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Offline Shutter

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6015 on: February 02, 2021, 02:08:32 PM »
A passenger made a similar description adding American Indian as well if not mistaken. with nothing obvious in appearance to change things the pool for Cooper is huge. narrowing it down can be hard. no facial features out of the norm, no limp, nothing to separate him from others. even looking at passengers boarding planes in old photo's has a bunch of Coopers getting on the plane. he was everywhere...
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6016 on: February 02, 2021, 02:41:50 PM »
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Dfs: You had some luck contacting some passengers.  Did you ever try to contact Alice Hancock?

Yes, I did contact two surviving passengers. Both replied politely: one could no longer remember the events, and the other had never seen the hijacker.

I would be happy to write to Ms Hancock if anyone can confirm her city of residence; I suppose that I could find her address through the White Pages or similar sites.
 
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6017 on: February 02, 2021, 03:35:35 PM »
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A passenger made a similar description adding American Indian as well if not mistaken. with nothing obvious in appearance to change things the pool for Cooper is huge. narrowing it down can be hard. no facial features out of the norm, no limp, nothing to separate him from others. even looking at passengers boarding planes in old photo's has a bunch of Coopers getting on the plane. he was everywhere...

I have no idea what passenger might have said American Indian but ... FBI 302s include that option many times. 
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6018 on: February 02, 2021, 03:44:29 PM »
FLYJACK says: " I always assumed Cooper "possibly from the midwest" claim came from the "no discernible accent" but it may be from his language... not the lack of accent."

Maybe it was both!? Why one vs the other, or another, .........   :-\

All human speech is spatially bound/identifiable by region/locality/dialect/local dialect.... Animal calls likewise! Whale calls! Fish bubbles!! Frog croaks.... insect sounds...

How crazy and obtuse will this get?  :rofl:  And its only Tuesday.  Unless the boat hits an iceberg.  :rofl:

Cooper replied to Tina: "‘Minneapolis, Minnesota is very nice country". Cooper got mad when Tina asked him where he was from, but has Cooper just told us where he has 'been'? Is Cooper a frequent flier? He knows where Tacoma is. He now tells us where Minneapolis is. Hmmmmmmmm .... 
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6019 on: February 02, 2021, 04:56:55 PM »
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Dfs: You had some luck contacting some passengers.  Did you ever try to contact Alice Hancock?

Yes, I did contact two surviving passengers. Both replied politely: one could no longer remember the events, and the other had never seen the hijacker.

I would be happy to write to Ms Hancock if anyone can confirm her city of residence; I suppose that I could find her address through the White Pages or similar sites.

So what are you waiting for? Email me!
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« Reply #6020 on: February 02, 2021, 05:14:46 PM »
Certain area's of the midwest have different accents. same for the south. people in Ohio speak entirely different from those in Kentucky. Alamaba vs Mississippi. the list goes on and on. some people "wash" there clothes while others "warsh" them. New Yorkers tend to put an ER in place of an A. slice of "pizzer" or Idea is replaced with  "Idear" then things with an ending of ER are replaced with an A  :rofl: let me call my "motha" Minnesota has an accent different from others. you can hear the accent in Vicky Wilson's voice. you need to dig deep to try and find his accent. some do not have one at all and can be from anywhere..
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« Reply #6021 on: February 02, 2021, 05:17:12 PM »
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Dfs: You had some luck contacting some passengers.  Did you ever try to contact Alice Hancock?

Yes, I did contact two surviving passengers. Both replied politely: one could no longer remember the events, and the other had never seen the hijacker.

I would be happy to write to Ms Hancock if anyone can confirm her city of residence; I suppose that I could find her address through the White Pages or similar sites.

So what are you waiting for? Email me!

If contact can be made I can set up a thread for the sole reason of questions....
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6022 on: February 02, 2021, 05:25:27 PM »
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Certain area's of the midwest have different accents. same for the south. people in Ohio speak entirely different from those in Kentucky. Alamaba vs Mississippi. the list goes on and on. some people "wash" there clothes while others "warsh" them. New Yorkers tend to put an ER in place of an A. slice of "pizzer" or Idea is replaced with  "Idear" then things with an ending of ER are replaced with an A  :rofl: let me call my "motha" Minnesota has an accent different from others. you can hear the accent in Vicky Wilson's voice. you need to dig deep to try and find his accent. some do not have one at all and can be from anywhere..

On the language part, if you ever hear some fellow say "I am going to take a hair cut", you instantly know that he is from the Bronx, NY.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6023 on: February 02, 2021, 05:36:49 PM »
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Certain area's of the midwest have different accents. same for the south. people in Ohio speak entirely different from those in Kentucky. Alamaba vs Mississippi. the list goes on and on. some people "wash" there clothes while others "warsh" them. New Yorkers tend to put an ER in place of an A. slice of "pizzer" or Idea is replaced with  "Idear" then things with an ending of ER are replaced with an A  :rofl: let me call my "motha" Minnesota has an accent different from others. you can hear the accent in Vicky Wilson's voice. you need to dig deep to try and find his accent. some do not have one at all and can be from anywhere..

On the language part, if you ever hear some fellow say "I am going to take a hair cut", you instantly know that he is from the Bronx, NY.

That's a good one..old timers in Miami pronounce it with an A at the end or Miam-A. same for Ohio..O-HIGH-A ...OR uh
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6024 on: February 02, 2021, 05:43:07 PM »
Gregory makes the statement of American Indian..

Caucasian, believed to be of Mexican-American decent with possibly some American Indian blood..

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« Reply #6025 on: February 02, 2021, 05:45:09 PM »
My buddy from Montreal would ask you to "pass him $5" instead of loan me $5..a Flamingo would be a "Flaming-go"
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6026 on: February 03, 2021, 05:09:58 AM »
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Certain area's of the midwest have different accents. same for the south. people in Ohio speak entirely different from those in Kentucky. Alamaba vs Mississippi. the list goes on and on. some people "wash" there clothes while others "warsh" them. New Yorkers tend to put an ER in place of an A. slice of "pizzer" or Idea is replaced with  "Idear" then things with an ending of ER are replaced with an A  :rofl: let me call my "motha" Minnesota has an accent different from others. you can hear the accent in Vicky Wilson's voice. you need to dig deep to try and find his accent. some do not have one at all and can be from anywhere..

Well, ethno-linguistics and dialetology are far more sophisticated than that. They solved the Una Bomber case, for one.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6027 on: February 03, 2021, 06:32:29 AM »
Agreed, but you can also be from some of those area's and not have the same accent. if Cooper's voice was recorded it could be helpful to someone in that field for sure..the midwest covers a huge area and many different accents.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6028 on: February 03, 2021, 06:53:44 AM »
Some of you have spoken with me. can you tell where I'm from. I listen to my voice and don't really pickup any accent but some tell me I have one. I've lived in the south more than half my life and don't usually use the term "y'all" or have any kind of "southern draw" that I can detect. Georger, you have spoken to me several times..some ask me where I'm from and say "I thought so" and some say "oh, okay"
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #6029 on: February 03, 2021, 09:37:42 AM »
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if Cooper's voice was recorded it could be helpful to someone in that field

For what it's worth ... NW305 had a cockpit voice recorder (which had been mandatory on US turbojet-powered airliners since 1966). At that time, CVRs were only required to retain 30 minutes of audio. If the CVR was removed at Reno, NW305 might have retained audio of part of the segment from Red Bluff CA to Reno. If not, the tape would have been over-written on the next flight.

Nothing in the FBI Vault on this.
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