the Detroit River water that gave it it's taste. Later on I think the brewery moved to Colorado. A lot of people used to say it would give ya the scoots.(shits) It never bothered me but I didn't have to worry about friends stealing my beer. Definitely brings back memories!
 

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« Reply #6128 on: February 25, 2021, 07:33:28 PM »
They were all pretty bad from what I remember...we would sneak one out and go across the street to my buddies house and drink the beer in his older brothers black 57 Chevy that sat for years in the yard..the good old days..
 

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« Reply #6129 on: February 25, 2021, 08:18:15 PM »
Looks like Flyjack has been following our communications over on dz. He says the Dan Cooper comics were published in 16 different languages. How many years were they published? He also makes the statement that bourbon was very popular in the 1970's. He states it wasn't rare or exclusive. I wasn't insinuating that it was rare or exclusive. Rather I was thinking the language was somewhat odd. I used to accompany my dad to the American Legion Post (local drinking establishment) quite frequently when I was young.I don't ever remember anyone asking the bartender for a "bourbon and soda". Most would ask for a seven and seven or Jack and coke or Crown and coke (or Pepsi). Just wondering if asking for a "bourbon and soda" might be indicative of a regional dialect?      I still wish Fly would rejoin us on this forum.
 

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« Reply #6130 on: February 25, 2021, 09:19:03 PM »
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As per earlier post concerning bourbon and soda.... Did he actually ask specifically for a bourbon and soda? My dad used to enjoy a drink called a "seven and seven". It was whiskey and seven up (seven up is a soda pop). I  believe he liked his made with Canadian Mist whiskey although it could be made with any kind of whiskey. It  was a fairly popular drink if I  remember correctly. Not sure if this is the same as bourbon and soda?   If he actually asked for a "bourbon and soda" might that indicate a "higher end drinker" ?

There are 302s that mention 7 Up. Bourbon and 7 Up.
 
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« Reply #6131 on: February 25, 2021, 09:50:19 PM »
It's hard to say reading the term. Bourbon and 7up is never used here or north. bourbon and soda isn't either. soda is to the south, pop to the north and west can be soda pop. everyone knew seven and seven. Georger, Bruce, Eric, R99 etc. do you guys use the term bourbon and soda/7up ?
 
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« Reply #6132 on: February 25, 2021, 10:21:33 PM »
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  And I am just wondering, every show I watch has our old boy in seat 18C.  Why is that disputed? 


I think most shows until recently put DBC in 18C because that is where Ralph Himmelsbach puts DBC. How he got that piece of information is a mystery to me.

It's disputed by the people who WERE in 18C, namely, Bill Mitchell's text books. Bill himself was sitting in 18B and his parka was in 18A.

Lastly, Tina sat in 18C for takeoff to Mexico, while Danny was in 18D.
 

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« Reply #6133 on: February 25, 2021, 10:26:06 PM »
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It's hard to say reading the term. Bourbon and 7up is never used here or north. bourbon and soda isn't either. soda is to the south, pop to the north and west can be soda pop. everyone knew seven and seven. Georger, Bruce, Eric, R99 etc. do you guys use the term bourbon and soda/7up ?

I gave up booze this past summer due to acid-reflux. Since I rarely mixed my hard stuff, I never "said" anything. Besides, I'm cool, so I only referred to the labels, such as: "I'm drinking Maker's Mark," or "Evan Walker." If I've already had a couple of them, though, I might say "Anejo," when I switch to Tequila.

Note: Judging from what I hear on my Country stations, the millennials of our country are one-upping me by simply saying, "Jack," or "Crown."
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« Reply #6134 on: February 25, 2021, 10:30:30 PM »
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That brings back memories.. Rolling Rock..

Now, we're talkin', Shut. Best cheap beer EVER!