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Do you believe Cooper lived or died. the option are below to cast a vote...

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50% Cooper lived
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75% Cooper lived
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Author Topic: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case  (Read 1431494 times)

Offline Bruce A. Smith

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #180 on: September 07, 2014, 08:12:57 PM »
Fascinating stuff, Shut.  Thanks.

$250,000 and transferred from the SeaFirst Bank bag into a crew bag?  Wow. And Jack Almstad told me he saw the bank bag bulging like it was filled with bricks or stacks of money!
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #181 on: September 07, 2014, 08:23:38 PM »
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Fascinating stuff, Shut.  Thanks.

$250,000 and transferred from the SeaFirst Bank bag into a crew bag?  Wow. And Jack Almstad told me he saw the bank bag bulging like it was filled with bricks or stacks of money!

More questions than answers with that guy  8)

Gotta another audio file on the stove. should be done in about a half hour.....
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #182 on: September 07, 2014, 09:22:28 PM »
audio recording and transcript of interview with "BJ" Hickey, Cherry Weaver and Fran Devoll, retired personnel from Northwest Airlines discussing the hijacking of Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 305 by Dan Cooper (aka DB Cooper) on November 24, 1971. Interview also discusses security history of the airlines in general, from the 1960s to after 2011.

 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #183 on: September 07, 2014, 09:27:21 PM »
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Fascinating stuff, Shut.  Thanks.

$250,000 and transferred from the SeaFirst Bank bag into a crew bag?  Wow. And Jack Almstad told me he saw the bank bag bulging like it was filled with bricks or stacks of money!

More questions than answers with that guy  8)

Gotta another audio file on the stove. should be done in about a half hour.....

Interesting thing is this guy doesn't just claim to be a witness,  he claims to be involved in part of the process.  Certainly if his transferring of the money were true, the FBI would corroborate it.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #184 on: September 07, 2014, 09:32:46 PM »
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Fascinating stuff, Shut.  Thanks.

$250,000 and transferred from the SeaFirst Bank bag into a crew bag?  Wow. And Jack Almstad told me he saw the bank bag bulging like it was filled with bricks or stacks of money!

More questions than answers with that guy  8)

Gotta another audio file on the stove. should be done in about a half hour.....

Interesting thing is this guy doesn't just claim to be a witness,  he claims to be involved in part of the process.  Certainly if his transferring of the money were true, the FBI would corroborate it.


Possible member of the Knoss family  ;D :D :)
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #185 on: September 08, 2014, 12:11:29 AM »
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audio recording and transcript of interview with "BJ" Hickey, Cherry Weaver and Fran Devoll, retired personnel from Northwest Airlines discussing the hijacking of Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 305 by Dan Cooper (aka DB Cooper) on November 24, 1971. Interview also discusses security history of the airlines in general, from the 1960s to after 2011.



adds perspective. At least from their perspective NWA wasn't the worker's "hell hole" Blevins (KC?) has pushed as part of Kenny's justification for hijacking a plane?
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #186 on: September 08, 2014, 12:18:32 AM »
Agreed, these are some of the people we should contact for info in regards to the strikes, pay scale etc. seems she seen the chutes as well.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #187 on: September 13, 2014, 10:56:19 AM »
1. FOLLOWING IS FULL TEXT OF PRESS RELEASE ON THIS SUBJECT
ISSUED IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA ON MAY 8: QUOTE:
" THE MONEY PAID IN CONNECTION WITH THE HIJACKING OF AN
EASTERN AIRLINES FLIGHT IN MAY OF 1972 HAS BEEN RECOVERED
AFTER AN EXTENSIVE AND EXHAUSTIVE JOINT INVESTIGATION BY
THE FBI AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
( FDLE).
" WILLIAM M. ALEXANDER, SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE OF THE
UNCLASSIFIED

