Poll

Do you believe Cooper lived or died. the option are below to cast a vote...

0% Cooper lived
6 (9.5%)
25% Cooper lived
4 (6.3%)
35% Cooper lived.
2 (3.2%)
50% Cooper lived
14 (22.2%)
75% Cooper lived
14 (22.2%)
100 Cooper lived
23 (36.5%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Author Topic: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case  (Read 1402205 times)

Offline Shutter

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9300
  • Thanked: 1024 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5100 on: November 09, 2019, 08:01:24 PM »
How durable is the decal. does it appear to be easy to tear?
 

Offline Shutter

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9300
  • Thanked: 1024 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5101 on: November 09, 2019, 08:04:43 PM »
Reading one of Hominids old emails he explains that the emergency system was removed on almost all of the planes around the sametime the Cooper vein was installed. might be a good reason no placards can be found....

Thinking about that doesn't make sense. the yap accident was in the 80's past the Cooper vein installment?
« Last Edit: November 09, 2019, 08:06:13 PM by Shutter »
 

Offline EU

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1759
  • Thanked: 322 times
    • ERIC ULIS: From the History Channel
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5102 on: November 09, 2019, 08:32:32 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
How durable is the decal. does it appear to be easy to tear?

It appears to me that it would tear quite easily given the environment...hot, cold, sleet, hail, de-icing fluids, high wind speeds, etc.
Some men see things as they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

RFK
 
The following users thanked this post: Shutter

Offline Shutter

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9300
  • Thanked: 1024 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5103 on: November 09, 2019, 10:38:58 PM »
Quote
Nonetheless, Boeing verified this placard described the use of the emergency airstair release behind the two-hole door/panel.

Did they specifically say this and was this in a email?
 

Offline EU

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1759
  • Thanked: 322 times
    • ERIC ULIS: From the History Channel
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5104 on: November 09, 2019, 10:52:52 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Quote
Nonetheless, Boeing verified this placard described the use of the emergency airstair release behind the two-hole door/panel.

Did they specifically say this and was this in a email?

Both voicemail and email.
Some men see things as they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

RFK
 

Offline Bruce A. Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4365
  • Thanked: 465 times
    • The Mountain News
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5105 on: November 10, 2019, 04:06:28 AM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The money showed up with a seal on it. that tells me it had enough room to put the seal on the bag making it tamper proof. Cooper was upset about the knapsack. you are implying he never said a word about it not being big enough. that's a double " no funny stuff" thingy. then they gave him a dummy chute that he allowed and had no problem with the D rings missing. that's a shit load of no funny stuff...

The bank bag had a seal on it? Passenger Jack Almstad told me he saw bundles of twenties sticking out of the top when Tina carried it past him in the aisle.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2019, 04:06:40 AM by Bruce A. Smith »
 

Offline georger

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3182
  • Thanked: 467 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5106 on: November 10, 2019, 04:53:11 AM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The money showed up with a seal on it. that tells me it had enough room to put the seal on the bag making it tamper proof. Cooper was upset about the knapsack. you are implying he never said a word about it not being big enough. that's a double " no funny stuff" thingy. then they gave him a dummy chute that he allowed and had no problem with the D rings missing. that's a shit load of no funny stuff...

Thats interesting if true...
The bank bag had a seal on it? Passenger Jack Almstad told me he saw bundles of twenties sticking out of the top when Tina carried it past him in the aisle.
 

Offline EU

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1759
  • Thanked: 322 times
    • ERIC ULIS: From the History Channel
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5107 on: November 10, 2019, 09:40:05 AM »
If my memory serves me right, the money showed up with a "seal" on it--whatever form it took--and was broken by Al Lee or some FBI authority at SeaTac once it arrived, but before it was transferred to Tina.
Some men see things as they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

RFK
 

Offline Shutter

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9300
  • Thanked: 1024 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5108 on: November 10, 2019, 10:10:28 AM »
It's a safeguard to insure the bag is not tampered with in transit from one location to another. the same is done when collecting evidence into a bag it's sealed shut at the top.
 

Offline Shutter

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9300
  • Thanked: 1024 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5109 on: November 10, 2019, 10:53:11 AM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The money showed up with a seal on it. that tells me it had enough room to put the seal on the bag making it tamper proof. Cooper was upset about the knapsack. you are implying he never said a word about it not being big enough. that's a double " no funny stuff" thingy. then they gave him a dummy chute that he allowed and had no problem with the D rings missing. that's a shit load of no funny stuff...

The bank bag had a seal on it? Passenger Jack Almstad told me he saw bundles of twenties sticking out of the top when Tina carried it past him in the aisle.

That's funny. the actual witness to the money (Tina) couldn't recall the denomination after Cooper OPENED the bag and others only recall a white bag?

Tina also states dragging the money bag down the isle. this would support adequate space to handle the money. if Almstad was correct money would of fell out of the bag while Tina was dragging it...she also states seeing Cooper wrap the cord around the neck of the bag which would be what Tina used to drag the money (neck of the bag)
« Last Edit: November 10, 2019, 11:29:05 AM by Shutter »
 

Offline georger

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3182
  • Thanked: 467 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5110 on: November 10, 2019, 02:12:04 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
It's a safeguard to insure the bag is not tampered with in transit from one location to another. the same is done when collecting evidence into a bag it's sealed shut at the top.

standard practice. very likely somebody had to sign for it when it arrived at SEATAC.   
 

Offline EU

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1759
  • Thanked: 322 times
    • ERIC ULIS: From the History Channel
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5111 on: November 10, 2019, 05:30:33 PM »
I really wish we had some pictures of the currency and bank bag. I'm not sure if any exist.

Also, I don't really recall many pictures being released as part of the FOIA dump. Some map pics is about it. Nothing from Reno or anywhere else that I've noticed. Why? Will there ever be any pics released?
Some men see things as they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

RFK
 

Offline Shutter

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9300
  • Thanked: 1024 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5112 on: November 10, 2019, 05:43:45 PM »
I don't think there is any. Carr posted a picture on the DZ of what it looked like. it does show the difference in investigating prior to what they do today...if they do have one the odds are it will be redacted in the file.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2019, 05:44:12 PM by Shutter »
 

Offline EU

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1759
  • Thanked: 322 times
    • ERIC ULIS: From the History Channel
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5113 on: November 10, 2019, 06:16:53 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I don't think there is any. Carr posted a picture on the DZ of what it looked like. it does show the difference in investigating prior to what they do today...if they do have one the odds are it will be redacted in the file.

Any idea where the pic is?
Some men see things as they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

RFK
 

Offline Shutter

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9300
  • Thanked: 1024 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5114 on: November 10, 2019, 06:21:09 PM »
The one he showed as an example?