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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #120 on: May 25, 2014, 04:15:11 AM »
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #121 on: June 07, 2014, 09:16:13 PM »
Has anyone read this story before?

Augusto Lakandula: The Guy Who Hijacked Philippine Airlines And Escaped Using A Homemade Parachute.

A Filipino named Augusto Lakandula (later identified as Reginald Chua), hijacked a  Philippine Airlines jet on May 25, 2000. After collecting the passengers’ money and other valuables, the suspect, who appeared to be deranged, jumped at 6,000 feet from the plane’s rear door using a homemade parachute.

Did he survive his dramatic escape or mysteriously vanished like ‘D.B. Cooper’, the infamous skyjacker?

Read on to find out.

On May 25, 2000, Philippine Airlines Flight 812 was en route from Francisco Bangoy International Airport in Davao City to Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Manila, carrying a total of 278 passengers and 13 crew members on board.

A few moments after the plane took off, a man wearing a blue ski mask and swimming goggles declared hijacking. Apparently prepared to commit his crime, the man was also carrying ropes, a gun and a hand grenade.

During the incident, the man fired a shot into the aircraft bulkhead, forcing the pilots to let him into the cockpit. Carlos Neri, the plane’s co-pilot, described the hijacker as a deranged man who lamented that his family left him while his wife had an affair with a policeman.

The hijacker, first identified as “Augusto Lakandula” based on his plane ticket, demanded all passengers to place all their belongings in a bag. He also asked the pilot to have the plane diverted and return to Davao, but the pilot refused to do so due to insufficient fuel left.

Hijacking gone wrong

After his initial request was denied, the hijacker commanded the pilot to descend and depressurize the airplane so the door could be opened, allowing him to escape using a makeshift parachute.

Just before his dramatic exit, the hijacker asked the crew to show him how to jump using a nylon parachute he brought with him. Seeing that the parachute apparently had no rip cord, one of the pilots took a curtain sash and attached it to the homemade parachute.

The hijacker finally jumped at 6,000 feet from the plane’s left rear door while the aircraft was circling 13 miles from Manila. A flight attendant pushed him out of the door so he could escape against the strong force of the air. He reportedly separated from the parachute in midair and plunged to his death somewhere on a mountain in Real, Quezon.


With it’s rear door still opened, the plane finally landed at Ninoy
Aquino International Airport. All passengers and crew members
arrived safe

The body of Augusto Lakandula, later identified by his family members as Reginald Chua, was recovered about 40 miles east of Manila by local officials in Real, Quezon.

The hijacker’s body was nearly buried in mud and his belt bag containing cash and jewelry was reportedly missing. The remains of his homemade parachute was recovered about a kilometer away from where his body was found.

In an interview with the Radio Mindanao Network, Chua’s brother said that the hijacker actually had dreamed of becoming a skydiver and even collected books on skydiving. Unfortunately, he never had the chance to jump from an actual plane before the fateful event, which may explain why the hijacking ended up an epic failure.


Added:several things come to mind when reading this. I realize the guy was not firing on all cylinders, but I noticed everything came off him soon after he jumped. this is the second hijacking involving a parachute attempt where items came off. he obviously thought he had enough information by reading books. so, once again I believe Cooper may not of had the skill he thought he did, or the skill people believe he had.


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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #122 on: June 07, 2014, 11:57:48 PM »
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Has anyone read this story before?

Augusto Lakandula: The Guy Who Hijacked Philippine Airlines And Escaped Using A Homemade Parachute.

A Filipino named Augusto Lakandula (later identified as Reginald Chua), hijacked a  Philippine Airlines jet on May 25, 2000. After collecting the passengers’ money and other valuables, the suspect, who appeared to be deranged, jumped at 6,000 feet from the plane’s rear door using a homemade parachute.

Did he survive his dramatic escape or mysteriously vanished like ‘D.B. Cooper’, the infamous skyjacker?

Read on to find out.

On May 25, 2000, Philippine Airlines Flight 812 was en route from Francisco Bangoy International Airport in Davao City to Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Manila, carrying a total of 278 passengers and 13 crew members on board.