WILLIAM L. REED OF THE FDLE, IN A JOINT RELEASE TODAY,
ANNOUNCED THAT THE DOLS 303,000 WHICH HAD BEEN PAID TO
FREDERICK WILLIAM HAHNEMAN ON MAY 5, L972, AT DULLES
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, CHANTILLY, VIRGINIA, IN CONNECTION
WITH THE HIJACKING OF EASTERN AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 FROM
ALLENTOWN, PENNSYLVANIA, TO MIAMI, FLORIDA, HAS BEEN
RECOVERED BY AGENTS OF THE FDLE AND THE JACKSONVILLE OFFICE
OF THE FBI.
" UPON RECOVERY OF THE MONEY, A CHECK WAS MADE OF THE
NATIONAL CRIME INFORMATION CENTER, FBI HEADQUARTERS,
WASHINGTON, D. C., WHICH DETERMINED THE SERIAL NUMBERS
TALLIED WITH THE RANSOM MONEY PAID IN CONNECTION WITH THE
HIJACKING.
" ON MAY 5, 1972, EASTERN AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 WAS
HIJACKED BY A LONE ARMED GUNMAN WHO DEMANDED AND RECEIVED
DOLS 303,000, PARACHUTES, JUMP SUITS, HELMETS, KNIVES, AND
2,000 BENSON AND HEDGES CIGARETTES. AFTER THE MONEY AND
EQUIPMENT HAD BEEN PLACED ABOARD THE AIRCRAFT, THE
HIJACKER PERMITTED THE PASSENGERS AND ONE STEWARDESS TO
DEPLANE. THE AIRCRAFT BEARING SIX CREW MEMBERS AND THE
HIJACKER THEN TOOK OFF AND LANDED AT NEW ORLEANS,
LOUISIANA, WHERE THE HIJACKER AND SIX CREW MEMBERS BOARDED
ANOTHER AIRCRAFT. DURING THE EARLY MORNING OF MAY 6, 1972,
OVER THE JUNGLES NEAR A SMALL TOWN OF YORO, HONDURAS, THE
HIJACKER BAILED OUT THROUGH THE LOWERED REAR DOOR.
" THE HIJACKER WAS LATER IDENTIFIED AS FREDERICK WILLIAM
HAHNEMAN, A 49- YEAR- OLD EASTON, PENNSYLVANIA, MAN. ON
JUNE 3, 1972, HAHNEMAN SURRENDERED TO AUTHORITIES AT THE
AMERICAN EMBASSY IN HONDURAS AND HE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY
RETURNED TO THE UNITED STATES. ON SEPTEMBER 29, 1972,
HAHNEMAN WAS SENTENCED IN U. S. DISTRICT COURT, ALEXANDRIA,
VIRGINIA, TO LIFE IMPRISONMENT.
" ALEXANDER AND REED STATED THAT THE MONEY WAS BEING TURNED
OVER TO EASTERN AIRLINES OFFICIALS.
" THE FBI SAID THIS RECOVERY SHOWS THAT HIJACKING AN
UNCLASSIFIED


PAGE 03 STATE 088847
AIRPLANE FOR EXTORTIONATE DEMANDS IS NOT VERY PROFITABLE.
SINCE JUNE 4, 1970, THERE HAVE BEEN 27 HIJACKINGS WHEREIN
THE HIJACKERS' EXTORTIONATE DEMANDS AMOUNTED TO DOLS
121,944,100 OF WHICH DOLS 6,656,250 WAS ACTUALLY PAID.
OF THE RANSOM DEMANDS PAID, ONLY DOLS 2,200, OOO REMAINS
OUTSTANDING, DOLS 2,000,000 OF WHICH IS PRESENTLY IN
LITIGATION IN CONNECTION WITH THE NOVEMBER 10, 1972,

HIJACKING OF A SOUTHERN AIRWAYS FLIGHT. THE REMAINING
DOLS 200,000 WAS PAID TO A STILL UNIDENTIFIED HIJACKER
KNOWN ONLY AS D. B. COOPER WHO HIJACKED A PLANE ON
THANKSGIVING EVE, 1971, AND BAILED OUT SOMEWHERE OVER THE
STATES OF WASHINGTON OR OREGON. THE DOLS 200,000 PAID TO
D. B. COOPER IS THE ONLY MONEY UNACCOUNTED FOR." UNQTE
2. LEGATT MANAGUA WILL PROVIDE FURTHER DETAILS. ROGERS
UNCLASSIFIED

 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #188 on: September 13, 2014, 04:22:16 PM »
The info on Hahneman is excellent.