A few moments after the plane took off, a man wearing a blue ski mask and swimming goggles declared hijacking. Apparently prepared to commit his crime, the man was also carrying ropes, a gun and a hand grenade.

During the incident, the man fired a shot into the aircraft bulkhead, forcing the pilots to let him into the cockpit. Carlos Neri, the plane’s co-pilot, described the hijacker as a deranged man who lamented that his family left him while his wife had an affair with a policeman.

The hijacker, first identified as “Augusto Lakandula” based on his plane ticket, demanded all passengers to place all their belongings in a bag. He also asked the pilot to have the plane diverted and return to Davao, but the pilot refused to do so due to insufficient fuel left.

Hijacking gone wrong

After his initial request was denied, the hijacker commanded the pilot to descend and depressurize the airplane so the door could be opened, allowing him to escape using a makeshift parachute.

Just before his dramatic exit, the hijacker asked the crew to show him how to jump using a nylon parachute he brought with him. Seeing that the parachute apparently had no rip cord, one of the pilots took a curtain sash and attached it to the homemade parachute.

The hijacker finally jumped at 6,000 feet from the plane’s left rear door while the aircraft was circling 13 miles from Manila. A flight attendant pushed him out of the door so he could escape against the strong force of the air. He reportedly separated from the parachute in midair and plunged to his death somewhere on a mountain in Real, Quezon.


With it’s rear door still opened, the plane finally landed at Ninoy
Aquino International Airport. All passengers and crew members
arrived safe

The body of Augusto Lakandula, later identified by his family members as Reginald Chua, was recovered about 40 miles east of Manila by local officials in Real, Quezon.

The hijacker’s body was nearly buried in mud and his belt bag containing cash and jewelry was reportedly missing. The remains of his homemade parachute was recovered about a kilometer away from where his body was found.

In an interview with the Radio Mindanao Network, Chua’s brother said that the hijacker actually had dreamed of becoming a skydiver and even collected books on skydiving. Unfortunately, he never had the chance to jump from an actual plane before the fateful event, which may explain why the hijacking ended up an epic failure.


Added:several things come to mind when reading this. I realize the guy was not firing on all cylinders, but I noticed everything came off him soon after he jumped. this is the second hijacking involving a parachute attempt where items came off. he obviously thought he had enough information by reading books. so, once again I believe Cooper may not of had the skill he thought he did, or the skill people believe he had.

I remember very well (beginning the very night of the hijacking): a number of people if not most thought what the
Washington hijacker had done was a 'stunt', ill-informed stunt. Maybe he had been a hippie trying to make a political point. Or an estranged Vietnam vet (recluse) 'trying to make a political point and get away with money'. Bailing out a jet no less! Over the wilderness of Washington, no less! Some nut! Definitely a nut but of what type and who! Except nobody was sure if the guy's corpse would ever be found - in the Washington wilderness!

Except Cooper's gear and his methods were far better than the Filipino's. Cooper may not have bailed over a wilderness area, unless you believe JT. And no manifesto or claims by some group and no certified letter or a body surfaced later. Nothing of record. And the FBI may be as confused as everyone else! ?     
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #123 on: June 08, 2014, 12:38:58 AM »
True about Cooper's methods & gear, but we have two separate hijackings similar to Cooper's, and they both lost there gear. one lost his pants in the jump. if Cooper didn't have enough experience with this type of jump, along with properly securing the gear. it probably separated from him. we have money on a river bank, a close proximity to the jump area. this could also be proof the money separated, or was still attached to him for a period of time undiscovered. I know this is not anything new, but a trend is appearing in the background.

who was the guy who jumped and made it safely to the ground, not McCoy. the one Farf brought up?
 

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« Reply #124 on: June 08, 2014, 04:00:03 PM »
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True about Cooper's methods & gear, but we have two separate hijackings similar to Cooper's, and they both lost there gear. one lost his pants in the jump. if Cooper didn't have enough experience with this type of jump, along with properly securing the gear. it probably separated from him. we have money on a river bank, a close proximity to the jump area. this could also be proof the money separated, or was still attached to him for a period of time undiscovered. I know this is not anything new, but a trend is appearing in the background.

who was the guy who jumped and made it safely to the ground, not McCoy. the one Farf brought up?