What year was the money recovered?
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #189 on: September 13, 2014, 04:58:55 PM »
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The info on Hahneman is excellent.

What year was the money recovered?


   There was a rash of airplane hijackings occurring around the world, between 1967 and 1972. On May 5, 1972, an Eastern Airlines 727 jet was hijacked at A-B-E Airport. This, the only hijacking in the history of the airport, occurred when Frederick W. Hahneman, boarded the jet and threatened the crew with a gun. The jet was scheduled to fly to Washington D.C. then on to Miami, Florida. Hahneman, a 49-year-old engineer from Easton, demanded $303,000 in large bills and six parachutes. He ordered the plane to land at Dulles International Airport where he received the ransom on board the plane. He then released everyone except the crew. The plane made a stop in New Orleans for repairs then flew over Honduras where Hahneman jumped from the plane with the briefcase full of cash. On June 2nd Hahneman turned himself in to the U.S. Embassy in Honduras. He pled guilty to the charges of air piracy and served 12 years in prison. The F.B.I. found all of the $303,000 but would not give any details about their investigation.


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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #190 on: September 13, 2014, 05:14:06 PM »
This photo possibly shows the money could be in the bag behind him carried by an agent coming down the stairs of the plane. guy looks like Duane Weber  ;D :D 8)
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #191 on: September 13, 2014, 05:38:26 PM »
A-b-e Hijacker Who Parachuted Into Jungle Is Free From Prison Air Piracy


June 30, 1985|by FRANK WHELAN, Sunday Call-Chronicle
The staff at the Americus Hotel didn't trust George Ames.

When he checked into the Allentown hotel on May 2, 1972, thewell-dressed businessman from New York seemed pleasant enough. Night clerk Jane Slough recalled him as "nice, very polite." But another night clerk, Dorothy Miller, soon grew suspicious. "He always seemed to have a preoccupied air," she was to tell The Morning Call later. "You couldn't get close to him for some reason. He seemed to put a wall up around him right away."

The rest can be found here.

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"For the crew of Flight 175, the ordeal ended May 6 at about 4 a.m. over the jungles of Honduras. The hijacker ordered the pilot to slow the plane down. Clutching his currency-filled attache case, Hahneman jumped out the plane's back door into the dense undergrowth."

The composite is pretty damn good if you ask me (see photo)
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #192 on: September 13, 2014, 09:48:46 PM »
My understanding is that Hahneman did not have the cash on him when he turned himself into the American Embassy in Tegucigalpa.  Freddie turned himself in about a month after the skyjacking, as I understand the story.

Now the Jacksonville, FLA feddies have Freddie's cash?  Hmmm.  How did that happen?

I'd love to know how he landed in the jungle, how the ground search was conducted, and how he got away.  Plus, what did he do for a month, and then why did he turn himself in?

I wonder where he is now.

I have a fondness for this story in part because I went to school in Bethlehem (The B part of ABE Airport) for two years.
 

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« Reply #193 on: September 13, 2014, 09:50:57 PM »
If I have the right guy, he is dead. died in 1991.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #194 on: September 19, 2014, 04:59:12 AM »
Any info/insights regarding the possibility of whether the FBI or any sleuths ever looked into customers who attended skydiving schools prior to the hijacking? I recall having read very vague info regarding the FBI investigating skydiving schools in some way or another but it was too vague for me to make any determination on whether the FBI actually attempted to gather names of individuals who took lessons from skydiving schools. While I wouldn't expect Cooper to have used his real name as a customer I wouldn't rule out an alias being able to be connected to a suspect.

Related to that: anyone have any info/insights as to whether the FBI/sleuths ever talked to operators of skydiving schools to ask them if they recognized the Cooper sketch, or if any customers seemed strange, etc.
Any and all thoughts very much appreciated.