When did the money arrive on Tena Bar? '79, '74, earlier?  Palmer thought 1979. Kaye says Palmer got his strata wrong and the money was eroding out of earlier strata, but how much earlier? Tom says the money location is far removed from any 1974 dredge spoils, so strata earlier than 1974? No lab work to resolve any of this. Except if anything is true about Tena Bar, it's a highly volatile place with a very high erosion rate (constantly under replenishment by the Corps of Engineers, as photos of the place 1950-1980-cccc show). Strangely, Palmer does not say one word about EROSION at Tena Bar, a fact you would think would dominate in the discussion of strata. Tom raises some very important questions visi-a-vis Palmer. Lastly, the money is found near the surface just months after the worst drought in years followed by excessive rains and some flooding/high water so is it deposition or erosion from eroding subsurface strata? Found way down the beachfront in an obscure area just below the rise at the high point on the beach nestled or flanked by bushes and trees close by; not at the entry point to the beach up closer to water between Tena Bar and Catapillar island. It must have been a nightmare scenario for anyone looking for a simple solution!    (photo credit - Tom Kaye)
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #125 on: June 08, 2014, 05:04:02 PM »
with erosion deposits move. why would the money stay in it's original location? obviously the erosion is moving towards the waterline correct? how can anyone be certain the location was it's original resting place?
 

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« Reply #126 on: June 08, 2014, 05:48:02 PM »
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with erosion deposits move. why would the money stay in it's original location? obviously the erosion is moving towards the waterline correct? how can anyone be certain the location was it's original resting place?

Correct. Gravity and Water flow (pressure). Those are the two primary forces in play. But, are they the sole cause or just forces working on a third fact which isn't apparent? The location is consistent with a flow event, ie. movement. The condition of the money is consistent with long term flow erosion. Robt99 thinks he sees force impact on the bills from a direction. Are there pieces of serial numbers from other bills stuck to the outside of the top and bottom found bills which proves there was other money present in addition to the found bills? Did anyone bother to look for that? Ingram and others say they think other surface fragments found were simply decayed parts off the top of the Ingram bundles - did any of those fragments show parts of extra serial numbers? Tom and Carol says there is no evidence of 'fragments' found; just tiny pieces/grains in a plastic box! Fragments found at three feet? It's almost like reading tea leaves found in the County dump and trying to figure out where and who they came from!     
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« Reply #127 on: June 08, 2014, 06:10:52 PM »
I guess anything is possible. you would think if Cooper was a no pull, and the money stayed with him, or separated it would surely distort the bundles when it hit the surface. they could of stayed in this form for several years locking them into place. or the last known violent shift it had. it's enough to drive ya bonkers that's for sure......
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« Reply #128 on: June 08, 2014, 08:18:53 PM »
                                A photo from Farf some time back on DZ.....

 

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« Reply #129 on: June 08, 2014, 08:35:39 PM »
Ebay has a 28 page timetable starting June 1, 1971.....$13.99

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Ebay has a 28 page timetable starting June 1, 1971.....$13.99

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The late afternoon Portland to Seattle flight was a recent addition to NWA's schedule starting in August of 1971. Prior to that the flight didn't exist. Snowmman confirmed this and was able to find old schedules which showed the change.
 
 

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« Reply #131 on: June 28, 2014, 06:00:02 PM »
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Ive heard the name Forest Grubbs before but can't place it in this context.
 

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« Reply #133 on: June 29, 2014, 12:30:21 AM »
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Ive heard the name Forest Grubbs before but can't place it in this context.


He goes pretty far out on a limb talking about cover ups in the case...
 

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« Reply #134 on: July 04, 2014, 12:11:43 AM »
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He is among the conspiracy theorists.

Ive heard the name Forest Grubbs before but can't place it in this context.


He goes pretty far out on a limb talking about cover ups in the case...